Why does everyone hate virtika

Solid gear... but owner is a jackass trusty who has no respect for natural areas... examples; swimming/walking out on the hanging lake log, taking a shit in a lake in maroon bells I’m pretty sure, sledding up into a protected area in the Rockies(mt. Elbert in Colorado) dude is just an asshole I’m general, when people were calling him out for doing all this he would basically make a joke out of them on his IG page.

idk but as skiers I feel we have a duty to do what we can to keep natural areas clean, and practice Leave no Trace. And to disrespect that and those who care stupid is just kinda fucked, especially for an industry leader

oh and also then he comes out with a video about how he faked all the shitty bullshit he did by editing himself out of the photos, and then back in basically making a mockery of the whole deal (technically tampering with evidence because he has cases against him and the photos were being used as evidence)

**This post was edited on Jan 11th 2021 at 6:57:45pm
 
14226095:WoFlowz said:
It’s not their gear it’s their owner and his behavior....

Its lesh right?

i actually respect him alot because he doesnt price gouge on his products.

honestly he seems to be a pretty based guy who wants to provide cool products at a fair price.

i reserve my hate for companies that charge 100$ for a fucking bandana hoping that some idiot rich kids will beg their parents to buy it for them.
 
Mostly the incident with David Lesh shitting in a protected lake. Before that I don't really get it, he seems like a douche but none of the other stuff he did was really that crazy imo. Idk if it's just my hill but it seems like Virtika has only lost its popularity on Newschoolers. Especially this year I've been seeing it more than literally any other brand for some reason
 
14226167:CrunnchyVanMan said:
Solid gear... but owner is a jackass trusty who has no respect for natural areas... examples; swimming/walking out on the hanging lake log, taking a shit in a lake in maroon bells I’m pretty sure, sledding up into a protected area in the Rockies(mt. Elbert in Colorado) dude is just an asshole I’m general, when people were calling him out for doing all this he would basically make a joke out of them on his IG page.

idk but as skiers I feel we have a duty to do what we can to keep natural areas clean, and practice Leave no Trace. And to disrespect that and those who care stupid is just kinda fucked, especially for an industry leader

oh and also then he comes out with a video about how he faked all the shitty bullshit he did by editing himself out of the photos, and then back in basically making a mockery of the whole deal (technically tampering with evidence because he has cases against him and the photos were being used as evidence)

**This post was edited on Jan 11th 2021 at 6:57:45pm

Omg!! HE DROVE A SNOMOBILE ON SNOW??

DOES HE LIKE WANT TO RAPE MOTHER NATURE OR SOMETHING?

A SNOWMOBILE ON FUCKING SNOW???

we need to murder this virtika guy because if we dont the natural earth will be forever ruined and the world ecosystem will collapse and everything will go extinct

but srsly... Jesus fucking christ... just bc its called mother nature doesnt mean naturalists have to perpectually act like fucking vaginas. The whole epa big government authoritarian natural shit is pure cancer. All it does is reward the ppl who are already filthy rich and make it impossible for poorer people to make a buck by, for example, making a great new ski resort or something.

BUT WAIT,,,,

A SNOWMOBILE ON FUCKING SNOW???
 
14226187:DolanReloaded said:
Omg!! HE DROVE A SNOMOBILE ON SNOW??

DOES HE LIKE WANT TO RAPE MOTHER NATURE OR SOMETHING?

A SNOWMOBILE ON FUCKING SNOW???

we need to murder this virtika guy because if we dont the natural earth will be forever ruined and the world ecosystem will collapse and everything will go extinct

but srsly... Jesus fucking christ... just bc its called mother nature doesnt mean naturalists have to perpectually act like fucking vaginas. The whole epa big government authoritarian natural shit is pure cancer. All it does is reward the ppl who are already filthy rich and make it impossible for poorer people to make a buck by, for example, making a great new ski resort or something.

BUT WAIT,,,,

A SNOWMOBILE ON FUCKING SNOW???

Public lands are protected for a reason, some protect certain species or plants or animals or even just rare geological formations. It’s a privilege to have access to these areas. One person can ruin that all that’s why people are angry. And shitting in a lake is just rude...
 
14226187:DolanReloaded said:
Omg!! HE DROVE A SNOMOBILE ON SNOW??

DOES HE LIKE WANT TO RAPE MOTHER NATURE OR SOMETHING?

