Why does the media complain about trump rallies but not the riots?

14152647:ThaLorax said:
Says the person responding to TWO questions and not answering either one....

I know you won't actually take my response seriously, but I'll give it a crack anyway in hopes to get through.

People in poverty commit more crimes because of the way society is structured, and the history of systematic racism only makes it worse for POC. Their communities, social programs, and education, are usually severely underfunded. They're more likely to not be able to afford college tuition. They often have a tough enough time just putting food on the table, let alone paying for education. If you have no education, it's increasingly difficult to get a job in today's society. If you can't get a job, how else do you put food on the table? If they do have a job, they work 50+ hours a week just to pay rent and put food on the table.

What questions were asked of me? Mind quoting them? Can’t seem to find them here, just people getting butthurt because I quote statistics in response to your statistics.

In that entire paragraph you failed to answer the question. Is crime justified (or excusable) if you live in poverty? You didn’t need to write all that out, a simple yes or no would suffice.

It seems to me, aside from you clearly making the assumption that the vast majority of POC’s live in poverty, that you are conflating wealth inequality and class inequality with race inequality. There is no law that discriminates against a person based on race.

14152648:CLQ said:
I remember when i destroyed you with facts about systemic racism in America today and then you just ignored everything I said. Fuck off kid

You’ve made it pretty clear to anyone that still uses this site that you are wildly delusional, no need to reiterate. You keep “destroying” people buddy!
 
14152653:Charlie_Kelly said:
What questions were asked of me? Mind quoting them? Can’t seem to find them here, just people getting butthurt because I quote statistics in response to your statistics.

In that entire paragraph you failed to answer the question. Is crime justified (or excusable) if you live in poverty? You didn’t need to write all that out, a simple yes or no would suffice.

It seems to me, aside from you clearly making the assumption that the vast majority of POC’s live in poverty, that you are conflating wealth inequality and class inequality with race inequality. There is no law that discriminates against a person based on race.

You’ve made it pretty clear to anyone that still uses this site that you are wildly delusional, no need to reiterate. You keep “destroying” people buddy!

Widely delusional with all those facts and sources i use to back up my claims yet i've never once seen you post a source. STFU kid
 
14152654:CLQ said:
Widely delusional with all those facts and sources i use to back up my claims yet i've never once seen you post a source. STFU kid

You’re entire argument boiled down to how our education system is racist. I disagreed with you but stated how schools are funded needs to be reworked. You sound like a whiney bitch.
 
14152656:Charlie_Kelly said:
You’re entire argument boiled down to how our education system is racist. I disagreed with you but stated how schools are funded needs to be reworked. You sound like a whiney bitch.

Its funny because you didn't use any sources or even come up with an argument against what I was saying. All you said and continue to say is "You're wrong." Its honestly really pathetic that you can't seem to form an argument to defend your position.
 
14152619:Charlie_Kelly said:
Source pls.

United States Sentencing Commission - ussc.gov

These stats clearly show our justice system is racist by giving black people longer sentences than whites for same crimes, same priors. And it's 20%, not a rounding error, it's significant.

Now, explain to me how that's not systemic racism.
 
14152659:Monsieur_Patate said:
United States Sentencing Commission - ussc.gov

These stats clearly show our justice system is racist by giving black people longer sentences than whites for same crimes, same priors. And it's 20%, not a rounding error, it's significant.

Now, explain to me how that's not systemic racism.

WHY DON'T YOU ANSWER MY QUESTION1?!??! YOUR SOURCE DIRECTLY ANSWERING MY QUESTION DOESN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION!
 
14152659:Monsieur_Patate said:
United States Sentencing Commission - ussc.gov

These stats clearly show our justice system is racist by giving black people longer sentences than whites for same crimes, same priors. And it's 20%, not a rounding error, it's significant.

Now, explain to me how that's not systemic racism.

Thank you I’ll take a look.

14152665:skierman said:
WHY DON'T YOU ANSWER MY QUESTION1?!??! YOUR SOURCE DIRECTLY ANSWERING MY QUESTION DOESN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION!

He never asked me a question you troglodyte. But now that he replied with an actual source I’ll be reading into it. You can go back to your subpar trolling.
 
14152657:CLQ said:
Its funny because you didn't use any sources or even come up with an argument against what I was saying. All you said and continue to say is "You're wrong." Its honestly really pathetic that you can't seem to form an argument to defend your position.

