XXX Tentacion Death

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Hey NS, don't really know how to feel about his death. In some ways, he is exactly what I hate about the rap industry, someone really living the life he talked about. Domestic violence, assault ect. But in others, he had really begun to turn his life around. Didn't like his hard stuff that much, but he did have some incredible songs. I'm seeing all these comments saying "he deserves his death' or "he had it coming". I think this is appalling behaviour for anyone. I'm don't follow any religion for reference, but I feel that wishing death upon anyone is horrible.

I think everyone has done things they wish they didn't do, some more severe then others. People have dehumanised him, making him into more of an ideology rather than a human being. An ideology of hate, violence and general distaste. I feel like this is shit talking gone to the extreme, do people not have any respect anymore? Is this a thing people don't know? Rather than shit talking the deceased, isn't it best to just keep your mouth shut, at least for now and addressing it respectfully later? I personally thought that X was an incredibly talented musician, innovating in the genre, creating experiences for millions of people that can never be taken away. I just hope people remember him as his best. Sorry for the soppy shit, just hit me hard.
 
He deserved it just for his stupid fucking name...

...and beating women. He deserved it for that also.
 
Sounds like he was kind of a scumbag, but I'll be damned if I didn't get chills listening to "look at me" for the first time. Dude flew too close to the sun and got burnt.
 
It speaks volumes to me how impressionable a lot of the younger/current generation are or will become when it comes to these soundcloud rappers, social media, and a lot of other stuff. There's people genuinely upset and sad over his death which I sorta understand, but it goes to show how a lot of kids turn blind eyes to shit and don't want "their view" of their favorite peoples shaken up. People still played his shit constantly even with the grim details of what he did to his girlfriend that came out and all the other dumb shit he did, like saying shit like "I'm going to domestically abuse your underage sisters pussy" and how hes gonna "cum on your toddlers face" and other demonic dumb shit. He had such a giant audience, and that audience included people that wanna see you die and thats probably what happened. I mean, joe budden did warn once that this kind of stuff ends with someone getting shot in the face.

I understand why people relate to artists like this who clearly are battling mental health issues, but it just seems like he didn't really make an attempt to do anything about his issues. Like that was his "brand", the depressed moody emo rapper, and it sold well to a lot of people. At the same time, it also told people that its fine to abuse drugs and alcohol in order to cope with your issues which is a super toxic thing to promote. He let his problems run way too deep, it took over him, and he honestly just turned into a piece of shit, and used that to promote his music and for whatever reason people loved it.

Honestly if you're a young person who is battling issues and likes rap music, buys into these kinds of people, stop listening to these people promoting really bad ideas and go get help for yourself.
 
What he did for kids especially those with mental issues was inspiring.

**This post was edited on Jun 20th 2018 at 11:33:02am
 
Just listened to one of his songs for the first time (never heard of him before).

Kinda regret it. Tho somehow I knew exactly how it was gonna sound. IDK to each their own. I hate that music.
 
13928957:strayln_Skier said:
Just listened to one of his songs for the first time (never heard of him before).

Kinda regret it. Tho somehow I knew exactly how it was gonna sound. IDK to each their own. I hate that music.

Which song out of interest?
 
13928963:strayln_Skier said:
Tried to listen to a few on his Soundcloud.

CBF to go and look what they were called.

Just for reference, go and listen to SAD!, infinity (888), Changes, Hope from his album ? and let me know what you think. I was initially unimpressed with him but after listening to these, I was dumbfounded at the sheer talent he had. Definitely all emotionally driven songs. Even if you don't like the genre, I think acknowledging his talent is the minimum. The kid definitely had vision.
 
13928964:-arc- said:
Just for reference, go and listen to SAD!, infinity (888), Changes, Hope from his album ? and let me know what you think. I was initially unimpressed with him but after listening to these, I was dumbfounded at the sheer talent he had. Definitely all emotionally driven songs. Even if you don't like the genre, I think acknowledging his talent is the minimum. The kid definitely had vision.

Nope, I aint hearing ya. It's shit.
 
for all you saying he had it coming go fuck yourself no one deserves to die he had no idea it was coming. hes a human being whether he had a fucked up past or not.
 
