Why are men so threatened by Sierra?

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5Avalanche

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Okay NS. Please settle this for me... Why do male skiers seem to have so much hate in their souls for Sierra Quitiquit? I really don't understand why they feel so strongly about her when she is simply doing her own thing? I have seen so many bash her in comments over the years and would love to know what the root of this is.

I watched her documentary a few years back and she has been through so much. Seems like a great person, and she's a solid skier. Am I missing something? Because it feels like a very one-sided argument
 
I think people are just not a fan of the hypocrisy. The preaching about how we are destroying the world through our consumerism while also flying all over the world to resorts and retreats and generally living a lavish lifestyle that most of us could only dream of really rubs people the wrong way. I think the whole "I'm singlehandedly emitting more carbon than 40 people a year but it's okay cuz I'm changing the world by posting on insta" puts a bad taste in people's mouth.
 
Any disdain I have for her is the same disdain I have for any ig "influencer." She just happens to use skiing as part of her persona.
 
Also besides being hypocritical, she made claims about Steve stepps meme that were highly exaggerated and ridiculous such as encouraging violence against women
 
For me it's the fact she made a documentary about herself while have no skiing legacy. It's one thing for T-Hall or Candide to do that. But they're.....T-Hall and Candide. I guess I wish she did more skiing and less content creation. I'm sure she's a super nice person, I just don't have love for her as a skier. Notice how Angel Collinson, Kaya Turski, Brooke Potter, and Tatum never got hated on for "doing their thing"? It's cuz their "thing" was skiing.
 
14189073:Lonely said:
I think people are just not a fan of the hypocrisy. The preaching about how we are destroying the world through our consumerism while also flying all over the world to resorts and retreats and generally living a lavish lifestyle that most of us could only dream of really rubs people the wrong way. I think the whole "I'm singlehandedly emitting more carbon than 40 people a year but it's okay cuz I'm changing the world by posting on insta" puts a bad taste in people's mouth.
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This and also multiply times 5 because she's a trust fund kid. The Quitiquit's are a wealthy family from Park City. Don't get me wrong, I think it would be nice to live with a trust fund in my back pocket, but I definitely wouldn't be flaunting that all over the gram.
 
14189073:Lonely said:
I think the whole "I'm singlehandedly emitting more carbon than 40 people a year but it's okay cuz I'm changing the world by posting on insta" puts a bad taste in people's mouth.
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this exactly
 
14189085:rice.chex said:
Also besides being hypocritical, she made claims about Steve stepps meme that were highly exaggerated and ridiculous such as encouraging violence against women
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I think I know the one you are talking about and the misogyny in those comments was sickening .
 
14189086:Yung_Gnarley said:
For me it's the fact she made a documentary about herself while have no skiing legacy. It's one thing for T-Hall or Candide to do that. But they're.....T-Hall and Candide. I guess I wish she did more skiing and less content creation. I'm sure she's a super nice person, I just don't have love for her as a skier. Notice how Angel Collinson, Kaya Turski, Brooke Potter, and Tatum never got hated on for "doing their thing"? It's cuz their "thing" was skiing.
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Okay but here's where I have beef. Was she ever trying to be like Tatum Monod or Angel Collinson? People seem to have this belief that she only deserves respect If she is always doing rad things. Well, guess what? She also works as a model most of the time. She isn't just one thing - no woman is.

Don't hate the player hate the game. Content creation is how a lot of people make money. And if she can market the ski industry to her following, then brands will find value in that. I'm out here buying a sled, did the whole freeride comp thing, now trying to film and I have no hate on her for doing what she's doing - even if she's getting paid and I'm not.

I think people expect her to only be a pro skier to be respected, but in reality, she is a lot of different things and skiing might not necessarily be her priority all the time but it's something she does better than most whether people like it or not.
 
14189073:Lonely said:
I think people are just not a fan of the hypocrisy. The preaching about how we are destroying the world through our consumerism while also flying all over the world to resorts and retreats and generally living a lavish lifestyle that most of us could only dream of really rubs people the wrong way. I think the whole "I'm singlehandedly emitting more carbon than 40 people a year but it's okay cuz I'm changing the world by posting on insta" puts a bad taste in people's mouth.
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Okay but isn't literally any "pro" skier also driving a truck and sled and flying in helicopters and planes, but also telling you to vote for the environment a hypocrite.