What a convenient memory you have. You couldn’t link anything you posted to racism and none of the sources you posted made the claim that racism was behind the problem. Furthermore, after reading your sources and telling you that none of them referenced “systematic” racism you just flat out ignored me. The thread is still around proving this.
 
14152613:Monsieur_Patate said:
Systemic racism -> inequality of opportunity for black people -> black people are poorer -> higher criminality.

These are symptoms, fix the root problem and the rest will eventually follow.

If you want apple to apple stats showing that our justice system is very much racist:

- Black male offenders are 21.2 percent less likely than White male offenders to receive a non-government sponsored downward departure or variance.

- Black male offenders receive sentences on average 20.4 percent longer than similarly situated White male offenders.

**This post was edited on Jun 25th 2020 at 10:28:00am

This is probably why when over 100 Blacks in Chicago got shot including a 3yr old killed over Fathers day weekend BLM rushed in and helped support those communities.

Wait, actually they didnt give a shit.
 
14152680:SuspiciousFish said:
This is probably why when over 100 Blacks in Chicago got shot including a 3yr old killed over Fathers day weekend BLM rushed in and helped support those communities.

Wait, actually they didnt give a shit.

You're quoting me but actually not addressing anything I posted, I'll assume that it means we're in agreement that systemic racism is a fact and we can move past that.

Now onto BLM. Which again, has nothing to do with what I posted, but whatever, happy to switch topics. They're fighting police brutality and systemic racism, they're not a support group for mourning families, so I don't see why it should be their responsibility to support them?

How about you, why are you not supporting them? It's as much your responsibility as it is theirs.

Not sure what point you're trying to make tbh, you seem confused.
 
14152683:Monsieur_Patate said:
You're quoting me but actually not addressing anything I posted, I'll assume that it means we're in agreement that systemic racism is a fact and we can move past that.

Now onto BLM. Which again, has nothing to do with what I posted, but whatever, happy to switch topics. They're fighting police brutality and systemic racism, they're not a support group for mourning families, so I don't see why it should be their responsibility to support them?

How about you, why are you not supporting them? It's as much your responsibility as it is theirs.

Not sure what point you're trying to make tbh, you seem confused.

Yes and no. My point is not so much against yours but the fact that BLM takes a single social issue of police violence and creates a fantasy reality that Blacks are getting killed left and right which the stats dont show. The also have created a violent mob mentality that affects political decisions which is incredibly dangerous which is something we are seeing now in Atlanta with that cop charged with Murder which is total BS. This is not surprising since the founders have admitted they are trained Marxists.

Do we have systems in the US that are impacting the Black communities adversely? Yes. First of all the Federal Reserve has been sucking the country dry since 1913 and impacts lower economic classes far more. Also, yeah the CIA brought in cocaine to fuck up the hoods with Crack. Private prisons are fucked too.

We also have a massive fatherless problem in Black communities which has directly resulted in gang violence and death because there is no family structure. Only 38% of Black Children grow up with both parents today.

This is the stuff we should be talking about and things that people like Candance Owens and Denzel Washington try to bring attention too. Unfortunately there is this propaganda that minorities MUST vote democratic even though these same Democrat politicians have been fucking them over for decades and not giving a shit.

Anyway not necessary a post against yours but my .02.
 
14152679:Charlie_Kelly said:
What a convenient memory you have. You couldn’t link anything you posted to racism and none of the sources you posted made the claim that racism was behind the problem. Furthermore, after reading your sources and telling you that none of them referenced “systematic” racism you just flat out ignored me. The thread is still around proving this.

"Right from the get-go, this country created an unequal educational system, but the relationship between education, race and socioeconomic status becomes even more complex if you look at post-slavery America. The unequal system is based on a confluence of factors, including Jim Crow legislation in the South, the rise of residential segregation in northern states, and the limited role of the federal government in funding and overseeing public education...

In places in which the school districts are not classified as dependent and therefore not reliant on discretionary spending, the funding that supports schooling comes from taxation of the property values of homes.

There again lies the problem in relation to race and socioeconomic status because racialized communities tend to be segregated, and segregated communities tend to be poorer, and they tend to have lower rates of homeownership along with lower home values on average.