A SNOWMOBILE ON FUCKING SNOW???

we need to murder this virtika guy because if we dont the natural earth will be forever ruined and the world ecosystem will collapse and everything will go extinct

but srsly... Jesus fucking christ... just bc its called mother nature doesnt mean naturalists have to perpectually act like fucking vaginas. The whole epa big government authoritarian natural shit is pure cancer. All it does is reward the ppl who are already filthy rich and make it impossible for poorer people to make a buck by, for example, making a great new ski resort or something.

BUT WAIT,,,,

A SNOWMOBILE ON FUCKING SNOW???

you really missed the point my guy
 
14226187:DolanReloaded said:
Omg!! HE DROVE A SNOMOBILE ON SNOW??

DOES HE LIKE WANT TO RAPE MOTHER NATURE OR SOMETHING?

A SNOWMOBILE ON FUCKING SNOW???

we need to murder this virtika guy because if we dont the natural earth will be forever ruined and the world ecosystem will collapse and everything will go extinct

but srsly... Jesus fucking christ... just bc its called mother nature doesnt mean naturalists have to perpectually act like fucking vaginas. The whole epa big government authoritarian natural shit is pure cancer. All it does is reward the ppl who are already filthy rich and make it impossible for poorer people to make a buck by, for example, making a great new ski resort or something.

BUT WAIT,,,,

A SNOWMOBILE ON FUCKING SNOW???

Caring about the earth is antifa Dolan, you’re right, protected area mean big gobermint 1984 socialist
 
14226187:DolanReloaded said:
Omg!! HE DROVE A SNOMOBILE ON SNOW??

DOES HE LIKE WANT TO RAPE MOTHER NATURE OR SOMETHING?

A SNOWMOBILE ON FUCKING SNOW???

we need to murder this virtika guy because if we dont the natural earth will be forever ruined and the world ecosystem will collapse and everything will go extinct

but srsly... Jesus fucking christ... just bc its called mother nature doesnt mean naturalists have to perpectually act like fucking vaginas. The whole epa big government authoritarian natural shit is pure cancer. All it does is reward the ppl who are already filthy rich and make it impossible for poorer people to make a buck by, for example, making a great new ski resort or something.

BUT WAIT,,,,

A SNOWMOBILE ON FUCKING SNOW???

In the picture he was just straight up riding on plants
 
14226190:WoFlowz said:
Public lands are protected for a reason, some protect certain species or plants or animals or even just rare geological formations. It’s a privilege to have access to these areas. One person can ruin that all that’s why people are angry. And shitting in a lake is just rude...

Ppl who overestimate the impact of humans also overestimate the importance of humans.

these ppl who think riding a snowmobile is somehow going to harm nature are egotistical fucks who think humans are so much more powerful than nature and we need to protect nature from evil humans. Its straight pompousness and a rightious grab for authority.

Apart from hunting an animal to extinction, nature is far more powerful than humans.

riding a snowmobile on a fucking snow field? What? Is that going to make some groundhog get depressed and kill himself?
 
14226244:sickjukes87 said:
In the picture he was just straight up riding on plants

Plants? Oh no. We must have a world shortage of fucking plants. We need to make sure theres enough plants for our fucking grandchildren.
 
14226186:richiii said:
Mostly the incident with David Lesh shitting in a protected lake. Before that I don't really get it, he seems like a douche but none of the other stuff he did was really that crazy imo. Idk if it's just my hill but it seems like Virtika has only lost its popularity on Newschoolers. Especially this year I've been seeing it more than literally any other brand for some reason

Same here. Maybe they just make their logo bigger and more obvious but it doesn't seem to have lost popularity in the general public. Saga on the other hand seems to have lost a lot but thats a sad story with enough threads on it already.

**This post was edited on Jan 11th 2021 at 9:06:36pm
 
14226246:DolanReloaded said:
Ppl who overestimate the impact of humans also overestimate the importance of humans.

these ppl who think riding a snowmobile is somehow going to harm nature are egotistical fucks who think humans are so much more powerful than nature and we need to protect nature from evil humans. Its straight pompousness and a rightious grab for authority.

Apart from hunting an animal to extinction, nature is far more powerful than humans.

riding a snowmobile on a fucking snow field? What? Is that going to make some groundhog get depressed and kill himself?

You sound like the kind of person that broke into capitol the other day but besides that yes riding a snowmobile in areas with indangered species or rare plants can harm them. Not to mention riding one in an area where people are not supposed to snowmobile or bc ski can ruin everywhere for the rest of us. The one thing he’s done I can respect is drive a snowmobile up a vail resort then hit their jumps on it.
 
