What the guy above said, universal healthcare is for the benefit of the lower class people mostly. Sure the people who can afford it might get chapped because they can afford it and would rather not wait, but the people who would not be able to afford it can appreciate the fact they'll get taken care of. Better late than never. But America's healthcare; if it can be afforded; is better.
$12000 hospital bill!
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freestyler540
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HAHAHAHA, yes our taxes are high, but who gives a shit. All we got to do is spend less. I pay taxes too buddy, I dont complain about that. I know that every time I come out of a hospital, I will never put myself in great debt.
fourhundred
Active member
i wonder how much 3 casts, half dozen x rays, a week of physio and 12 stitches would come to?
Literature
Active member
I'm definitely a fan of the parent's insurance.
22K bill for running my face into the ground = only 1800 I had to pay. Very lucky.
22K bill for running my face into the ground = only 1800 I had to pay. Very lucky.
skiminnesota
Active member
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
guess what!
i actually like to keep the money i work for.
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
i can spend my own money better than the government choosing healthcare for me..
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
when i get a life threatening health condition, i want to get to choose to go to any doctor i want.
HAHAHAHAHA
guess what!
i work to provide myself a good amount of money, i dont work so every tom, dick and harry, can go to a doctor. i work for me, and the causes i see fit to donate my money to.
guess what!
i actually like to keep the money i work for.
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
i can spend my own money better than the government choosing healthcare for me..
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
when i get a life threatening health condition, i want to get to choose to go to any doctor i want.
HAHAHAHAHA
guess what!
i work to provide myself a good amount of money, i dont work so every tom, dick and harry, can go to a doctor. i work for me, and the causes i see fit to donate my money to.
sniper_6
Active member
exactly and i think we can add "INSURANCE" to the list. Someone said this before i believe but if someone can afford to ski, it is very likely that they have a job that has full medical coverage for them and their family. I get the impression that all these Europeans and Canadians who are on their high horse about their universal coverage actually believe that when we in America have a $150K procedure, we have to write a check for that amount the way out of the hospital. Now of course there are some copays and such so you can come across some expenses but our taxes are significantly lower and (except in rare cases) this more than makes up the difference. I think that even for a serious sickness (ie. cancer) in the US where you might need to pay out of pocket for more things than you would in Canda, it is worth it to be able to chose your doctor and be afforded more effecient health care.
mark.p
Active member
Universal healthcare does not work. I have lived in both Canada and the United States and let me tell you, as someone who has experienced both worlds, the US health care system is FAR superior to the Canadian system. Example: My dad had a heart condition, called the doctor and had an appointment to see him the next day. The doctor told him to see a cardiologist and that appointment was set up in 2 days. He had a heart monitor delivered express shipping to his house within the week. Do you realize how long that could have took with the Canadian health care system? We would still be waiting for the initial doctor visit at this time. another example of this is my aunt is now terminally ill in Canada, has been sick for over 6 months now and the Canadian doctors still have not figured out why she is even sick. The Canadian health care system is pathetic. Look, if you have money and live in Canada, when the going gets tough you go to the US for health care. In many of the boarder states of the US there is a push to not let Canadians use the hospitals because they are sick of treating Canadian problems. The US health care system works because they are selling a service. This means that the hospitals are motivated to deliver a superior product to their competitors or they will go out of business.
dman1260
Member
my brother had Kawasaki's disease when he was little and I think the bill ended up being like 1,000,000 (maybe more) bucks after being in Stanford Hospital for like a month of constant surgeries, emergency helicopter flights, and diagnosis. Plus, they had people flying in from all over the country at least once a day. Pretty crazy. We had insurance though so we just had to pay the deductible, however much that was.
5 broken ribs, broken scapula, fractured L1, bruised lung, no surgery, 4 days in hospital, $25,000. I pay around $210 a month for insurance and I never paid a dime out of pocket. In fact, part of my insurance pays me every month I'm not employed due to medical reasons. I live in the US and pay 15% of my income to taxes. Life is just expensive to do right.
sniper_6
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GDP PER CAPITA
HIGHEST GDP PER CAPITA1 (PPP in U.S. dollars): 2007
1.
