we were hittin it prob just a little above the vertical concrete bit (if u get what i mean). Nah there is no snow at the mo its mid summer so we got it from an ice rink, they just chuck all the shavings outside. its good cos u can start up as high as u like it just keeps goin on into the black tho u wud hav to b pretty fucken gnarley to hit it from the top.