14226255:WoFlowz said:
You sound like the kind of person that broke into capitol the other day but besides that yes riding a snowmobile in areas with indangered species or rare plants can harm them. Not to mention riding one in an area where people are not supposed to snowmobile or bc ski can ruin everywhere for the rest of us. The one thing he’s done I can respect is drive a snowmobile up a vail resort then hit their jumps on it.

Dude animals and life in general is much more tenacious than you give it credit for. Thinking a groundhog is going to abandon its cubs and go drown itself in a river just because it heard the sound of a snowmobile off in the distance is pure anthropocentric masturbation.

i get that naturalists think they are special but most of the animals these naturalists think they are saving with their armchair “nature is fragile”attitudes probably dont give a shit about them, let alone some random dude riding a snowmobile a mile away.
 
14226279:DolanReloaded said:
Dude animals and life in general is much more tenacious than you give it credit for. Thinking a groundhog is going to abandon its cubs and go drown itself in a river just because it heard the sound of a snowmobile off in the distance is pure anthropocentric masturbation.

i get that naturalists think they are special but most of the animals these naturalists think they are saving with their armchair “nature is fragile”attitudes probably dont give a shit about them, let alone some random dude riding a snowmobile a mile away.

Its this exact mindset that is dangerous. One person killing some fragile plants or scaring a few animals really isn't all that bad. it's this idea that it isn't bad that is so harmful, because then lots of people begin to think it's okay and do the same thing. Now, suddenly instead of one days worth of plants uprooted by a sled, there can be ten days worth of plants ruined because that first guy posted on social media, and nine more dudes went out and did the same thing. This scales rapidly and nonlinearly with huge amounts of potential damage 'unlocked' with every social media post of somebody doing a fucked up thing, especially someone with a following.
 
14226249:DolanReloaded said:
Plants? Oh no. We must have a world shortage of fucking plants. We need to make sure theres enough plants for our fucking grandchildren.

Plants and other natural features in a alpine environment can takes years or even decades to recover because of the short summer season.

So fuck you bud and your idiot sarcasm. It's very possible and in their rights for the forest service to close a whole area to all users because of a single event like this to allow for the habitat to rehabilitate.
 
14226249:DolanReloaded said:
Plants? Oh no. We must have a world shortage of fucking plants. We need to make sure theres enough plants for our fucking grandchildren.

You guys are missing the point here, you’re right one person sledding across some plants isn’t gonna do shit but it’s about respecting the area that you enjoy. And when you’re a big name in the industry, you’re bound to have a following of young bucks who think you’re rad so when they see that shit and you making a joke out of it, that’s how you build a generation of careless pricks who don’t care about the planet we live on. It’s all about setting a good example.
 
14226279:DolanReloaded said:
Dude animals and life in general is much more tenacious than you give it credit for. Thinking a groundhog is going to abandon its cubs and go drown itself in a river just because it heard the sound of a snowmobile off in the distance is pure anthropocentric masturbation.

i get that naturalists think they are special but most of the animals these naturalists think they are saving with their armchair “nature is fragile”attitudes probably dont give a shit about them, let alone some random dude riding a snowmobile a mile away.

damn dude thats so orwellian
 
14226737:wyld_stallyns said:
Did dolan get banned again¿

Probably but who cares. As soon as he’s unbanned he’s gonna come running back because acting like kool man on the internet is all that he lives for. What a fucking pussy
 
virtika is something a dumbass high school kid would think up as an idea for an outerwear brand with outrageous colors and hot chix
 
14227151:DeebieSkeebies said:
virtika is something a dumbass high school kid would think up as an idea for an outerwear brand with outrageous colors and hot chix

I mean have you heard anything about David Lesh? He has always been a dumbass high school kid even through his 30s
 
i'm too lazy to type out a proper explanation of david's headass, so read this

14226167:CrunnchyVanMan said:
Solid gear... but owner is a jackass trusty who has no respect for natural areas... examples; swimming/walking out on the hanging lake log, taking a shit in a lake in maroon bells I’m pretty sure, sledding up into a protected area in the Rockies(mt. Elbert in Colorado) dude is just an asshole I’m general, when people were calling him out for doing all this he would basically make a joke out of them on his IG page.

idk but as skiers I feel we have a duty to do what we can to keep natural areas clean, and practice Leave no Trace. And to disrespect that and those who care stupid is just kinda fucked, especially for an industry leader

oh and also then he comes out with a video about how he faked all the shitty bullshit he did by editing himself out of the photos, and then back in basically making a mockery of the whole deal (technically tampering with evidence because he has cases against him and the photos were being used as evidence)

**This post was edited on Jan 11th 2021 at 6:57:45pm
 
INB4 : skylinegtr , Pinkcamo, grand things, catdick, abar, thehater, crunchyvann, sofaking, rookie, snowfinder, jpurd, westcoast &&&& a photo of bigpurpleskisuit wearing virtika.

