I beat the CRAP out of my 08 walls, I literally got to a point were I didn't care about them what so ever (I already had a back-up ski and antidogmas on the way), I skied them on ANYTHING - snow, slush, rails, boxes, mud, rocks, backyard jibs, the last day of the season at my home mountain there was pretty much a lake at the bottom cause was 50 degrees out and I skied them through that and then took them to mount snow the next week and pretty much did the same thing. I skied them on my summer set up, I pretty much tried to kill them. The result...barely a scratch, I'm not joking, minor base damage (not even worth ptexing) and minor top sheet chipping. No edge damage what so ever, no sidewall damage. I swear that is the most bombproof ski I've ever skied, if you don't mind a stiffer ski I'd total get them and not worry about destroying them, plus Volkl's warrenty is normally pretty legit (I say normally cause I saw one kid on here had a bad experience but it looks like poor communication between the shop, rep, and delivery department).