SkiingBurgular
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I have only used 2014 afterbangs and Sir Francis bacons. After bangs were fucking trash and sir Francis bacons were a decent all around ski.
Your experience with Line skis?
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BagOTricks
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Chronics are on point!
John18_6
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I'm speaking with unbiased honesty here. I've been on 15/16 chronics January-April, I'm on 16/17 chronnies this year, and have had line skis for 2 other seasons. From my experience, Line skis are super fun to ride but the durability of them is awful. Edges aren't thick enough so they crack after just a few weeks of rail riding. Delam happens a month or so in, luckily that's a quick fix with duck tape and a hair dryer. Anything on their website that sells for $500 or less isn't worth riding unless you're a little kid. The Line Mastermind might be one of the worst skis ever made.
The pair of K2 shredditor 92s I rode the season before last absolutely killed it, absolutely nothing wrong with them until a freak handrail incident took out the sidewall and then water got in the core... K2's construction is excellent though. I feel like the Poacher would be the only ski I'd have to buy for the next 5 years.
Line skis would be killer if they were half the price that they sold for. A ski that stays in normal condition for only a month is not worth $600+ in my opinion. I'm only on them because of a very long story and situation that resulted in me paying well under retail. Once my pair of chronics break I'll be switching to some Armadas or back to K2's.
The pair of K2 shredditor 92s I rode the season before last absolutely killed it, absolutely nothing wrong with them until a freak handrail incident took out the sidewall and then water got in the core... K2's construction is excellent though. I feel like the Poacher would be the only ski I'd have to buy for the next 5 years.
Line skis would be killer if they were half the price that they sold for. A ski that stays in normal condition for only a month is not worth $600+ in my opinion. I'm only on them because of a very long story and situation that resulted in me paying well under retail. Once my pair of chronics break I'll be switching to some Armadas or back to K2's.
elcornholio
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I got the 2006 Line Invaders when I was like 8
JerryKilla
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I really dig my 2015 chronics really playful and fun ski but still hold an edge real well
jake_tom_sully
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13761454:john18061806 said:
You do realize that K2 skis and line skis are the exact same skis right? It's either a coincidence that your line's broke and your k2's were super legit or you have no idea what you're talking about
13761480:Morel said:
I mean they're owned by the same parent company but are they actually that similar? I don't know the specs well enough but being owned by the same company doesn't always mean their products are the same. Volkl is also under the same parent company has K2 and Line yet, I think most would agree they're quite different skis.
JerryKilla
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13761557:john18061806 said:
The shreditor 92 and chronics are basically the same ski I don't know about the materials though and I don't think they're making the 92s anymore
hot.pocket
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13761565:JerryKilla said:
So they basically have the same shape and based on the shape alone they're the same ski?
jake_tom_sully
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13761557:john18061806 said:
there is a huge difference between having the same parent company and being manufactured in the same place. In this case it's the latter. They are obviously not the exact same skis but there is a reason line skis had a huge increase in quality when they were sold from karhu in canada to k2, its because the manufacturing shifted to k2's factories. Otherwise line skis would have stayed in burlington like they were before k2 bought them and they would still be having invaders blow out the edges on the tips and tails. buying 2 pairs of line skis doesn't make you a brand expert.
JerryKilla
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13761575:hot.pocket said:
Essentially, The shreditor is 124-92-118 and the chronics 121-92-117 so pretty damn close, also from what I've heard the k2s are a bit stiffer
GrapeHunter
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My first ever skis were 2014 after bangs and i had no idea what a fun ski felt like. after riding the 15 traveling circus ski, i hated my abangs. Then i got blends and absolutely love them. The durability isn't great, but if you're not hammering rails 24/7 and being a savage to your skis then they are fine. They're playful and i enjoy them for the price.
soupcan
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Honestly i have some bacons from a few years ago and they are my favourite skis I have ever been on as far as being buttery and just great to bomb around on. Sure they are prone to some top sheet chipping and the bases aren't the thickest or most durable on the market. I dont ride them in the park so i cant talk alot about edge life. Either way Line has made there share of the market based on fun not durability and I personally think they nailed the fun part.
Dirtyslobz
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13761482:Mingg said:
The specs are still different
Bacons are super playful and fun ski, i have masterminds and the extruded bases are shit and im just waiting for them to snap on me. Just gives me an excuse to buy a better ski next time. They arent awful but they arent amazing either, i will say their upper value line like the bacons and mordecais etc are really fun skis, just dont slide them on rails every day
jake_tom_sully
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13761717:Profahoben_212 said:
did you read my second post? I'm not wrong, line skis are made in the same place as k2 skis, which means the quality is going to be very similar I'm not sure why you think otherwise. and your car analogy is shit too, ever compared a saab 92x and an impreza? what a coincidence!
profa_212
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13761818:Morel said:
May be made in the same place...but they are made using different materials and have different tech. Not the same skis....saying the shreditor 92 and the chronics? Are the same isn't correct. K2 makes much more durable skis. Line may be fun...but they don't have the durability.