& a bunch of them admitting the gear is solid but hate the nature destroyer.
 
14229972:pokerman said:
INB4 : skylinegtr , Pinkcamo, grand things, catdick, abar, thehater, crunchyvann, sofaking, rookie, snowfinder, jpurd, westcoast &&&& a photo of bigpurpleskisuit wearing virtika.

& a bunch of them admitting the gear is solid but hate the nature destroyer.

woops crunchyvann already in here letting everyone know he hates virtika.
 
14226187:DolanReloaded said:
Omg!! HE DROVE A SNOMOBILE ON SNOW??

DOES HE LIKE WANT TO RAPE MOTHER NATURE OR SOMETHING?

A SNOWMOBILE ON FUCKING SNOW???

we need to murder this virtika guy because if we dont the natural earth will be forever ruined and the world ecosystem will collapse and everything will go extinct

but srsly... Jesus fucking christ... just bc its called mother nature doesnt mean naturalists have to perpectually act like fucking vaginas. The whole epa big government authoritarian natural shit is pure cancer. All it does is reward the ppl who are already filthy rich and make it impossible for poorer people to make a buck by, for example, making a great new ski resort or something.

BUT WAIT,,,,

A SNOWMOBILE ON FUCKING SNOW???

god damn ur good at getting dislikes
 
fwiw I don't think Lesh really cares about being liked by ns/the broader freeski community anymore. he seems content with virtika being an instagram brand market towards regular folks. that being said, the general feeling is mutual. i don't really care about his brand anymore, the quality is mid, the styles aren't for me and it doesn't really sponsor any skiers I like
 
14226246:DolanReloaded said:
Ppl who overestimate the impact of humans also overestimate the importance of humans.

these ppl who think riding a snowmobile is somehow going to harm nature are egotistical fucks who think humans are so much more powerful than nature and we need to protect nature from evil humans. Its straight pompousness and a rightious grab for authority.

Apart from hunting an animal to extinction, nature is far more powerful than humans.

riding a snowmobile on a fucking snow field? What? Is that going to make some groundhog get depressed and kill himself?

dude you are such a sad waste of sperm.
 
14229972:pokerman said:
INB4 : skylinegtr , Pinkcamo, grand things, catdick, abar, thehater, crunchyvann, sofaking, rookie, snowfinder, jpurd, westcoast &&&& a photo of bigpurpleskisuit wearing virtika.

& a bunch of them admitting the gear is solid but hate the nature destroyer.

Yeah man, I hate Lesh so much it keeps me up all night ranting about him on the internet. I'm heated over here dude.
 
14226249:DolanReloaded said:
Plants? Oh no. We must have a world shortage of fucking plants. We need to make sure theres enough plants for our fucking grandchildren.

Certain ranges of Colorado have alpine plants and insects that are unique to that range you asshat. Apart from that life grown very slow in the alpine so a very measurable amount of damage could be done biodiversity wise from someone snowmobiling around on alpine plants. I think you might be a little upset because its ya boys last day in office?
 
David lesh is based and redpilled and anyone who doesn't like him is a summit county subaru driving, vegan blue "square" kook.
 
14245285:b0ss said:
David lesh is based and redpilled and anyone who doesn't like him is a summit county subaru driving, vegan blue "square" kook.

There’s nothing based or redpilled with encouraging people to damage the environment
 
14229972:pokerman said:
INB4 : skylinegtr , Pinkcamo, grand things, catdick, abar, thehater, crunchyvann, sofaking, rookie, snowfinder, jpurd, westcoast &&&& a photo of bigpurpleskisuit wearing virtika.

& a bunch of them admitting the gear is solid but hate the nature destroyer.

Hahahah I hadnt seen this post, but feel honored to be listed with this crew
 
14229972:pokerman said:
INB4 : skylinegtr , Pinkcamo, grand things, catdick, abar, thehater, crunchyvann, sofaking, rookie, snowfinder, jpurd, westcoast &&&& a photo of bigpurpleskisuit wearing virtika.

& a bunch of them admitting the gear is solid but hate the nature destroyer.

The gear is solid, but I hate the nature destroyer
 
14229972:pokerman said:
INB4 : skylinegtr , Pinkcamo, grand things, catdick, abar, thehater, crunchyvann, sofaking, rookie, snowfinder, jpurd, westcoast &&&& a photo of bigpurpleskisuit wearing virtika.