"Lavish lifestyle that most of us could only dream of" wreaks of jealousy FYI
 
14189079:r00kie said:
Any disdain I have for her is the same disdain I have for any ig "influencer." She just happens to use skiing as part of her persona.
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Don't hate the player hate the game. I'd prefer if brands looked at girls who shred more than girls who take pics but hey we've all got value and that value comes down to who generates more $$$ (giving a ski bum free skis doesn't translate to brands making more money if they haven't got some sort of influence)
 
14189104:5Avalanche said:
Don't hate the player hate the game. I'd prefer if brands looked at girls who shred more than girls who take pics but hey we've all got value and that value comes down to who generates more $$$ (giving a ski bum free skis doesn't translate to brands making more money if they haven't got some sort of influence)
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Thing is there are a ton of girls who are more involved in the ski industry for that whether it be comps and movie parts more and more that last couple years. Sierra is NOT a pro skier, she is an influencer and if we are being honest probably does much better in terms of revenue and audience going that route. I don't get this rant you're on. Like this community has played a big part in hyping up women in freestyle skiing by watching comps and hyping up movie parts.
 
14189107:r00kie said:
Thing is there are a ton of girls who are more involved in the ski industry for that whether it be comps and movie parts more and more that last couple years. Sierra is NOT a pro skier, she is an influencer and if we are being honest probably does much better in terms of revenue and audience going that route. I don't get this rant you're on. Like this community has played a big part in hyping up women in freestyle skiing by watching comps and hyping up movie parts.
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I think that both have their place. The athletes who are being sponsored help push female skiing and encourage chicks to get after it. The influencers can help get people started in the sport and increase the amount of chicks out there in the first place. Both are good because both sell gear. Expecting an influencer to also be slaying lines all day every day is delusional.

My "rant' has to do with a recent thread I came across and it seems to be a recurrent theme to specifically throw her under the bus. But nobody throws Lexi Dupont under the bus for her family's environmental impact because she films segments... People seem to pick on her specifically and I want to know why.

The freestyle community is not the best at hyping up women, I've read so many more comments about how women don't deserve equal pay, can't ski well, aren't as fun to watch, etc from the freestyle community than any other ski community.
 
14189102:5Avalanche said:
Okay but isn't literally any "pro" skier also driving a truck and sled and flying in helicopters and planes, but also telling you to vote for the environment a hypocrite.

"Lavish lifestyle that most of us could only dream of" wreaks of jealousy FYI
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the point that everyone is making is that she is NOT a PRO skier, pro skiers do Heli trips because that's their fucking job and they are getting paid to do so because they are good at it. She on the other had is doing it purely by choice and out of her own pocket. She is spending her family's money to destroy the environment one ski trip at a time.

As for the lavish lifestyle part, no shit sherlock, everyone's jealous and wishes they could do absolutely no real work, go on great ski trips, and still be stupid rich at the same time.
 
I thonk the distinction between influencer and skier is important here. Pros such as Taylor Brooke are paid vecuase they are good at skiing and put out tons of content. Influencers, such as Sierra, make their money by developing a massive social media following and working with brands to get their logo/product on her page. Sierra just uses skiing as part of the persona she uses to promote herself. As ofr community support, I don't anyone on this site is trying to surpress women in skiing except for a few notorious trolls. Sierra is just ignored cause the content she puts out isn't really ski content, but typical ig influencer content.
 
14189101:5Avalanche said:
Okay but here's where I have beef. Was she ever trying to be like Tatum Monod or Angel Collinson? People seem to have this belief that she only deserves respect If she is always doing rad things. Well, guess what? She also works as a model most of the time. She isn't just one thing - no woman is.

Don't hate the player hate the game. Content creation is how a lot of people make money. And if she can market the ski industry to her following, then brands will find value in that. I'm out here buying a sled, did the whole freeride comp thing, now trying to film and I have no hate on her for doing what she's doing - even if she's getting paid and I'm not.

