i thought their performance on firm snow was incredible for a 110mm ski. i've had two days on them so far, skiing solely on man-made snow in the ice coast. they carve like a mother, short turns, long turns, and i have yet to find the speed limit. they are very poppy and super responsive. i'm coming off of 2nd gen seth pistols for the last 5 years and the blogs are a complete game changer. i have the 185's mounted at the "team" line and i'm 6'2" and 190lbs. super fun one-ski quiver!