& a bunch of them admitting the gear is solid but hate the nature destroyer.

I concur. They make good stuff but lesh is an absolute cock bag
 
14229972:pokerman said:
INB4 : skylinegtr , Pinkcamo, grand things, catdick, abar, thehater, crunchyvann, sofaking, rookie, snowfinder, jpurd, westcoast &&&& a photo of bigpurpleskisuit wearing virtika.

& a bunch of them admitting the gear is solid but hate the nature destroyer.

i'm confused why i'm listed here, is this a "david lesh haters" list?

if so, happy to be here but wow you guys must keep track of usernames better than i do lmao, you actually listed all these people from memory??
 
14226572:Charliehermens1 said:
You guys are missing the point here, you’re right one person sledding across some plants isn’t gonna do shit but it’s about respecting the area that you enjoy. And when you’re a big name in the industry, you’re bound to have a following of young bucks who think you’re rad so when they see that shit and you making a joke out of it, that’s how you build a generation of careless pricks who don’t care about the planet we live on. It’s all about setting a good example.

Part of having good values is being responsible in the outdoors and showing respect. I am not going to get all holyer than thou on someone for taking a shit while backpacking or poaching a closed area but I sure as fuck am not going to glorify it, or be happy about someone that does.

I just genuinely don’t get why he thought that would sell jackets. What does that say about this community, gross.
 
14226300:ReturnToMonkey said:
Its this exact mindset that is dangerous. One person killing some fragile plants or scaring a few animals really isn't all that bad. it's this idea that it isn't bad that is so harmful, because then lots of people begin to think it's okay and do the same thing. Now, suddenly instead of one days worth of plants uprooted by a sled, there can be ten days worth of plants ruined because that first guy posted on social media, and nine more dudes went out and did the same thing. This scales rapidly and nonlinearly with huge amounts of potential damage 'unlocked' with every social media post of somebody doing a fucked up thing, especially someone with a following.

OM GOD IN THAT CASE LETS CLOSE ALL SKI RESORTS AND TURN ALL THE LAND INTO NATIONAL PARKS TO SAVE THE ANIMALS.

dude even if lesh encourages a few ppl to go ride a snowmobile in the mountains, its not a big deal. Theres so much more nature than naturalists give credit.

if a naturalist really wants to help the animals, they should burn down their cabin in the woods and move to the city. If you move to the city you remove your human footprint from the wilderness and give animals more room to breathe.

If your not willing to remove your human presence from nature for the sake of animals, then shut the fuck up about how much you care about the animals, because you dont.

and thats ok, because animals dont care about you either.

even if leshs snowmobiling encouraged 100 ppl to ride their sleds around the mountains every weekend, the animals wouldnt care. If they did care, it would be short lived, and then they would get used to the noise, and they would stop caring.

Natural selection doesnt create little pussy animals who get sand in their vaginas every time they hear a snowmobile; natural selection creates fucking warriors.

993981.jpeg

Does this gangster look like he gives a fuck about snowmobiles? He probably gets hard when he hears the sound of a snowmobile and tackles his bunny girlfriend.

**This post was edited on Feb 19th 2021 at 3:26:23am
 
14245677:DolansLebensraum said:
OM GOD IN THAT CASE LETS CLOSE ALL SKI RESORTS AND TURN ALL THE LAND INTO NATIONAL PARKS TO SAVE THE ANIMALS.

dude even if lesh encourages a few ppl to go ride a snowmobile in the mountains, its not a big deal. Theres so much more nature than naturalists give credit.

if a naturalist really wants to help the animals, they should burn down their cabin in the woods and move to the city. If you move to the city you remove your human footprint from the wilderness and give animals more room to breathe.

If your not willing to remove your human presence from nature for the sake of animals, then shut the fuck up about how much you care about the animals, because you dont.

and thats ok, because animals dont care about you either.

even if leshs snowmobiling encouraged 100 ppl to ride their sleds around the mountains every weekend, the animals wouldnt care. If they did care, it would be short lived, and then they would get used to the noise, and they would stop caring.

Natural selection doesnt create little pussy animals who get sand in their vaginas every time they hear a snowmobile; natural selection creates fucking warriors.

View attachment 993981

Does this gangster look like he gives a fuck about snowmobiles? He probably gets hard when he hears the sound of a snowmobile and tackles his bunny girlfriend.

**This post was edited on Feb 19th 2021 at 3:26:23am

you sound like the kind of person who litters in a national park
 
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