distance wise i agree with the buck fifty at keystone, the only problem with it last year was it started out in 5 sections, and when they welded it together they did a realy shitty job of it, so almost no one could make it! but for those of you who care it will be back this year so i can watch all of you hike that thing all day and see one guy make it! jhonathan i know youll have it down by the end of the season, you live here. as for dificulity id say the roller coaster s rail at copper i nevere ever all season saw one person sjier or snowboarder make it, it will be there as well this year, i wanna see somone make that!