You have this situation in which lack of homeownership and the lower property values contribute to poorer or underfunded schools. Then this is exacerbated by the fact that we have a pretty shameful history of redlining that kept affordable mortgages and home improvement loans out of primarily Black neighborhoods.

And the thing is that this is all interconnected, which makes reforms difficult because they have to be pretty wide-reaching in order to address all of these issues."

https://news.temple.edu/news/2020-06-25/systemic-racism-has-led-education-disparities

So black people were poor and under educated in the 60's due to systemic racism and then segregated schools were banned. But those same schools are now underfunded which leads to black people getting a shittier education and are less likely to get out of poverty.
 
14152592:.MASSHOLE. said:
Because there's a lot of evidence around the transmission of COVID being worse indoors than out you dimwit.

Here's some anecdotal, real world, evidence- https://www.eater.com/2020/6/24/21301793/idaho-protests-vigils-did-not-contribute-to-coronavirus-spike-but-bars-did



Demonstrations and bar visits — in Ada County, Idaho, two kinds of outings that illustrate how drastically different SARS-CoV-2 transmission can look in contrasting environments across the United States.

There was no spike of COVID-19 cases associated with a June 2 vigil of 5,000 people, who gathered in front of the Idaho Capitol in honor of black Americans killed by police or vigilante violence, the Idaho Press reported last week. The vigil took place outside, the majority of attendees wore face masks, and few people spoke outside of preselected speakers. All of these factors can contribute to lower transmission of viral droplets. Protests in which people shout may pose higher risk of transmission, but attendees of those demonstrations also tend to wear masks.

Contrast that with the conditions at crowded bars: speaking and drinking in close quarters, fewer masks, and inhibitions lowered by alcohol can all create a more effective path for virus transmission. In Ada County, a cluster of 69 coronavirus cases was linked to people who visited bars mostly located in downtown Boise, according to the Idaho Press.

Idaho’s Central District Health announced on Monday that Boise and the larger Ada County, which moved to the final stage of reopening on June 13, will be reverting to the previous stage of reopening, following a spike in coronavirus cases. As part of that return to the previous stage, bars and nightclubs will be closed.



Hell, there's even a theory that the protests kept a lot of people at home and reduced transmission rates- https://www.nber.org/papers/w27408.pdf

But the here's the experts on the subject:

“Speech droplets disperse more rapidly into the space around us, and provided we practice physical distancing, the probability of transmission likely becomes lower,” said a spokesperson from the National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases (NIDDK).

A report by NIDDK outlines speech experiments conducted using high powered lasers. The experiments found that loud speech can lead to the release of thousands of oral fluid droplets per second. In the stagnant air environment created in their lab, the droplets stayed in the air for between eight and 14 minutes. Speech droplets, they say, rapidly dehydrate, shrinking in size, slowing their descent to the ground.

“The study showed that droplets can remain airborne for many minutes in a quiet box without much convection or other air currents. The researchers speculate that the droplets could remain in the air for longer stretches and potentially cover larger spaces in a real environment where there is plenty of air movement,” said a NIDDK spokesperson in a written response to questions submitted to the team.

You literally just googled and found the most left leaning bias website to get your info. That’s not balanced you child. Go back to playing legos
 
14152740:CLQ said:
"Right from the get-go, this country created an unequal educational system, but the relationship between education, race and socioeconomic status becomes even more complex if you look at post-slavery America. The unequal system is based on a confluence of factors, including Jim Crow legislation in the South, the rise of residential segregation in northern states, and the limited role of the federal government in funding and overseeing public education...

In places in which the school districts are not classified as dependent and therefore not reliant on discretionary spending, the funding that supports schooling comes from taxation of the property values of homes.

There again lies the problem in relation to race and socioeconomic status because racialized communities tend to be segregated, and segregated communities tend to be poorer, and they tend to have lower rates of homeownership along with lower home values on average.

You have this situation in which lack of homeownership and the lower property values contribute to poorer or underfunded schools. Then this is exacerbated by the fact that we have a pretty shameful history of redlining that kept affordable mortgages and home improvement loans out of primarily Black neighborhoods.

