You can center mount anything

[percs]

im tired of people saying you cant go way in front of the factory line. ive done it with qsts, benchetlers, and black ops, outsiders and they all ski great and i take them everywhere. ill ski any cliff any steep any rail whatever /claim. i think you guys think too much about it.

 

[Non_State_Actor]

Truth.

 

[Liamsasd]

Preach

 

[PartyBullshiit]

Shot fired [tag=290799]@Voyage86[/tag]

 

[percs]

Shot fired [tag=290799]@Voyage86[/tag]

hes the typical average ski user. not into pushing his boundaries but being comfortable and up to date on the mountain. He also skis in wisconsin so his double blacks are greens. i take his opinion on gear like i take a 4 year olds advice on the stock market. Heres an excerpt from one of his receent threads,

"im a simple midwest boy who has only skied pow 2 times. last week i was in park city and we got about 5 inches of fresh. it was blissful surfing untill the third day when the pow got wind packed. to my Illinois eye it almost looked better than normal pow. so nice and smooth. but as soon as i dropped in i was fighting for my life, catching an edge every time i took a breath. so, for people who really aren’t familiar with variable snow, what other conditions may look great to the untrained eye but are actually pretty difficult?"

he has no business recommending how skis should be manufactured lmao

 

[Shifty_God]

?

 

[IsaacNW82]

Yea I remember center mounting a pair of clapped volkl Mantras i bought for a 4-pack of heady topper like 10 years ago. I mean, it still skied, it wasn't the best, but it was good enough to hit rails and ski switch on til i destroyed them

 

[Voyage86]

howly moly, for the record i don’t currently own a pair of skis that isn’t mounted way infront of the rec line, got one pair at +8, one at +4.5 and one pair at +3 and secondly i’ve been skiing for more than half my life. i’m a good skier I feel like i have a very good understanding of how the shape and build of a ski effects how it skis. I don’t understand why simply wanting to mount a ski both where it’s meant to be mounted and also where I want it to be mounted discredits me. I think what i proposed with ski design is a sick idea and there is no reason why it can’t work. I usually go out west or east at least once a year and rip double blacks and bowls and all you can think of so don’t worry about my midwest legs. but ya you’re a dick

 

[maaattt]

That doesn't mean anything for 3 out of the 4 skis you posted lol.

 

[hi_vis360]

Center mount some slalom skis

 

[percs]

That doesn't mean anything for 3 out of the 4 skis you posted lol.

shh lol i mean it kinda does according to voyage

 

[Voyage86]

shh lol i mean it kinda does according to voyage

??‍ have never said anything ever that would allude anyone to think that i’m against center mounting a ski, again 2 of my 3 skis are center mounted and neither are supposed to be. genuinely sniff a fart

**This post was edited on Apr 5th 2024 at 8:54:21pm

 

[mrk127]

Yes but mounting -2cm back from center is better imo. When you think about the forward lean of boots, if you are 2cm back the front of your shin is right about at the center of the ski

 

[percs]

??‍ have never said anything ever that would allude anyone to think that i’m against center mounting a ski, again 2 of my 3 skis are center mounted and neither are supposed to be. genuinely sniff a fart

**This post was edited on Apr 5th 2024 at 8:54:21pm

heres you in ur other thread:

"I want something that is meant to be skied in the -0 to -3 range. those all got recs around -7 and i just don’t want to mount at +5"

see ur making a big deal about mounting at +5 from factory because the skis arent "meant" for it im saying its not that big of deal and that wouldnt stop me and im a better skier than you.

**This post was edited on Apr 5th 2024 at 10:08:52pm

**This post was edited on Apr 5th 2024 at 10:11:55pm

 

[ski_salmon69]

im tired of people saying you cant go way in front of the factory line. ive done it with qsts, benchetlers, and black ops, outsiders and they all ski great and i take them everywhere. ill ski any cliff any steep any rail whatever /claim. i think you guys think too much about it.

Outsiders are meant to be center mounted

 

[percs]

Outsiders are meant to be center mounted

ig

 

[BallClapper]

Molly, Percocet, Molly, Percocet.

 

[Voyage86]

heres you in ur other thread:

"I want something that is meant to be skied in the -0 to -3 range. those all got recs around -7 and i just don’t want to mount at +5"

see ur making a big deal about mounting at +5 from factory because the skis arent "meant" for it im saying its not that big of deal and that wouldnt stop me and im a better skier than you.

**This post was edited on Apr 5th 2024 at 10:08:52pm

**This post was edited on Apr 5th 2024 at 10:11:55pm

bro it has nothing to do with weather it can be done or not, I feel like your ignoring everything i’ve already said in this thread about my skis and how i have them mounted. but for this next pair i want them to be carving oriented and skis for sure do carve better when they are mounted in the middle of the side cut. but even still I just want a ski that’s meant to be skied near center. why is that such a crime and you’re an ass hole

 

[percs]

next pair i want them to be carving oriented

carving oriented lmao this is ns buddy

 

[Voyage86]

carving oriented lmao this is ns buddy

bro what is wrong with you?? did you forget the part about it being a twin tip with a near center mount? the whole point is that i want a ski that rips carves but can also comfortably throw tricks and be more playful than your average all mountain carver.