I think people expect her to only be a pro skier to be respected, but in reality, she is a lot of different things and skiing might not necessarily be her priority all the time but it's something she does better than most whether people like it or not.
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She calls herself a pro big mtn skier so forgive me for pitting her against actual big mountain skiers. I bet most girls skiing bridger bowl would outski her
 
topic:5Avalanche said:
Okay NS. Please settle this for me... Why do male skiers seem to have so much hate in their souls for Sierra Quitiquit? I really don't understand why they feel so strongly about her when she is simply doing her own thing? I have seen so many bash her in comments over the years and would love to know what the root of this is.

I watched her documentary a few years back and she has been through so much. Seems like a great person, and she's a solid skier. Am I missing something? Because it feels like a very one-sided argument
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lol what is her thing? mediocre skiing and Instagram influencing?
 
14189102:5Avalanche said:
Okay but isn't literally any "pro" skier also driving a truck and sled and flying in helicopters and planes, but also telling you to vote for the environment a hypocrite.

"Lavish lifestyle that most of us could only dream of" wreaks of jealousy FYI
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Also, those other guys are less of hypocrites because they actually can ski like a professional skier.

**This post was edited on Oct 27th 2020 at 6:00:29pm
 
14189102:5Avalanche said:
Okay but isn't literally any "pro" skier also driving a truck and sled and flying in helicopters and planes, but also telling you to vote for the environment a hypocrite.

"Lavish lifestyle that most of us could only dream of" wreaks of jealousy FYI
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I don't think anyone is "threatened" by Sierra, people just think the image that she pushes of herself online is hypocritical and contradictory, and she comes off looking somewhat elitist and ignorant of how us poors live.
 
14189102:5Avalanche said:
Okay but isn't literally any "pro" skier also driving a truck and sled and flying in helicopters and planes, but also telling you to vote for the environment a hypocrite.

"Lavish lifestyle that most of us could only dream of" wreaks of jealousy FYI
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Yes, but the difference is that they don't constantly post about how we need to save the planet and act like they are somehow better than others for doing so, they admit they do wrong, she does not.

She just gives off super entitled vibes IMO so I avoid her completely. Also, I wouldn't say that "Men are so threatened by Sierra" it's more that they just don't like what they see coming from her because it comes off as fake/annoying/something else. Just because a male doesn't like a woman doesn't mean he feels threatened by them lol (although I know some definitely are sometimes).
 
Her superior intelligence, wisdom beyond her years, her positivity, her passion for fitness and health, her outspoken support for climate change and other important social issues, and just being the most humble and down to earth human remind me of the sniveling little man troll that I am.

And that's why I am threatened by her.

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14189169:little_boy_prime said:
Her superior intelligence, wisdom beyond her years, her positivity, her passion for fitness and health, her outspoken support for climate change and other important social issues, and just being the most humble and down to earth human remind me of the sniveling little man troll that I am.

And that's why I am threatened by her.

**This post was edited on Oct 27th 2020 at 6:40:25pm
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Little Man trolls rise up
 
She posted some dumb things and then seemed hypocritical. Also sparked the whole shit show about contest pay etc where people lost their minds and some girl tried to perma ban me because she didn't like my opinion. Also she has a lot of the "Look at me I'm a girl" influencer type shots. People hate on guys that post that content as well. Idk, I don't care, I don't follow her, I only see her stuff when people make threads on here about it. It's whatever though, she can make money doing that if that's her thing. Fuck it, if I was an insta influencer or whatever I would probably ride that train. Go fly around the world posting pictures of your body with captions about how you're saving the world, I don't care.

Not a fan of her, and I find it cringey. But she can do whatever.
 
14189102:5Avalanche said:
Okay but isn't literally any "pro" skier also driving a truck and sled and flying in helicopters and planes, but also telling you to vote for the environment a hypocrite.

"Lavish lifestyle that most of us could only dream of" wreaks of jealousy FYI
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Who says I don't like people who do that too? I'll go into this deeper when I feel like it because there are reasons why she is different than most other skiers.

