i got my tramp from k-mart and it is hellza bouncy. its 13' and it was $210 even. you don't need a huge circus tramp unless you are in the circus. oh and yeah they are the second best training for skiing. water ramps are fo sho the best.
aclsarescary i agree with you. there are a lot of snowboarders that just judge skiers by the old fassion tight pants and crap. and not doing tricks like they do. I have respect for snowboarders but only if they have respect for us. like most of the really good snowboarders know what freeskiing...