13928937:colbyapplegate said:
What he did for kids especially those with mental issues was inspiring. Sorry if some of you 30 year old assholes don't understand what its like to struggle

Oh look, a stupid millennial who thinks his problems are unique. LOLOLOL grow the fuck up.
 
13928915:DeebieSkeebies said:
It speaks volumes to me how impressionable a lot of the younger/current generation are or will become when it comes to these soundcloud rappers, social media, and a lot of other stuff. There's people genuinely upset and sad over his death which I sorta understand, but it goes to show how a lot of kids turn blind eyes to shit and don't want "their view" of their favorite peoples shaken up. People still played his shit constantly even with the grim details of what he did to his girlfriend that came out and all the other dumb shit he did, like saying shit like "I'm going to domestically abuse your underage sisters pussy" and how hes gonna "cum on your toddlers face" and other demonic dumb shit. He had such a giant audience, and that audience included people that wanna see you die and thats probably what happened. I mean, joe budden did warn once that this kind of stuff ends with someone getting shot in the face.

I understand why people relate to artists like this who clearly are battling mental health issues, but it just seems like he didn't really make an attempt to do anything about his issues. Like that was his "brand", the depressed moody emo rapper, and it sold well to a lot of people. At the same time, it also told people that its fine to abuse drugs and alcohol in order to cope with your issues which is a super toxic thing to promote. He let his problems run way too deep, it took over him, and he honestly just turned into a piece of shit, and used that to promote his music and for whatever reason people loved it.

Honestly if you're a young person who is battling issues and likes rap music, buys into these kinds of people, stop listening to these people promoting really bad ideas and go get help for yourself.

While I do agree, I dont think that kids now are wildly more impressionable than previous generations. I think that the emergence of fake news allows people to justify any viewpoint by using a quick a google search to confirm exactly what they think.

Secondly, while xxx's music was a new style, the controversial side of it isnt new. Espicially not in music. I mean look at Eminem. The man used to only talk about drug abuse, wanting to kill (gays), and a myriad of other topics not dissimilar from XXX.

Its successful and relatable because a large amount of the youth have dark thoughts as well. If you put that into a song it connects imediately.

I dont think that he deserved to be killed. This is not justifying his actions but he was young, had suicide surrounding him, and clearly had mental health issues that needed to be treated but instead were ignored. People will argue about what part of the accusations were true and false, which is silly because an abuser is still an abuser whether your girlfriend is pregnant or not.

What's sad is that we will never be able to see if he would have changed. He seemed to be heading in a positive direction with massive donations and community outreach. I couldnt tell you if that is just to cover his ass or if it was genuine.

In the end I dont like all the "woke" Twitter warriors talking about how he should have been killed slowly or other terrible things. Its easy to judge a dead man, and it's okay to. But its definetly less than classy to say you wanted a 20 yr old to die a slow death or get shot more just for some retweets.

Idk

Again, not defending his actions just making a point.

**This post was edited on Jun 20th 2018 at 10:34:37am
 
13928937:colbyapplegate said:
What he did for kids especially those with mental issues was inspiring. Sorry if some of you 30 year old assholes don't understand what its like to struggle

Yeah man I’ve never struggled before because I’m old and don’t listen to shitty rap. Totally. Right.

**This post was edited on Jun 20th 2018 at 11:15:19am
 
13928915:DeebieSkeebies said:
Honestly if you're a young person who is battling issues and likes rap music, buys into these kinds of people, stop listening to these people promoting really bad ideas and go get help for yourself.
13928977:Lonely said:
Its successful and relatable because a large amount of the youth have dark thoughts as well. If you put that into a song it connects imediately.

**This post was edited on Jun 20th 2018 at 10:34:37am

This is the part of this whole thing that I just don't understand. It's honestly astonishing to me how many people my age I've seen on social media saying how much x's music did for them in terms of helping with mental issues.

Like a lot of people, I've dealt with some mental problems, and like everyone in the world, I've had family and close friends that have had to deal with these issues.

And thats exactly why I'm starting to doubt all of this aforementioned kids. While x's music sure does connect with those with dark thoughts and battling mental problems, I really, really don't think it does anything to actually help. Music is extremely powerful, and can swing moods in an instant. When I'm in a bad state (and I've talked to a bunch of people about this) the literal LAST thing I want to do is listen to music about loneliness/depression/glorifying self harm/violence.