JerryKilla
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13761820:Profahoben_212 said:
I said in my earlier post that I don't know what materials the shreditors are made of compared to the chronics I was just saying that they basically have the same shape and would work in the same conditions
JerryKilla
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13761820:Profahoben_212 said:
I said in my earlier post that I don't know what materials the shreditors are made of compared to the chronics I was just saying that they basically have the same shape and would work in the same conditions
jake_tom_sully
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13761820:Profahoben_212 said:
now you're confusing 2 different people's posts, I never said anything about any specific k2 skis and they are not made using different materials but they are made using different tech I'll give you that which is why I never said anything about specific k2 vs line skis. But when the same presses are used with the same materials the skis are going to have similar durability, I'm not sure why everyone wants to argue about this. I'm not saying any one individual is wrong about their personal skis breaking, skis break, but the batches of skis in general will have a similar durability, say what you want.
JerryKilla
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13761835:Profahoben_212 said:
Yea I was between them for my current pair and I decided on the chronics cause they're a little softer and more playful but I still love they way they feel out of the park
Chronics and shreditors are completely different skis with similar dimensions. they ski completely differently, have different durability, and while they are made in the same factory, have different quality because of the different materials. Ive used both an extensive amount and the two guys arguing against what I just said don't know what they are talking about or are unclear on what they are trying to say.
K2's are way tankier and more solid. Lines feel like glorified plastic and super fake imo but still fun skis.
K2's are way tankier and more solid. Lines feel like glorified plastic and super fake imo but still fun skis.
Casey
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13761480:Morel said:
10/10 combination of arrogance and stupidity. Would read again.
Anyway the one pair of lines I had were the 07? chronic blends that were brown with the gangster crows on them. They were pretty awesome actually, I got a ridiculous deal on them randomly and had no idea what to expect- they were stiff as hell, you could Ollie like 3 feet in the air if you could load the tails up hard enough. Really responsive when hauling ass.
KapitolPhoto
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topic:SkiingBurgular said:
@SkiingBurgular - I'd like to hear more about your experience. - please email me at dan@lineskis.com.
Kbob94
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I own a pair of the magnum opus skis and I also had a pair of the 13 TC skis. I absolutely loved the TC skis they were a fun symmetrical park ski I never had any issues with them falling apart or breaking and I beat the hell outta them. I still have my magnum opus as my pow ski and damn are they a fun ski. By far one of the best pow skis I've had a chance to ride. I also own the 108 bacons and the mr pollard opus as well. All of which were super killer skis. The Eric pollard collection is by far one of the best athlete to company collaborations I've seen in the industry. I personally have nothing negative to say about line skis and honestly if it wasn't for Jlev and line skiing wouldn't be where it is today
tumbler_jay
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I am currently riding the Line future spins and they are pretty decent but defiantly not durable. I have been on them for one year and and they already have multiple chips and dents. Would not reccomend.
mmccarthy81
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13761454:john18061806 said:
Yup, my sidewalls are fucked after like 20 days on snow but the Blends are really fun skis. I got mine for like $350 so I'm not too mad about the durability, but I'll probably go for ON3P's or J's or some other high quality, small company next.
I_liketobutter
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I don't understand where the lack of durability talk comes from, maybe its only the lower priced skis.
I had the skied the 07/08 Elizabeths for 140 days, no issues. Tons of those days in the park
I currently own the 08/09 Elizabeths and they have 400+ days on them. Tons of those days in the park w/ the last 70 on a rope tow park in MN which destroys skis compared to out west. A chunk of the edge came out underfoot at around 300 days. Just cut er out and they keep going. Sure, the camber is gone, but any ski w/ that many days isn't going to be perfect.
I currently own the 2012 bacons and again, they look damn good after 60 or so days, 40 being on a rope tow park.
I had the skied the 07/08 Elizabeths for 140 days, no issues. Tons of those days in the park
I currently own the 08/09 Elizabeths and they have 400+ days on them. Tons of those days in the park w/ the last 70 on a rope tow park in MN which destroys skis compared to out west. A chunk of the edge came out underfoot at around 300 days. Just cut er out and they keep going. Sure, the camber is gone, but any ski w/ that many days isn't going to be perfect.
