are you crazy? You must be super spoiled then. I use them as my only ski and love them. They carve better than any park or mid-fat ski I've owned (PE, AR5 and AR6, Scratchs, ARVs). Of course a super fat ski isn't great on spring slush... however, I rode them in 65 degree east coast slush and still had an absolute blast messing around. I'd recommend them to anyone who is a good skier and doesn't mind putting in the work. Clearly they are heavy because they are so big, so spinning isn't ideal, but hey, that is the draw back.