And the thing is that this is all interconnected, which makes reforms difficult because they have to be pretty wide-reaching in order to address all of these issues."

https://news.temple.edu/news/2020-06-25/systemic-racism-has-led-education-disparities

So black people were poor and under educated in the 60's due to systemic racism and then segregated schools were banned. But those same schools are now underfunded which leads to black people getting a shittier education and are less likely to get out of poverty.

“In the U.S., school funding comes from a combination of three sources. The balance varies from state to state but, on average, looks like this: 45 percent local money, 45 percent from the state and 10 percent federal...”

“To help poorer schools compensate for that local imbalance, some states have stepped in. In 2013, North Carolina provided two-thirds of its schools' funding.

"If we didn't have that, we'd be in pretty dire straits right now," says Rodney Shotwell, superintendent of Rockingham County Schools, a low-income, rural district along the state's northern border with Virginia.

This year, Rockingham got more than $5 million in extra state funding for its disadvantaged students. Shotwell says that money helped pay for teachers, instructional supplies, even custodians.”

”In 2011, plaintiffs from Sumter tried to prove that the state's school funding system wasn't just unfair but was also racially discriminatory. In addition to being mainly low-income, all of Sumter's students are African-American.

A federal judge excoriated Alabama's funding system in an 800-page opinion. Still, he found the plaintiffs were not entitled to relief from the court.”

”The nation's schools had become more racially integrated, certainly, but were still profoundly segregated: Poor kids, black and white alike, found themselves clustered in largely poor schools.”

These are all quotes from the article you cited in your response to me. Here’s the link:
https://www.npr.org/2016/04/18/474256366/why-americas-schools-have-a-money-problem

Only once does it mention racial discrimination, and it was a case that lost. My response to you (on page 3 of the thread) was that we have a funding issue with schools and that race doesn’t play a part. I then asked what your bleeding-heart would recommend we do to fix the system, but in typically idealistic liberal fashion you had not only nothing constructive to say but simply nothing at all.

But here’s some light reading for you, it highlights the only current laws and policies that actively allow for the discrimination of people based on their race, sex, ethnicity, gender, etc...:
https://www.americanbar.org/groups/...n-higher-education--relevance-for-today-s-ra/
 
Holy crap you guys are idiots of course Charlie kelly can’t answer all these questions at once from fools using ad hominems. Mob mentality, it’s very clear you guys aren’t thinking logically.

now, philosophically equality is inherently a bad thing to encourage aswell. Why you may ask? Well equality destroys the idea of the unique individual, which is in direct contrast to capitalist societies ideals in which people have to use their strengths in order to transcend and gain material heroism. Equality ignores the natural order of life, it ignores the subjective experience - in the long run it leads to a collapse of the collective psyche. Makes it weak and immobile. This will lead to the fall of America mark my words.

I don’t know why you guys aren’t more proud to be from gods country. I would love to live in a fly over state with a hilux whilst being able to open carry a glock in my safari land holster. Oh well, you guys can contribute to the collapse, I’ll stay comfy in NZ

**This post was edited on Jun 25th 2020 at 6:39:16pm
 
The Media is Controlled and Occupied by Satanic Pedophiles. However, this Cabal of Satanists are being Arrested, Executed, & Dismantled by Trump. And they're trying to throw every curve ball they can at Trump and this Nation (& the world) in order to Prevent & Stall their Demise. BUT they already lost. Obama, HRC, Soros, Bill Gates, Biden, etc have already all been executed. Truly the Media is pretty much last. But the Major Power Players Like the Rockefellers & Rothchilds etc have all been Executed by Military Tribune.
 
14152740:CLQ said:
"Right from the get-go, this country created an unequal educational system, but the relationship between education, race and socioeconomic status becomes even more complex if you look at post-slavery America. The unequal system is based on a confluence of factors, including Jim Crow legislation in the South, the rise of residential segregation in northern states, and the limited role of the federal government in funding and overseeing public education...

In places in which the school districts are not classified as dependent and therefore not reliant on discretionary spending, the funding that supports schooling comes from taxation of the property values of homes.

There again lies the problem in relation to race and socioeconomic status because racialized communities tend to be segregated, and segregated communities tend to be poorer, and they tend to have lower rates of homeownership along with lower home values on average.

You have this situation in which lack of homeownership and the lower property values contribute to poorer or underfunded schools. Then this is exacerbated by the fact that we have a pretty shameful history of redlining that kept affordable mortgages and home improvement loans out of primarily Black neighborhoods.