 

[percs]

bro what is wrong with you?? did you forget the part about it being a twin tip with a near center mount? the whole point is that i want a ski that rips carves but can also comfortably throw tricks and be more playful than your average all mountain carver.

bro ur stupid center mounted park skis already are good at carving

 

[sicbith]

howly moly, for the record i don’t currently own a pair of skis that isn’t mounted way infront of the rec line, got one pair at +8, one at +4.5 and one pair at +3 and secondly i’ve been skiing for more than half my life. i’m a good skier I feel like i have a very good understanding of how the shape and build of a ski effects how it skis. I don’t understand why simply wanting to mount a ski both where it’s meant to be mounted and also where I want it to be mounted discredits me. I think what i proposed with ski design is a sick idea and there is no reason why it can’t work. I usually go out west or east at least once a year and rip double blacks and bowls and all you can think of so don’t worry about my midwest legs. but ya you’re a dick

Sorry to say it….. you don’t understand ski design, or how to design products for multiple users. What rips for you on man made snow, on a 25 degree pitch, 300’ vert mountain at 500’ above sea level is different than what rips on 50 degree pitch, 2000’ vert, at 9000’ above sea level. Can’t have the best of both worlds my man. Ask how many athletes on the FWT are at +8… woof……

 

[sicbith]

bro it has nothing to do with weather it can be done or not, I feel like your ignoring everything i’ve already said in this thread about my skis and how i have them mounted. but for this next pair i want them to be carving oriented and skis for sure do carve better when they are mounted in the middle of the side cut. but even still I just want a ski that’s meant to be skied near center. why is that such a crime and you’re an ass hole

One again. You don’t understand ski design. I will say, 100% of the best carving skiers, on the best carving skis are not mounted close to the middle of the ski, or middle of the side cut bub.

 

[migidimigi]

im tired of people saying you cant go way in front of the factory line. ive done it with qsts, benchetlers, and black ops, outsiders and they all ski great and i take them everywhere.

This is the most NS flex I've ever seen lmao

 

[Farmville420]

You can center mount anything but you don't really gain anything

 

[AndImOut]

They told me I couldn’t center mount bent 90s. I did it anyway, and ion notice anything. Pisses me off because I’ve had ski shops refuse to center mount my skis.

 

[Angioedema]

imo its just all in your head, i could mount your skis on rec and you probably wouldnt even notice that it isnt centre

PS also chill with the hate vibes all forms of skiing is better than no skiing and if you dont believe me you're probably just hardstuck in progression

**This post was edited on Apr 6th 2024 at 6:12:25pm

 

[Voyage86]

bro ur stupid center mounted park skis already are good at carving

wont ever keep up with a more dedicated carving ski bro. just a stupid thing to say

 

[Voyage86]

Sorry to say it….. you don’t understand ski design, or how to design products for multiple users. What rips for you on man made snow, on a 25 degree pitch, 300’ vert mountain at 500’ above sea level is different than what rips on 50 degree pitch, 2000’ vert, at 9000’ above sea level. Can’t have the best of both worlds my man. Ask how many athletes on the FWT are at +8… woof……

i feel like you either aren’t reading or are vastly misunderstanding everything going on here, anyway, really low Iq stuff out of you lately, it’s disappointing

 

[Voyage86]

One again. You don’t understand ski design. I will say, 100% of the best carving skiers, on the best carving skis are not mounted close to the middle of the ski, or middle of the side cut bub.

that is totally wrong bro what are you talking about, it’s all about the side cut.

 

[percs]

They told me I couldn’t center mount bent 90s. I did it anyway, and ion notice anything. Pisses me off because I’ve had ski shops refuse to center mount my skis.

Fr techs always taking it personal when u ask for true center ?

 

[percs]

You can center mount anything but you don't really gain anything

But you do gain something if you hit rails and ski switch ? FarmVille ily

 

[percs]

wont ever keep up with a more dedicated carving ski bro. just a stupid thing to say

Keep up?? Bro I’ll put on some detuned center mounted 177cm future spins and we can go on whatever gs course u want we’ll see if u can keep up with your “dedicated carving skis” how does that sound

 

[Farmville420]

But you do gain something if you hit rails and ski switch ? FarmVille ily

Every rail lord that i know rides -2.5cm minimum, the best rail skier I know rides factory, you get more out of non sym skis when you mount at the center of the camber, also I ride sw alot and if you ride sw proper you stagger your footing and lean forward a little so it doesn't make any difference. As for rails, I have done some techy rail tricks on skis mounted -4.5cm, trust me I'm not trying to be condescing asshole I just truly believe it doesn't make a difference at all

