i have a pair of 185 jjs that are for sale. i believe 06 the first year of the new design. they have been ridin 4 season but still in good shape. i have some cuts out of the bottom that ahve been ptexed and grinded down then had a new base pattern done on it so they are almost like new. and the edges are in great shape other then one bigger chunk on the edge behind the bindings that i epoxied to seal it up and grinded down so look good. i have mounted them twice for a 27 and 26 shell at recommended with griffons. can sell both for $500 plus shipping and even mount them to your boot for free. you'll have to twik it abit after you get it with the din and stuff tho. thewhiteroom