And the thing is that this is all interconnected, which makes reforms difficult because they have to be pretty wide-reaching in order to address all of these issues."

https://news.temple.edu/news/2020-06-25/systemic-racism-has-led-education-disparities

So black people were poor and under educated in the 60's due to systemic racism and then segregated schools were banned. But those same schools are now underfunded which leads to black people getting a shittier education and are less likely to get out of poverty.

White people are not guilty of creating the selection pressure Dynamics of historic sub saharan africa.

if you want to talk about blaming innocent people for the problems of others youre gonna have to eventually talk turkey to people like me who have a bad habit of murdering bullshit by the megaton.

**This post was edited on Jun 26th 2020 at 12:36:45am
 
14152878:X_ANKILLA said:
The Media is Controlled and Occupied by Satanic Pedophiles. However, this Cabal of Satanists are being Arrested, Executed, & Dismantled by Trump. And they're trying to throw every curve ball they can at Trump and this Nation (& the world) in order to Prevent & Stall their Demise. BUT they already lost. Obama, HRC, Soros, Bill Gates, Biden, etc have already all been executed. Truly the Media is pretty much last. But the Major Power Players Like the Rockefellers & Rothchilds etc have all been Executed by Military Tribune.

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I can't post my satirical Alex Jones rants anymore. Ankilla does it for me :(
 
14152537:Dolerogado said:
I’m unironically smarter than 99% of people around me. Mainly in creative and realistic thinking - without illusion.

"I'm not trolling" - you, one post up
 
14152768:Dolerogado said:
I don’t know why you guys aren’t more proud to be from gods country. I would love to live in a fly over state with a hilux whilst being able to open carry a glock in my safari land holster.

**This post was edited on Jun 25th 2020 at 6:39:16pm

So why dont you
 
One is a protest for the rights of a poorly treated and abused race of people that need, and deserve equality and respect and we’re all lucky they only protest and ask for the f***ing minimum human civil rights and equalities that trump’s group and many other rich powerful and all of racist West Virginia is trying to keep from them through many means including antagonistic threats , “shootings” for one.

The other is a govt organized event “promoting” ! “Allowing”! The increased spread of a virus, the increased hit on our loved ones and our economy , when they could have helped negate it and still had their event. They chose disrespect for life and for our people, they value the election of a baby pussy tyrant over life and constantly contradict themselves and do whatever to suit themselves for what applies at the time for their wants and needs not “ours”.

The trump group shuts us down, quarantines us, demands masks, all rightfully so , and then does not adhere to the protocols themselves, and are no different than the racist bullies in school, and the people who think we’ll it’s ok for me cause I’m better and cleaner than you but not for you and I’m entitled to ski and campaign and do what I want what’s left of this world is for us and all you will pay for it .

topic:Dolerogado said:
In terms of spreading covid.

blatant character assassination

**This thread was edited on Jun 24th 2020 at 4:36:41pm
 
14152521:DolanReloaded said:
The mainstream media fake news wants the viewer to think porsches and skyscrapers can be built with a fucking dictionary lol

It's also much easier to get a Porshe and a skyscraper when your dad was a multi millionaire
 
14153135:SavageBiff said:
One is a protest for the rights of a poorly treated and abused race of people that need, and deserve equality and respect and we’re all lucky they only protest and ask for the f***ing minimum human civil rights and equalities that trump’s group and many other rich powerful and all of racist West Virginia is trying to keep from them through many means including antagonistic threats , “shootings” for one.

The other is a govt organized event “promoting” ! “Allowing”! The increased spread of a virus, the increased hit on our loved ones and our economy , when they could have helped negate it and still had their event. They chose disrespect for life and for our people, they value the election of a baby pussy tyrant over life and constantly contradict themselves and do whatever to suit themselves for what applies at the time for their wants and needs not “ours”.

The trump group shuts us down, quarantines us, demands masks, all rightfully so , and then does not adhere to the protocols themselves, and are no different than the racist bullies in school, and the people who think we’ll it’s ok for me cause I’m better and cleaner than you but not for you and I’m entitled to ski and campaign and do what I want what’s left of this world is for us and all you will pay for it .

I don’t think the virus cares if you are protesting social injustice or rallying for your presidential hopeful.
 
