Worst Bootfitter, EVER.

So, i go into my shop to check out some boots today and since i have a long narrow foot , i decided i would try on the hotdoggers - good flex, intuition and good reviews.

So the guy measures my foot and thinks he knows what he is talking about. I wear a size 12 shoe and he buts me in a fucking 28 shell. I've tried it on before and i had no chance of fitting so i decided to test the guys knowledge. He gives me the boot to try on and that's what i did. i tried it on and the guy had to help me put on the bottom cable. he then said that that's how boots fit and that they would be tight like that at the beginning, like every other new boot. Dude, the boot is the wrong fucking size.... he then says after i took the boot off that it will get better with time skiing with them. At this point i told him that i needed to try on the 29, so he said sure.

I then tried the boot on and it felt great. He hen begins to ask me how experienced at riding i am and i tell him that I'm a level 3. He had no fucking clue what that meant and asked me if i was a beginner, intermediate or advanced skier, and i said advanced. " this boot will be good because it's for experienced riders since it is stiff." At this point I'm laughing in my head because the guy had no clue what he is talking about. He said that it was as stiff as the Ace of Spades, a boot that he has no experience with and that isn't even carried in the shop.

Next he tells me that If i don't like the Ft's, I should try on SPK's. Jesus Christ. I tell him that i had the kreations 2 years ago and they fitted like shit and he simply told me that both the spk's and hotdogger's are similar in shape and last. He says that they are only a couple of milometers off and that it hardly makes a difference. I then decided to shut up and let him talk for 10 more mins because i did not want to point out everything that he was saying.

I take off the boots and i told him that i was going to go try on the Ace of Spades at their other shop and he said yeah, good idea, they'll fit the same. So i said peace and left the shop

To sum things up, the guy was the perfect example of a bad boot fitter points to the fact that bootfitters should have more knowledge about the boots before being hired as a boot fitter. Never going back to that shop to get fitted. Plus i can get the boots somewhere else for $75 cheaper.

.:. If you have more knowledge than a boot fitter and he says that your thin foot will fit fin in an spk, then leave asap.

 
Had the same thing happen to me. The dude tried to sell me SPK Kid Pros-which are insanely flexy, and tried to convince me that that was pretty stiff for a park boot. I told him my SPK Kreations were twice as stiff. Dude was straight dumb.
 
funniest thing is I have 2 pairs of FT's both perfect size. Guess what I wear size 12 shoes and wear a 28 FT, 318 MM. btw I'm a bootfitter at the shop I work at and you my friend are an idiot. Even though the bootfitter in your story still wasn't smart, your criticizing of his size choice isn't justified. You know how many kids I measure and fit boots on thinking they have massive feet, only to deflate there ego by telling them they are in actuality a size 9 or 10 boot at best....
 
well he was right in one aspect, boots are supposed to fit too tight at the start because the shells will pack out and fit bigger after skiing them.
 
this might be worst story ever mixed with ultimate fail on trying to bash a bootfitter for sizing him up wrong, when in actuality he was more then likely right.... LOL
 
Yep.

Why do you need a boot fitter if you know more than they possibly could? You sound like a whiney bitch, that guy was either A) helping you despite the fact that you were acting like a self-absorbed asshole, or B) fucking with you because you were acting like a self-absorbed asshole.

At least try to be helpful and their job will go a lot smoother, I don't see how anyone could possibly help someone like you, regardless of how good they were.
 
also with intuition liners.. they will fit to your foot and if the boot is at all to big (which i can tell you for a fact 29.0 is to big) then you will have a gap between your liners and your boots. and get hella toe/shinbang.
 
comes down to preference on fit of shoe. A boot is meant to be supportive and fit correctly. Alot of us wear bigger shoes then needed, its comfy and easy. Something which a ski boot should not be. If you wear shoes that are tight then chances are you'll be with a half size to full size within ski boot size I find.
 
im going to have to go with the bootfitter on this one my hot doggers felt too small till they where heat molded.
 
i was just about to argue the sizing, then realised american sizing is +1 to UK size

im size 9 UK and rock 27.5 hot doggers
 
that seems about right. a 27 HD will fit like a 26 in other brands. For those who don't know FT will run a size bigger. For example a 27.5 spk will be a 317 I believe when a FT 28.5 is 318...
 
