125 mpg car
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popNfresh44
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its probably a myth. they didnt have that kind of technology back then, and even if he did discover it, why would he sell it to an OIL company?
Shpadoinkle
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Money talks, bullshit walks.
Publicservice29
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i read something on that once, i called bs on it though
Shpadoinkle
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That's only if the car weighs two pounds.
Alex_thedroog
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that would just make me jollier then a jolly rancher
Powdered_Donuts
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they have cargo trains now that can pull a full load 300-400 miles on one gallon of fuel, im sure they can pull it off in a small ass (compared to the train lol) car or truck.
potatofarmer
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I'd belice it. there are so many patents that oil companies have bought and do nothhing with, just to keep the public paying
TerminatorX
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i am calling bs on that one.
snowbladesforlife
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Patents are only good for 20 years. So the public has this information for almost 90 years and done nothing with it. Blame them.
steezyjibber
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ChadThundercock
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well, as for high mpg concept cars i found a few from toyota that look uber sick and thought you guys might want to check it out...
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Powdered_Donuts
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haha, audi was like fuck windshields we dont need that shit
ChadThundercock
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now that you say that i noticed that that creme colored car that i posted above doesnt have a windshield! that would be like hell driving to work everyday, and pretty damn chilly in the winter...
skifree919
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you do realize that the early 1900s was when the model T was the car to have right? If this is true, it would mean the car goes like 10 mph tops haha. This is definitley a load of shit. Also, exxon was founded in 1973. Yep complete bullshit
0123456789
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the toyota is the supra concept, so idk if itll get "good "MPG's
R@ggaMuffin
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like 7 or 8 years ago they had fully electric cars, that they leased out and were working great. Then all of them were recalled by GM and they wouldnt admit why even though all the customers loved them and now they are all sitting in a lot in california. Retarded eh?
dodgeridge*rider
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theres this car that runs on water, it has a fiberglass water cooled engine and it runs on water man
SteezyasPie
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correct me if i'm wrong but i'm pretty sure this has to do with inertia, like someone said earlier it takes more work (gas) to get them moving but once youve got it going its not as hard to keep it going (uses less gas/ takes less work)
ferrinski86
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yes they did but it was not feasible at the time. sure it may have worked for the city folk driving 60 miles a day maybe.
i assume you watched the movie "who killed the electric car"? although that told the story, it was 1 sided for sure. they dont tell you the battery problems or the logistical problems or what the market was at that time. even if you didnt watch that documentary the assumption that the oil companies "paid off" the car companies or purchases the patent is a complete load of crap. (i know you didnt say that, this is my assumption)
truth is, GM (or any car company for that matter) would LOVE to sell ANYTHING to the general public that would work. GM would sell a car that ran off of shit if they new it would sell (by sell i mean by the millions not just a niche market, which is what the original electric cars were designed to meet). imagine how much money GM would make if they came out with an electric car that would function the same as a gas car, with the same power and standards and everything we have in a gas car/tuck whatever. the profits in this country alone would be the greatest in any car company in history, not to mention global sales (and with your weak dollar GM would take this country back to the top) BUT, we dont have technology yet to switch everybody over, but we are close.
new technologies have proven to work even better than they were 10 or 15 years ago. we have new battery technology, as well as lighter batteries, better fuel efficiency, better mileage off a charge...
the real problem with the electric car is just that, its electric. you have to charge it. i would assume that the major car companies will be moving to recharging battery power. where you wont have to charge the battery at all after a certain number of miles. WHY? because of the logistical problems and money problems. trying to travel long distances and re-charging somewhere is a huge problem, not to mention our current electrical infrastructure cannot support a true "switch" to supply both electricity to your house let alone charge every persons car. as far as cost, you would just transfer "gas" costs to "electrical" costs as well as shoot electrical costs through the roof (and if you havent noticed already, electricity costs have doubled since last year alone. at my store here we went through have as much electricity as last year but our bill doubled in price. so now you have demand for electricity and NO new supply so there is your price problem again.)
Americans will buy electric when the time is right and the cars fit our lifestyle and our infrastructure will allow such a dramatic shift. the reality is that the majority of americans need something that can travel long distances, hold alot of people and does not look like you will die when you get in it.