But for now, I'm going to defer to [tag=10102]@Wormracer[/tag] on this. He probably has the best input on how you can be a pro and also not fly to Cancun 4 times a year.
 
Hell yeah, just imply that people are threatened if they don't agree with a person. Perfect.

NS let's do something bigger than ourselves and get a fund going to buy OP a book

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14189102:5Avalanche said:
Okay but isn't literally any "pro" skier also driving a truck and sled and flying in helicopters and planes, but also telling you to vote for the environment a hypocrite.

"Lavish lifestyle that most of us could only dream of" wreaks of jealousy FYI
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competition skiers travel often and far and probably have very large carbon footprint on a similar level as sierra, although most of those skiers are only flying on commercial airlines. that doesn't change the fact that their activities are pumping CO2 into the atmosphere, but in my opinion it is different than skiers riding in helicopters - helicopters take an extraordinary amount of energy to fly because their power is active, meaning that the engine must be operating at full power at all times to maintain lift. planes create lift passively through the airfoil, so the engine is much more efficient. not to mention, plane emissions are distributed among the entirety of the crew and passengers, which is likely anywhere between 50-400 people. helicopters can literally fly like 10 people max, so the individual footprint is considerably higher. just to think about.
 
topic:5Avalanche said:
Okay NS. Please settle this for me... Why do male skiers seem to have so much hate in their souls for Sierra Quitiquit? I really don't understand why they feel so strongly about her when she is simply doing her own thing? I have seen so many bash her in comments over the years and would love to know what the root of this is.

I watched her documentary a few years back and she has been through so much. Seems like a great person, and she's a solid skier. Am I missing something? Because it feels like a very one-sided argument
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I don’t really care personally but I see where a lot of people are coming from. She really pushes the whole “save the environment” pitch but she’s a 1 percenter with millions of dollars. Most professionals granted travel a whole lot too but most of them are flying commercial and don’t have that much money. They ski because that’s what they love and this girl just uses it to appeal to a wider audience. There’s a HUGE difference between a skier, and someone who skis. She can do whatever she wants but the whole MSP argument and the Steve Stepp thing was stupid IMO, she was trying to be all SJW to make herself look “woke” or whatever.
 
14189221:animator said:
I don’t really care personally but I see where a lot of people are coming from. She really pushes the whole “save the environment” pitch but she’s a 1 percenter with millions of dollars. Most professionals granted travel a whole lot too but most of them are flying commercial and don’t have that much money. They ski because that’s what they love and this girl just uses it to appeal to a wider audience. There’s a HUGE difference between a skier, and someone who skis. She can do whatever she wants but the whole MSP argument and the Steve Stepp thing was stupid IMO, she was trying to be all SJW to make herself look “woke” or whatever.
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She also just looks like those rich white fucks who only ski at Vail with like LV ski pants with endangered badger fur or whatever on their jackets. Just my $0.02
 
14189223:animator said:
She also just looks like those rich white fucks who only ski at Vail with like LV ski pants with endangered badger fur or whatever on their jackets. Just my $0.02
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Like she supports Bogner? What the fuck is “Athluxury”? Just proves my point that she’s a rich fuck who skis, she’s not a skier.
 
I don't really have a dog in this fight but dude who fucking cares. A white (upper?)middle class woman who gets paid to post pictures is going to be okay if she gets some hate, it might even build her brand stronger. That's part of being an influencer. Seriously defending her is as dumb as seriously spending time hating on her. None of this shit matters in the larger context of the world, realize that it is a privelege to fixate on the minutia of instagram influencer politics instead of being concerned with literally anything else that is happening right now.
 
Apart not being all about skier, I’m not a fan thus far. Personally I don’t really like influencers, and most of her content seems like it’s her posting shit just to post shit. Seeing one picture of David Lesh shitting in a lake was 1000 times more entertaining than anything she’s ever posted. Also just a big turn off seeing her use seaweed at the beach to use like she’s training at the gym.

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I dunno. I think I’m going to stick to following the real Gs like Brook Potter & Maddie Jones. They seem pretty real, and do all they can to promote other skiers, specifically girls, which is dope to see.
 
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