Why not climb MT. Everest

You do realize if someone attempted to bring someone down from the mountain they would almost 100% die themselves? Some of those bodies are from people who tried to save one another..
 
Yes I do...but some of the bodies are left in the first advanced camp up the mountain...I can understand why the others were left.
 
I personally know a guy that attempted Everest. He would've been the oldest American to reach the summit, but his guide made him turn around 200 vertical feet from the summit because he was getting summit fever and if he would have reached the summit he wouldn't have had the strength to go back down.

He told me that he had to sign a bunch of forms (obviously) and one basically said that if he died he wouldn't be brought down.

It's not that the other climbers are screwing over the dead, it's just that it's too dangerous.
 
Really neat stuff. And yes like mentioned, the amount of manpower it would take to remove some of those bodies is impossible at the altitude and location that they lie.
 
A lot of people don't like it but the book Into Thin Air is really great. Gives a lot of insight as to just how gnarly it is to be up there. I haven't even been there but just looking at those photos I know why they're left there. It's almost impossible to be there just as yourself, let alone dragging a rock solid body across difficult terrain. try it even at sea level. Well, actually don't; twenty to life
 
I honestly don't give a fuck how high it is, how cold it is, how tired you are; you don't abandon someone to die. The folks who walked past the dying need to re-examine their self. I wouldn't cross the street next to one of them let alone climb a mountain.

 
I just don't think I could walk past someone dying and not do anything... Well at least I like to think I wouldn't.

I guess it's only something you can understand when you experience it.
 
there is a large difference between pounding a bottle of pain killers in a locked bathroom and succumbing to death while attempting to save another. If you can not tell the difference, yo have my pity.
 
man there should be a big banner at the top of the forums that says CHECK REDDIT FIRST CAUSE IF IT'S POSTED THERE NOBODY HERE CARES
 
you can't be serious....even rescue divers, firefighters, etc. won't attempt a rescue when death is the guaranteed outcome. do they need to re-examine themselves as well?

 
there it is

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No one needs to re-examine themselves. If you decide to try to climb Everest, then you know that death might be the outcome. When you are in an environment that extreme, it become survival of the fittest (to an extent.) Many times as well, even if they did try to save someone, they would eventually die anyway. It would take a person with extreme hypothermia an extended period of time to get off the mountain or to get somewhere they could passively warm up. If you read the accounts, many of the people could talk and respond but not move. They are practically already dead or extremely close to dying.
 
Ok first all all of you who posted are fucking pussies, second this happened in 2006 and if you know anything about climbing everest you would know that you usually need a guide to reach the top. david sharp did not have any sherpa guides and went alone, google search sherpa you hater. alright sharp was basically climbing everest alone which is retarded and he did not use oxygen, most climbers need bottled oxygen after they leave camp 3 on everest, very few climbers can reach camp 4 and the summit without bottled oxygen. if you join an expedition with IMG guides or himalayan experience they have never lost a climber, mid you these treks cost 60k+ but they have never lost a climber, if you try to climb everest with a shady trekking company you are taking a risk. BTW your all fucking troll

kiss my ass you pussies, I'm currently training to climb everest and google " jordon romero"
 
you also need to keep in mind that even if you could theoretically move someone off the summit to the highest base camp, theres not enough medical resources at the camp to save someone with advanced hypothermia
 
Congratulations, this is one of the stupidest, least coherent, most nonsensical rants I have ever read.
 
i agree with you for once. that shit is for animals, you should at least try.

now i know nothing about mountaineering but i bet half those deaths wouldnt happen if climbing everest wasn't some bullshit tourist attraction for rich people
 
Ima climb Everest before you, you fucking pussy bitch. And I'm gonna ski down it then fuck your mom.

Suck my nuts
 
And this is why everest has lost all its value in my eyes. Its just filled with a bunch of people who want to clmb it just to say theyve done it. paying a company a ton of money to drag your inexperienced ass up the tallest mountain in the world and then bragging about it is just kinda disrespectful to the feat itself. I hope you pull your head out of your ass sometime before you go attempt this shit, if you ever do.
 
"Member Since: March 18th 2012" Cobra's been here since '04. Post invalid.

That was actually a really sick article. I found it fascinating that some of the people that have died are now helping the living by serving as waypoints.

 
Disagree, it's not that simple Billy.

Performing a rescue even from a high camp on Mt. Everest is nearly impossible, and in many cases would probably endanger more people than it would help. Obviously you would have to examine the situation on a case by case basis but as the link shows there have been many instances where a successful rescue is extremely unlikely. Into Thin Air gives a controversial account of some of these instances but there are many more. One of the most central notions of mountaineering is vowing to be responsible for yourself. Realistically climbers that routinely rely on others will eventually die, which is why I don't really believe in most "guided" expeditions. The margin for error is extremely low.

Not saying that I would make the same judgement calls in that situation, but it is very easy to comment on/criticize the actions of high altitude mountaineers from the comfort of your couch. There are often a lot of factors that are difficult to assess and understand given the circumstances. Guided expeditions are often under considerable pressure to summit, given the ridiculously high prices thier clients pay for permits/services, which can lead to bad decision making.

Ed Viesturs' autobiography has some really excellent, valid discussion of this uggly side of mountaineering, if you're interested.
 
They should ban oxygen from the mountain, I know it seems sketchy but it would keep a lot of non-alpinists off the mountain and anyway oxygen is cheating!
 
The only reason you try to rescue someone from Everest is if they regularly give you BJ's, or if you want to commit suicide but want to save face and make it look like you were trying to be a hero.
 
And join date has little to no correlation to age. For all you know Cobra could be younger than you. I was pointing out that you joined six years after him and therefore have no ground to speculate on the quality of his 15,000 posts, most of which occurred before you even knew this site existed, you cheeky little shit.
 
Hansel: So I'm rappelling down Mount Vesuvius when suddenly I slip, and I start to fall. Just falling, ahh ahh, I'll never forget the terror. When suddenly I realize "Holy shit, Hansel, haven't you been smoking Peyote for six straight days, and couldn't some of this maybe be in your head?"Derek: And?

Hansel: And it was. I was totally fine. I've never even been to Mount Vesuvius.
 
This isnt anything new, there was a cool article written on it a while back, i believe they call it the dead zone. and lol at the people talking shit about the peoples partners and what not, you clearly know nothing about mountaineering..
 
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