Luxembourg
$71,400
2.
Equatorial Guinea
50,200
3.
United Arab Emirates
49,700
4.
Norway
46,300
5.
Ireland
44,500
6.
United States
43,800
7.
Andorra
38,800
8.
Iceland
38,000
8.
Denmark
37,100
9.
Canada
35,700
10.
Austria
34,700
GDP
RankCountryGDP (Billion $)
1
United States
12,980
2
China
10,000
3
Japan
4,220
4
India
4,042
5
Germany
2,585
6
United Kingdom
1,903
7
France
1,871
8
Italy
1,727
9
Russia
1,723
10
Brazil
1,616
11
Korea, South
1,180
12
Canada
1,165
13
Mexico
1,134
14
Spain
1,070
15
Indonesia
935
16
Taiwan
668.3
17
Australia
666.3
18
Turkey
627.2
19
Iran
610.4
20
Argentina
599.1
21
Thailand
585.9
22
South Africa
576.4
23
Poland
542.6
24
Netherlands
512
25
Philippines
443.1
26
Pakistan
427.3
27
Saudi Arabia
374
28
Colombia
366.7
29
Ukraine
355.8
30
Bangladesh
330.8
31
Belgium
330.4
32
Egypt
328.1
33
Malaysia
308.8
34
Sweden
285.1
35
Austria
279.5
36
Vietnam
258.6
37
Algeria
253.4
38
Hong Kong
253.1
39
Switzerland
252.9
40
Greece
251.7
41
Czech Republic
221.4
42
Norway
207.3
43
Portugal
203.1
44
Chile
203
45
Denmark
198.5
46
Romania
197.3
47
Nigeria
188.5
48
Peru
181.8
49
Ireland
177.2
50
Venezuela
176.4
51
Hungary
172.7
52
Finland
171.7
Your GDP is not even close to us (we're 1st and you're 52nd) and your GDP Per Capita is not even in the top ten where as we are number 6 so im not exactly sure if maybe you meant something else? I dont know but what you said is wrong.
coolhandluke
Active member
i presume at some point you will earn over $30,000 a year. then you'll quickly get to 25% until you bust above $80,000.
a solid insurance policys at work outweighs the extra $5,000 you may earn at a different company. my dad's insurance policy thru his work used to pretty much pay for every injury, surgery, and dental checkup. now im on my own and my work does not provide 100% coverage. result is me wearing more pads, mouthguard, and pretending to take things slower. because if i broke something now i couldn't afford the hospital bill and wouldn't be able to work. thus, your salary doesn't mean shit if you have little insurance coverage through your work.
a solid insurance policys at work outweighs the extra $5,000 you may earn at a different company. my dad's insurance policy thru his work used to pretty much pay for every injury, surgery, and dental checkup. now im on my own and my work does not provide 100% coverage. result is me wearing more pads, mouthguard, and pretending to take things slower. because if i broke something now i couldn't afford the hospital bill and wouldn't be able to work. thus, your salary doesn't mean shit if you have little insurance coverage through your work.
Pipe_Munky
Active member
really?
i could swear that when i fractured a disc in my spine and when i snapped my clavical that i wasn't hit up with a multi-thousand dollar bill for it.
if you're referring to the fact that we are taxed huge, i would much rather pay extra money for booze and my income tax than having a $200,000+ bill when i smoke a tree while on my bike or rip my acl on a skicross track.
i could swear that when i fractured a disc in my spine and when i snapped my clavical that i wasn't hit up with a multi-thousand dollar bill for it.
if you're referring to the fact that we are taxed huge, i would much rather pay extra money for booze and my income tax than having a $200,000+ bill when i smoke a tree while on my bike or rip my acl on a skicross track.
cobra_commander
Active member
No it's not
skiminnesota
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JHDski47
Member
i broke my finger (sounds like nothing) but it was totally sideways and fucked up. So i went to a doctor and he couldnt do anything about it since it was dislocated and broken real bad. then i had to go see 2 more doctors at different times before they told me i needed surgery. I had to get surgery and get metal pins through my finger that came out both sides. My bill would have been sooo damn high but my mom works for the hospital so they payed for everything. Got so lucky there.