I currently own the 2012 bacons and again, they look damn good after 60 or so days, 40 being on a rope tow park.
GayWolf420
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Pls make the step ups again. Such a fun ski to hit jumps on.
John18_6
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13762035:mmccarthy81 said:
As long as there aren't any big holes in the sidewall near the center of the ski it's just cosmetic damage. From what I've heard, the blends are incredible and last awhile. I know someone who still rides a pair from 2009 and they get out a lot. I'm fiending for a pair but can't spend that much $$.
mmccarthy81
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13762100:john18061806 said:
Oh yeah I love them, its mostly just the edges of the top sheet that are chipped up. There's some exposed wood but not bad enough for them to really get water damaged I don't think. I talked to a guy at a shop that was still skiing a pair of 2010s when I bought them last year. If I didn't ski rails as much as I do with them I'm sure they'd hold up great.
Slush
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I have a pair of Line Chronics and I have skied them for two seasons. They're a really fun ski, and after two seasons i'd say they're just about shot. The top sheet chips pretty easily, the bases are kinda torn up underfoot where I slide rails, but other than that nothing compromising. But they were an all around super fun ski that served me well and had pretty normal wear after a decent amount of time
SpliffsOnLifts
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The first ski I ever bought were the '11 Afterbangs. That was back when I was a youngin and spent the majority of my time in the park. They were a great ski for park. I beat them up so much and they always held up. However, when I tried to do anything except the park on them they were absolutely trash. I now ride the '14 Chronics and love them. I still do park and they kill it but the main reason I switched to them was for a more all mountain ski. They changed the way I see the mountain; super playful and buttery and they charge on groomers. Even took them out west and they were holding up in the back bowls. The biggest problem with them is the durability. After like 2 days of riding them the edges were all chipped and the graphic was peeling. After 2 seasons on them I've had to fill countless chips and holes in the bottoms. I like Line a lot for what they did to revolutionize freestyle skiing and how fun they feel but when it comes down to it you can get a lot better quality ski for the same price. This will definitely be my last season riding Line
randymeetsworld
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I have had a few days on the Mordecai and it is phenomenal. Versatile and very active, playful ski. Haven't had any trouble with durability so far.
thepastapalace
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Chronics are on point!
except they flake really fast
except they flake really fast
Over the years I've had 2 pairs of TCs, 2 pairs of Afterbangs, 1 pair of Future Spin, and I'm currently on Chronics.
My first pair of Afterbangs lasted me 3 months, and my second pair had edge cracks and pressure cracks within 10-15 days.
Both pairs of TCs have lasted me a year / 80+ days. It was a super solid jib ski, and I think that if they should've had market that ski as their tough as nails pricepoint ski, instead of the Afterbang. And I didn't have any edge cracks before 60+ days.
The Future Spin wasn't very durable. Edge cracks early on, and the sidewall was delaminating.
So all in all, Line got rid of the Afterbang and the Future Spin, which is a good thing, and it seems like with the Honeybadger, they're trying to succeed where the Afterbang didn't, with doing a tough, fun, light, playful ski.
I'm currently riding Chronics, and they're without a doubt the best ski I've skied from Line. They're light, stable under foot, soft enough in the tips so you can do presses, and they ski well outside the park. I've skied them a little over 10 times, and I've hit urban once, and they're holding up good so far. Sure, I haven't skied them nearly enough to say that they are a durable ski, but so far I think they'll hold up great.
I think that Line's line up is solid right now, as they got rid of the models that had durability issues.
My first pair of Afterbangs lasted me 3 months, and my second pair had edge cracks and pressure cracks within 10-15 days.
Both pairs of TCs have lasted me a year / 80+ days. It was a super solid jib ski, and I think that if they should've had market that ski as their tough as nails pricepoint ski, instead of the Afterbang. And I didn't have any edge cracks before 60+ days.
The Future Spin wasn't very durable. Edge cracks early on, and the sidewall was delaminating.
So all in all, Line got rid of the Afterbang and the Future Spin, which is a good thing, and it seems like with the Honeybadger, they're trying to succeed where the Afterbang didn't, with doing a tough, fun, light, playful ski.
I'm currently riding Chronics, and they're without a doubt the best ski I've skied from Line. They're light, stable under foot, soft enough in the tips so you can do presses, and they ski well outside the park. I've skied them a little over 10 times, and I've hit urban once, and they're holding up good so far. Sure, I haven't skied them nearly enough to say that they are a durable ski, but so far I think they'll hold up great.
I think that Line's line up is solid right now, as they got rid of the models that had durability issues.