 

[carretta]

truth

very little lost on rails and a solid amount of all mountain performance lost; depending on the ski and how far back obvi

OP needs to learn how to drive the tips and actually use a ski to its full potential

Every rail lord that i know rides -2.5cm minimum, the best rail skier I know rides factory, you get more out of non sym skis when you mount at the center of the camber, also I ride sw alot and if you ride sw proper you stagger your footing and lean forward a little so it doesn't make any difference. As for rails, I have done some techy rail tricks on skis mounted -4.5cm, trust me I'm not trying to be condescing asshole I just truly believe it doesn't make a difference at all

 

[mrk127]

bro ur stupid center mounted park skis already are good at carving

Keep up?? Bro I’ll put on some detuned center mounted 177cm future spins and we can go on whatever gs course u want we’ll see if u can keep up with your “dedicated carving skis” how does that sound

Lmao if you think park skis carve well you don't actually know how to carve

 

[hi_vis360]

If only mikaela shiffrin would listen to the wise words of newschoolers members she could be ripping slalom on center mounted skis and taking her skiing to the next level

 

[KilaTsunami]

OP was right until he admitted to riding bent chetlers ???????????

 

[Voyage86]

Keep up?? Bro I’ll put on some detuned center mounted 177cm future spins and we can go on whatever gs course u want we’ll see if u can keep up with your “dedicated carving skis” how does that sound

your ego just hurts to read at this point

 

[percs]

voyage shut ur mouth ur shit at skiing

 

[percs]

well ill beat mikalae cause shes a girl so

 

[percs]

OP was right until he admitted to riding bent chetlers ???????????

speaking of my ego and benchetlers heres my nbd riding benchelers (true center btw)

[video]998807[/video]

**This post was edited on Apr 7th 2024 at 9:35:27am

 

[Voyage86]

voyage shut ur mouth ur shit at skiing

gata be the gayest fucker on here

 

[KungKalmar]

gata be the gayest fucker on here

There are million of different words to use as an insult and you decided use "gayest". You don't have insult people like [tag=279454]@fabbe[/tag] , there is nothing wrong being gay.

 

[percs]

Every rail lord that i know rides -2.5cm minimum, the best rail skier I know rides factory, you get more out of non sym skis when you mount at the center of the camber, also I ride sw alot and if you ride sw proper you stagger your footing and lean forward a little so it doesn't make any difference. As for rails, I have done some techy rail tricks on skis mounted -4.5cm, trust me I'm not trying to be condescing asshole I just truly believe it doesn't make a difference at all

ok but landing switch in pow its nice to be more center

 

[percs]

i regret making this thread tbh but im glad ive got to roast voyage twice

 

[SchizoSkier]

ok but landing switch in pow its nice to be more center

Landing big shit in deep pow on center mount with a 4 point stomp is not the move because u just dive nose down and tomahawk

 

[sicbith]

i feel like you either aren’t reading or are vastly misunderstanding everything going on here, anyway, really low Iq stuff out of you lately, it’s disappointing

Throw all your ski design smarts out there bub, you certainly have us all listening. I get it you want a light, playful, all mtn twin that rails turns, all while having a mount point that is visually appealing to you. But you don’t understand materials, sidecut related to flex, torsional balance or most of the other really important metrics must be blended to build a ski. What you are asking for in a ski, by design work against each other, but u be u buddy. I’ll just hold my breath for the next level iq smfart stuff.

 

[Voyage86]

Throw all your ski design smarts out there bub, you certainly have us all listening. I get it you want a light, playful, all mtn twin that rails turns, all while having a mount point that is visually appealing to you. But you don’t understand materials, sidecut related to flex, torsional balance or most of the other really important metrics must be blended to build a ski. What you are asking for in a ski, by design work against each other, but u be u buddy. I’ll just hold my breath for the next level iq smfart stuff.

ok ok, try your best to explain why this wouldn’t work in anyway. notice the only thing that has changed is the tail after the contact patch. this mock up right here is exactly what i want, so please go ahead and tell my why this works against itself. (the top ski in both views is unchanged)



**This post was edited on Apr 7th 2024 at 10:59:28am

 

[Voyage86]

There are million of different words to use as an insult and you decided use "gayest". You don't have insult people like [tag=279454]@fabbe[/tag] , there is nothing wrong being gay.

true, i’ll be more PC, my bad

**This post was edited on Apr 7th 2024 at 11:01:11am

 

[fabbe]

There are million of different words to use as an insult and you decided use "gayest". You don't have insult people like [tag=279454]@fabbe[/tag] , there is nothing wrong being gay.

can someone google translate this back to finnish and see what tf this means gangily. i dont understand this horrendous grammar... and i thought the finnish was supose to be one of the most proficient english speakers, outside of the the people who has it as their first language of course.