09 motherships?

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nickwm21

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im an idiot and put it in the wrong forum. so dont reply to the other one

Anyone know anything about these skis? All the gear preview says is:

"142-111-131, stiff as a board and tough as nails". I read in another

thread that they were rockered. true?

Im guessing there just somewhere in between the prophet 100 and 130. a little stiffer

-n
 
i think there is a slight rocker in the tip. i tried them a few weeks ago and they were awesome. they are pretty stiff but still very managable.
 
early rise like the ep, one of the stiffest skis ive ever flexed, but i think theyre gonna fucking rock. the graphic on it is beautiful in person, the wood is all stained and the grain on it looks super strong
 
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early rise in the tip ti matrix and sidewall unlike the other prophets..

skis amasing super fun charging/pow ski
 
no, it means the ski rises early.

the rise in a ski usually starts very late in the ski, where the contact of the ski to snow is... other wise known as the contact point... after that it rises to the tip. Early rise is when the ski has the contact point set farther back on the ski. Rocker on the other hand is a whole different animal all together.

Rocker is more dramatic and puts the contact point much farther back in the ski.

Armada ( and someone correct me if I am wrong) and line have been using early rise for a while so they can use a longer surface area and longer ski that feels as if it is shorter. Thus using less tip height to make up for float and maneuverability.

I could go on... but I might be totally wrong.

sounds like a stick for the super cruising on the large faced pitches. has the hippy vibe to it if you ask me... but thats just me.
 
you are right, plus early rise skis still have camber, where rocker skis have no camber...

and the new motherships are awesome, they only come in 185 or 195.. it's definitely a big mountain charger ski..
 
Rocked skis can have camber.

Reverse Camber skis do not.

I still dont understand the difference between early rise and rocker.
 
Its semantics, theyre are technically one in the same.

lets just call early rise a very very small rocker.

and lets just call rocker a very advanced extreme and abrupt amount of early rise.
 
Actually, I was trying to generalize the whole thing.

Its all the same really, set up to do the same thing in varying degrees. no?

 
Actually you guys arent understanding early rise, its not the same thing as rocker.

For example, the hellbents have full ROCKER, meaning the ENTIRE ski is bent, or rockered, in the tip, underfoot, tail. If you set it on its side it would look like a mini rainbow shape.

With lines "early rise" there is no camber underfoot, its just flat(at least on EP pros, maybe there is even slight camber on the moships), and either the tip and tail, or just the tip, rise up like rocker, just not along the entire ski like spatulas, hellbents, etc.

 
Hellbents have a flat spot underfoot, because the whole point of rocker is to still have a managable ski on hard snow. What you described is reverse camber.
 
Well if thats true then I guess I was wrong...I thought that the hellbents had full rocker, didnt know there was a flat spot under foot?

I was pretty sure that "rocker" and "reverse camber" were the same thing, hence lines whole point of coming up with "early rise" as opposed to full rocker/reverse camber. If a ski only goes up in the tip, or tail, wouldnt you say it has a "rockered tip" or "rockered tail", not just simply that its "rockered"?
 
^ i have no idea on the exact terminology, i just call every ski rockered thats bent the other way. But my hellbents definitely have a flat spot in the middle, even a tiny bit (1mm or so) of regular camber.
 
I'd say that the ski is rockered in the tip or has tip rocker or something

Reverse camber = Like a cambered ski only inverted. A continuous curve praxis spat etc

Rocker = a section of reverse camber
 
Its all a marketing thing. In order to be able to say they have a different technology than other ski companies Line uses the term "early rise" as apposed to "rocker" Its a way to differentiate themselves from a sea of new rockered skis.

That being said, there are skis with varying amounts of rocker as well early rise. Site the EP pro with someone brought up. That has a large amount of early rise because it is a primarily powder ski, where as some of the other line skis with early rise have less of it.

Same goes for rockered skis. Some like the Hellbent have a great deal of rocker and some have much less. it depends on the intended use of the ski and its overall design.

What separates rocker/early rise from reverse camber is that in reverse camber is carried out through the entire ski, rocker/ early rise skis can either have a flat section under the foot with 0 camber or traditional camber underfoot, again depending on the design and intended use of the ski.

Hope that clears things up for everyone.

 
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