NOW, after all that, i do believe that GM should not have taken those cars off the road. it did serve for a niche market for city life.
if you think that GM is the only car company producing electric cars think again. I forgot the company name but they are out of Norway (mabey?) and they will be selling electric cars here in America next year. the cars are medium size, get 125 miles of 1 charge (i think) have better, lighter batteries that only take 3 to 4 hours to get to 85% charge and are pretty well priced. i will try to find a link soon but before you go bashing on me, or GM realize that you didnt have all the information to make a "retarded eh" statement.
BTW: sorry for picking on you but for some reason i really wanted to get this off my chest. haha, later guys
i assume you watched the movie "who killed the electric car"? although that told the story, it was 1 sided for sure. they dont tell you the battery problems or the logistical problems or what the market was at that time. even if you didnt watch that documentary the assumption that the oil companies "paid off" the car companies or purchases the patent is a complete load of crap. (i know you didnt say that, this is my assumption)
truth is, GM (or any car company for that matter) would LOVE to sell ANYTHING to the general public that would work. GM would sell a car that ran off of shit if they new it would sell (by sell i mean by the millions not just a niche market, which is what the original electric cars were designed to meet). imagine how much money GM would make if they came out with an electric car that would function the same as a gas car, with the same power and standards and everything we have in a gas car/tuck whatever. the profits in this country alone would be the greatest in any car company in history, not to mention global sales (and with your weak dollar GM would take this country back to the top) BUT, we dont have technology yet to switch everybody over, but we are close.
new technologies have proven to work even better than they were 10 or 15 years ago. we have new battery technology, as well as lighter batteries, better fuel efficiency, better mileage off a charge...
the real problem with the electric car is just that, its electric. you have to charge it. i would assume that the major car companies will be moving to recharging battery power. where you wont have to charge the battery at all after a certain number of miles. WHY? because of the logistical problems and money problems. trying to travel long distances and re-charging somewhere is a huge problem, not to mention our current electrical infrastructure cannot support a true "switch" to supply both electricity to your house let alone charge every persons car. as far as cost, you would just transfer "gas" costs to "electrical" costs as well as shoot electrical costs through the roof (and if you havent noticed already, electricity costs have doubled since last year alone. at my store here we went through have as much electricity as last year but our bill doubled in price. so now you have demand for electricity and NO new supply so there is your price problem again.)
Americans will buy electric when the time is right and the cars fit our lifestyle and our infrastructure will allow such a dramatic shift. the reality is that the majority of americans need something that can travel long distances, hold alot of people and does not look like you will die when you get in it.
NOW, after all that, i do believe that GM should not have taken those cars off the road. it did serve for a niche market for city life.
if you think that GM is the only car company producing electric cars think again. I forgot the company name but they are out of Norway (mabey?) and they will be selling electric cars here in America next year. the cars are medium size, get 125 miles of 1 charge (i think) have better, lighter batteries that only take 3 to 4 hours to get to 85% charge and are pretty well priced. i will try to find a link soon but before you go bashing on me, or GM realize that you didnt have all the information to make a "retarded eh" statement.
BTW: sorry for picking on you but for some reason i really wanted to get this off my chest. haha, later guys
ferrinski86
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no they wont. here is why
http://www.cnbc.com/id/26035873.
GM will be selling a full on electric car, the "VOLT" in 2010 and it will blow the car industry out of the water. stop thinking the oil companies will shut everything down dude. if GM doesnt come out with the VOLT in 2010 (or somewhere around that time) then you can bitch.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/26035873.
GM will be selling a full on electric car, the "VOLT" in 2010 and it will blow the car industry out of the water. stop thinking the oil companies will shut everything down dude. if GM doesnt come out with the VOLT in 2010 (or somewhere around that time) then you can bitch.