As much as I don't want to doubt these kids and what they could possibly be going through, it's starting to cast some doubt in my mind if they're lying about issues they're having for attention and therefore undermining people struggling with real issues.

I truly hope this isn't the case for the kids, and rather, it's more along the lines of they can't really get the right guidance of help that they need, and somehow this type of music is some sort of help to them.

I am the type of person to cast doubt on everything I hear, so take this with a grain of salt.
 
13929072:SammyDubz said:
This is the part of this whole thing that I just don't understand. It's honestly astonishing to me how many people my age I've seen on social media saying how much x's music did for them in terms of helping with mental issues.

Like a lot of people, I've dealt with some mental problems, and like everyone in the world, I've had family and close friends that have had to deal with these issues.

And thats exactly why I'm starting to doubt all of this aforementioned kids. While x's music sure does connect with those with dark thoughts and battling mental problems, I really, really don't think it does anything to actually help. Music is extremely powerful, and can swing moods in an instant. When I'm in a bad state (and I've talked to a bunch of people about this) the literal LAST thing I want to do is listen to music about loneliness/depression/glorifying self harm/violence.

As much as I don't want to doubt these kids and what they could possibly be going through, it's starting to cast some doubt in my mind if they're lying about issues they're having for attention and therefore undermining people struggling with real issues.

I truly hope this isn't the case for the kids, and rather, it's more along the lines of they can't really get the right guidance of help that they need, and somehow this type of music is some sort of help to them.

I am the type of person to cast doubt on everything I hear, so take this with a grain of salt.

I guess in my experience (this doesnt necessarily pertain to xxx) the best way to deal with depression is to talk about it or have someone else talk about it.

The dangerous part of depression is the loneliness and the self loathing. You think you're alone and that the way you feel is your fault. Any Psychologist will tell you that keeping that bottled up is about the worse thing you can do for yourseld.

Some people open up to others but many people dont feel comfortable with that. As a musician music was always a let off for me. Whether I'm playing or listening. When you hear someone rich and famous talking about feelings that you relate to it kinda makes everything feel alright. Cuz if someone that badass/awesome/rich then stuff seems like less of an issue.

When I was a troubled kid in middleschool counseling didnt fo shot for me. What chilled me out was listening to someone else be angry/upset about something else. To be cliche I see it like multiplying negatives.

I'd love to talk about this in more depth cuz I think music can have a pretty profound effect on some people.

Unfortunately I'm at work on a cell phone with shitty service
 
13928968:shredasaurus said:
for all you saying he had it coming go fuck yourself no one deserves to die he had no idea it was coming. hes a human being whether he had a fucked up past or not.

dude, you're actually fucking braindead.
 
13929114:B.Gillis said:
Yah can’t say I ever listened to his songs before he died. Don’t think any of the songs I’ve heard are anything special.

However if you make millions and show that shit off while continuing to hang out in crime ridden areas you might as well put a bullseye on your back.

No one deserves to have their life taken from them. It’s sad when someone gets murdered over nothing regardless of what they did in their past.

This is the perfect summation of how I feel.
 
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Wat the fuck ahahahahaha xxxtentacion v2 ahahha baby's prob gonna assault the moms womb too while he's in there ???
 
He was a bit of a strange character but I’m genuinely gutted that he’s dead because he made some bangers.
 
13929072:SammyDubz said:
And thats exactly why I'm starting to doubt all of this aforementioned kids. While x's music sure does connect with those with dark thoughts and battling mental problems, I really, really don't think it does anything to actually help. Music is extremely powerful, and can swing moods in an instant. When I'm in a bad state (and I've talked to a bunch of people about this) the literal LAST thing I want to do is listen to music about loneliness/depression/glorifying self harm/violence.

Well I do listen to sad music when I'm in a bad mood. Not for the fact that I feel connected, but I simply feel comforted and I am able to kinda release that shit on my mind better.

Following your words I would have to listen to depressed music when I'm happy, but especially with the argument, that music can change moods within a second, why the fuck would I do that?

**This post was edited on Jun 26th 2018 at 10:21:05am
 
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