14153140:Charlie_Kelly said:
I don’t think the virus cares if you are protesting social injustice or rallying for your presidential hopeful.

You're right, but going to a little league game during a pandemic is less important than going to the store during a pandemic. Going to a rally which can be rescheduled can wait until things die down, a protest for social injustice is more pressing imo
 
14153136:little1337 said:
It's also much easier to get a Porshe and a skyscraper when your dad was a multi millionaire

Just because your dad is a multi millionaire doesn’t mean you’ll be successful.
 
In other words, spreading the virus is ok if the politics are right.

14152495:sqeellicbic said:
The fact that the protests are outside and people wear masks makes a big difference. But nobody is denying that the protests are going to spread covid but look at the reason behind the protests vs trumps rallys.

One is to stand up for hundreds of year of racial injustice and the other is so the orange toddler can abuse his power for 4 more years.
 
14153142:little1337 said:
You're right, but going to a little league game during a pandemic is less important than going to the store during a pandemic. Going to a rally which can be rescheduled can wait until things die down, a protest for social injustice is more pressing imo

When you've just been told for the last 3 months that you shouldn't even go see your direct family. But now it's okay for 10k+ people to march you start to see the hypocrisy.

Yes there is hypocrisy on both sides as well. I found it hilarious that the same conservatives who were flexing their guns at state capitals during covid protests were then telling BLM protestors to obey the curfews set in place by cities.

Even if your heart is in the right place as to what you are protesting there is still spread.

**This post was edited on Jun 27th 2020 at 1:12:45pm
 
My thoughts are just show that Black Lives Matter by cops shooting/beating the white protestors on sight. Just leave the black people alone and it’s all good right? And the best part will be that they can’t die from covid.
 
They’re the same people who advocated for police in schools due to masks shootings who are now against police in the schools.

My previous post is also all about the hypocrisy, there is a silver lining to the trump rallies.

1-trumps numbers are dropping which is GREAT and part of that is bc of his rallies

2-maybe the rallies will spread COVID like wildfire and the frumpiest will while themselves out.

Either way, big orange baby is gonna cry when he loses.

14153171:Film. said:
When you've just been told for the last 3 months that you shouldn't even go see your direct family. But now it's okay for 10k+ people to march you start to see the hypocrisy.

Yes there is hypocrisy on both sides as well. I found it hilarious that the same conservatives who were flexing their guns at state capitals during covid protests were then telling BLM protestors to obey the curfews set in place by cities.

Even if your heart is in the right place as to what you are protesting there is still spread.

**This post was edited on Jun 27th 2020 at 1:12:45pm

**This post was edited on Jun 27th 2020 at 7:34:34pm
 
14153224:SavageBiff said:
They’re the same people who advocated for police in schools due to masks shootings who are now against police in the schools.

My previous post is also all about the hypocrisy, there is a silver lining to the trump rallies.

1-heirs numbers are dropping which is GREAT and part of that is bc of his rallies

2-maybe the rallies will spread COVID like wildfire and the frumpiest will while themselves out.

Either way, big orange baby is gonna cry when he loses.

Trump is the centipede bro

TRUMPTRAIN CHOOOO CHOOOO
 
Ya I could see him squirming around the floor of a dark damp place, makes sense

And it’s Orangerail 1 , the great stupid train traversing the USA on the way to dumbtown and every sears filled with each sheeple dumber than the person behind them

14153241:Dolerogado said:
Trump is the centipede bro

TRUMPTRAIN CHOOOO CHOOOO
 
14153244:SavageBiff said:
Ya I could see him squirming around the floor of a dark damp place, makes sense

And it’s Orangerail 1 , the great stupid train traversing the USA on the way to dumbtown and every sears filled with each sheeple dumber than the person behind them

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I mean the problems are all about classism. You sheep are too dumb to not see the corporations hoping into BLM for marketing purposes just like they did LGBT only this time it’s specifically to keep down those they claim to support.

People buying into that shit are fools.
 
The media is 90% controlled by Democrats, so they complain about everything Republicans do and nothing that Democrats do. You can't trust any story you see about Trump in the news.
 
14153367:Scaredwhiteboy said:
The media is 90% controlled by Democrats, so they complain about everything Republicans do and nothing that Democrats do. You can't trust any story you see about Trump in the news.

Not even trump quotes...from trump? Noted
 
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