haha i think you got it mixed up.  its the technine thug guys that have that look. both with skiers and snowboarders.  especially with the snowboarders they are always looking down, have hoods on and never smile when they actually do stop looking down, i dont get it.  there was this crew i saw all year with like the baggiest shit ever and they were always sooo pissed off looking, actually one of my friends knows one of the kids (not in a good way) and i guess he has tried to kill himself a couple times in the most pathetic ways. talk about hiding your emotions under your baggy clothes.
baggy's the new emo.
the holden and airblaster guys are always the happiest guys ever.