Yeah, I think the fitter was probably messing with you after you went up a size for comfort...you sound like a douche.
 
Intuition liners definitely make it hard to close the boot before it's been moulded, so lots of people need help with them. Along those lines, if the boots feels perfect before you've molded it, good chance it's a little big, it'll pack out too much. i'll admit that your story made it seem like the guy knew nothing about freestyle boots (similar last on hot doggers and spks?) but it still seemed like he knew more about ski boots in general than you think you do
 
you guys are both silly. A shoe size really isn't relevant because chances are you wear too big of shoes. How big are your feet in cms? Did he measure your feet. If you want a boot that performs you will wear it small. I wear size 9.5 shoes, my foot measure just under 26 I wear a 24.5 boot. I get them punched and they do pack out.
 
but he gave me a 27 spk to ..

what should i go with beacause the hd dindt fit that narrow like others told me it would
 
lol...I wear a 10 shoe every day, and a 26.5 ski boot that's not even tight at this point.

 
he doesn't sound that bad. I wouldn't know what the fuck a "type 3" skier is. If somebody asked my what type of skier I was I wouldn't reply "3". Also I wear a 8.5-9 shoe and wore a 24 full tilt. My buddy wears size 12 shoes and wears a 28 boot. Obviously it's gonna feel tight in the store.
 
It goes both ways. Do your research and get recommendations for a great bootfitter. I've had a couple bad bootfitters before, but more often I've overheard bootfittings with buyers who are absolute idiots whose only goal is to glean as much information out of the bootfitter as possible before buying the boot online. You can't imagine all the shit bootfitters have to deal with.
 
The guy had next to no knowledge. If He was a "Certified Boot fitter" , then I'm sure he would of done a better job guiding me in the right direction. If I have a big fucking foot then why would he put me in such a small boot. I'm pretty sure anyone who has basic knowledge in boots could have done as good of a job if not better job then he did with me. Self absorbed, far from it. Maybe Ft's fit bigger, but as a boot fitter, the guy should know based off the measurements of my foot that it was the wrong boot. didn't say a single snarky remark to the guy, i even thanked him for his help.
 
Yeah, at first I thought you were talking about your instructor level... anyway if you knew so much, why bothering him?
 
i put way more work and research into the store/person whose gonna be fitting the boot than the boot itself. they really shouldn't even ask you what your shoe size is because its almost irrelevant.
 
making the point that people should have more knowledge with boots if they want to become a boot fitter. I'm not going to tell the guy that he was shit at what he was doing, he sounded like he was having a good day, didn't want to ruin it for him.
 
not necessarily true. correct me when im wrong bsl doesnt mean anything when comparing the two boots because they have entirely different lining mechanisms.
 
Im a size 9.5 shoe and wear a 25 boot. So he was more than likely right, and you were just pissed cause you thought YOU knew it all...
 
To the op, have you considered that the fact did not do up was infact thats its the wrong boot for you, rather then the right size. So long as the boot fitter shell checked the boot and was happy with the fit, if it did not do up it may be just that the liners need molding or that you have a bigger foot then you think.

He does not sound like the best fitter, but I think you should really have given him more of a chance and not dictated the fitting process to him.
 
he did the shellcheck after i said it was too small. there was no way the boot was fitting even with the heated liners. And i did give him a chance. I never interrupted the boot fitting process. The boot would not buckle, so how is it going to fit? I never told him what he was doing was wrong, i let him go with it. He was just inexperienced imo and he should be trained to fit people.
 
you might know more than me, but i thought mondo sizing was just add 18 to us sizes.

and OP, i wear a 12 (12.5 for certain shoes), and i bought some 28.5 spks. altho im kinda regrettin it now
 
sorry man, but we all have to go through the terrible boots phase to get to the Full Tilt phenomenon. I had SPK's last year. NEVER AGAIN.
 
yeah, I'm a little shit because I go to a "certified Boot Fitter" to get "boot fitted", meanwhile the guy does not know what he is doing. Makes me a little shit right because i sat there and listened to what he had to say the whole time. Didn't argue with him at all.
 
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