dbchili
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first off there are cars that run on shit, refer to a certain top gear episode that races a car powered by gas, a car powered by cow dung, and a car powered by human kerplop, theyre powered by the methanol that phecies gives off, gas still wins but its the thought that counts
second off electric cars are now on the market and will be on the roads soon, tesla is now taking deposits for the tesla roadster which will run around 90k, a fully battery powered car that will do 0-60 in under four seconds, theres only one real problem with electric cars which is that since they develop their peak torque throughout the entire rev range of the vehicle, they will basically rip a transmission apart because 250 lb/ft of torque cannot be handled from a standstill, which is definitely a smirk provoking thought. Theyll also do a range of about 300km i think, so about 200 miles. Everyone knows you have to recharge them, but once the transmission problems get figured out electric cars will be the ideal mode of transport for the daily commuter. Plus io think the quote to charge the tesla was around five dollars, which compared to a tank of gas is peanuts.
second off electric cars are now on the market and will be on the roads soon, tesla is now taking deposits for the tesla roadster which will run around 90k, a fully battery powered car that will do 0-60 in under four seconds, theres only one real problem with electric cars which is that since they develop their peak torque throughout the entire rev range of the vehicle, they will basically rip a transmission apart because 250 lb/ft of torque cannot be handled from a standstill, which is definitely a smirk provoking thought. Theyll also do a range of about 300km i think, so about 200 miles. Everyone knows you have to recharge them, but once the transmission problems get figured out electric cars will be the ideal mode of transport for the daily commuter. Plus io think the quote to charge the tesla was around five dollars, which compared to a tank of gas is peanuts.
skifree919
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if we shift to electricity, we will all just turn to coal which is dirtier than oil.. damnit
jsaya_SagStraps
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steam-power. yea steam power, its the future lol
R@ggaMuffin
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im definitely not saying we should switch to electricity.... im just saying the technology was in production for a while and they stopped producing it.
SKIDUBAIGUY
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Untill they find a car that runs on air sucked in from outside the car, were screwed.
ferrinski86
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i know. i wasnt disagreeing with you. i was just stating that we do have them and that oil companies are not to blame. its the technology hurdles that we have to get over to mass produce these cars for the general public to buy them. were close tho.
ferrinski86
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TRUE TRUE.
i think thats the real problem (outside of costs). people are pissed that we cant control our nations fuel industry. (this next statement is my opinion and i really dont want to argue over it because its already been done, haha) hypothetically speaking, we need to drill and search for alternatives at the same time. tap into all resources for now to transfer over to alternative energy and fuels. my reasoning is that people are loosing jobs faster than we are producing them. the cost of doing business in this country right now is insane and will only get worse as fuel keeps rising.
i think we are beyond the point of fixing the short term problem. hundreds of thousands of people may loose their jobs as many corporations have already shut down their doors. I work in the furniture business and we lost our 3rd largest sofa company to the increase in prices. this company was a multi-million dollar business (not big compared to Exxon for example but still). it takes longer to get goods here because trucks wont leave half full.
my whole point is that if we dont do everything possible now, on both fronts (drilling and alternatives) we wont have an America anymore, we will have a depression. you can say thats a far stretch but for those of you who own your own business you know exactly what im talking about. srry for the rant, haha
i think thats the real problem (outside of costs). people are pissed that we cant control our nations fuel industry. (this next statement is my opinion and i really dont want to argue over it because its already been done, haha) hypothetically speaking, we need to drill and search for alternatives at the same time. tap into all resources for now to transfer over to alternative energy and fuels. my reasoning is that people are loosing jobs faster than we are producing them. the cost of doing business in this country right now is insane and will only get worse as fuel keeps rising.
i think we are beyond the point of fixing the short term problem. hundreds of thousands of people may loose their jobs as many corporations have already shut down their doors. I work in the furniture business and we lost our 3rd largest sofa company to the increase in prices. this company was a multi-million dollar business (not big compared to Exxon for example but still). it takes longer to get goods here because trucks wont leave half full.
my whole point is that if we dont do everything possible now, on both fronts (drilling and alternatives) we wont have an America anymore, we will have a depression. you can say thats a far stretch but for those of you who own your own business you know exactly what im talking about. srry for the rant, haha
ferrinski86
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but i got little of subject so you can ignore the last half of my last post, haha. unless somebody wants to say something but i dont think any of us wants to aruge over the oil thing (unless we re-enter the whole "drill-now-pay-less" 11 page thread, haha). sorry for the double post
powderhound100
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this is true, Arnold made every car company (or something) make a car with zero emissions. People leased them, loved them, but after the lease when they wanted to buy them they woudn't let them. God dam oil companies