Who will be the next Candide thovex

However, i do think Kelly Sildaru will set (longterm) new levels for women's skiing like Candide did for men
 
13796193:Session said:
He's already here....Sammy.
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needs a FWT win or two and another good few years of next level skiing before we can be chatting like that. I get what you're saying though
 
13796208:Rodigan said:
needs a FWT win or two and another good few years of next level skiing before we can be chatting like that. I get what you're saying though
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I agree about a FWT win. Candide won the overall tour, which is an incredible accomplishment at the big mountain level. Sammy is a great skier all-around, but he is not Candide yet when it comes to pure big mountain skiing. Sammy is incredible though.

Richard Permin might be the closest we have to Candide. He is a few years older though, and does not have the park or pipe contest results. He can really ski though. He is a pro level park skier AND a pro level big mountain skier. There are not many guys like that.
 
No one will be. Sorry op if that wasn't the answer you were looking for but the dude is from another galaxy when it comes to skiing. Also his videos went viral and put freestyle skiing in the spotlight so big ups to him with that as well
 
I don't know if we will ever see anyone win pipe/park xgames medals AND win the overall Freeride World Tour title and produce incredible big mountain (and park) film segments. The amazing thing is that Candide was a wild card for the first FWT event that year, and won the event. They kept giving him wild cards and he kept killing it. Also, remember that the FWT does not always have the best snow conditions. Those guys are often slaying in sub-prime conditions. Some of the most impressive skiing I have seen him do was at the Verbier event on the Bec De Ross. A lot of people thought Candide would take a less technical line, if there is such a thing on that face, with fluidity and big airs. Instead, he got skied the most technical part of the peak and finished it off with some huge airs. It was impressive because people knew Candide could kill it on big cliffs and fluid lines but not how technical he was in big mountain terrain. I would like to see what he can do on a Sage style spine wall. I have seen him destroy other types of big mountain terrain but never an ultra-technical spine wall like Dr. Seuss, Hotel Room, or Corrugated Face. You have to work your way up in that sort of terrain but I would not be against Candide.

I hope we see someone else like him, but I don't know if we will. Many of the leaders in the park scene 10-15 years ago, Candide, Tanner, CR, Pep, Jon, Henrik Windstedt, also skied big mountain even if they were not always filmed doing it. Sammy comes the closest, but out of the current crop of xgames contenders I don't know who can step into that realm. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe these guys are skiing big mountain when they are not at contests, but if they aren't then we won't see guys like Candide and CR and Tanner. It seems to take such focus to stand on the podium these days that you really can't do much of anything else. Look at pipe/park, is there anyone capable of competing for gold in both of those disciplines? I'm asking because I don't know. Tanner, CR, Candide and Jon could do that stuff AND ski big mountain. The year CR and Candide revolutionized pipe, I think 2003, CR also put together one of the best movie segments of the year. He hit backcountry kickers, skied big lines in bad snow and mixed in some tricks off cliffs. The movie was Focused and that part stands up today. If you watch the extras Scott Gaffney talks about how bad the snow CR got for his big mountain lines was and how hard he killed it despite that. This post is not meant to be a "what's wrong with kids today" rant, and I hope it's not coming off that way, but I think the incredible focus it takes to compete in the xgames/Olympics might prevent some of these guys from branching out into different types of skiing. Sammy might be the last of a dying breed, although I really hope he isn't.

Like I said before, Richard Permin is pretty awesome but he is almost Candide's age. The segment Permin put together in Superheroes of Stoke could have stood up as BOTH a park and a big mountain segment. Murray Wais even comments that Richard is skiing at absolutely the highest level in both park and big mountain, something he did not think was possible.
 
I honestly think that Markus Eder could be the man, he has some serious park skills w/ a nine knight win and some podiums at the FWT. And also all his videos and edits are dope
 
I still think it's a conspiracy that the ski industry built him in a lab and programmed him to learn skiing exponentially and will eventually be able to jump from peak to peak with ease
 
13796463:nicofoglia said:
I honestly think that Markus Eder could be the man, he has some serious park skills w/ a nine knight win and some podiums at the FWT. And also all his videos and edits are dope
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I forgot about Markus Eder. Obviously I don't think he has the time to devote to both park and big mountain to win a park medal, but the guy absolutely rips. He tears up big mountain and mixes tricks into big mountain lines. I love watching his edits. He also has FWT experience which goes a long way with me.
 
I'm not sure there are many out there who are comparable simply because they aren't as well rounded. How many kids start off racing or in moguls these days and have that set of technical skills as a foundation to build off of? I would argue that's a huge reason guys from the Candide/T-Hall/CR/Pep/JP generation are so well rounded and can adapt to pretty much any terrain.
 
13796647:saskskier said:
I'm not sure there are many out there who are comparable simply because they aren't as well rounded. How many kids start off racing or in moguls these days and have that set of technical skills as a foundation to build off of? I would argue that's a huge reason guys from the Candide/T-Hall/CR/Pep/JP generation are so well rounded and can adapt to pretty much any terrain.
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That is actually a pretty decent point. I don't think that a mogul/racing background is necessary by any means... but boy do they drill the shit out of you on your technical skills. Its not even fun though for the most of it.

You sure do learn a lot though.
 
13796354:dan4060 said:
I don't know if we will ever see anyone win pipe/park xgames medals AND win the overall Freeride World Tour title and produce incredible big mountain (and park) film segments. The amazing thing is that Candide was a wild card for the first FWT event that year, and won the event. They kept giving him wild cards and he kept killing it. Also, remember that the FWT does not always have the best snow conditions. Those guys are often slaying in sub-prime conditions. Some of the most impressive skiing I have seen him do was at the Verbier event on the Bec De Ross. A lot of people thought Candide would take a less technical line, if there is such a thing on that face, with fluidity and big airs. Instead, he got skied the most technical part of the peak and finished it off with some huge airs. It was impressive because people knew Candide could kill it on big cliffs and fluid lines but not how technical he was in big mountain terrain. I would like to see what he can do on a Sage style spine wall. I have seen him destroy other types of big mountain terrain but never an ultra-technical spine wall like Dr. Seuss, Hotel Room, or Corrugated Face. You have to work your way up in that sort of terrain but I would not be against Candide.

I hope we see someone else like him, but I don't know if we will. Many of the leaders in the park scene 10-15 years ago, Candide, Tanner, CR, Pep, Jon, Henrik Windstedt, also skied big mountain even if they were not always filmed doing it. Sammy comes the closest, but out of the current crop of xgames contenders I don't know who can step into that realm. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe these guys are skiing big mountain when they are not at contests, but if they aren't then we won't see guys like Candide and CR and Tanner. It seems to take such focus to stand on the podium these days that you really can't do much of anything else. Look at pipe/park, is there anyone capable of competing for gold in both of those disciplines? I'm asking because I don't know. Tanner, CR, Candide and Jon could do that stuff AND ski big mountain. The year CR and Candide revolutionized pipe, I think 2003, CR also put together one of the best movie segments of the year. He hit backcountry kickers, skied big lines in bad snow and mixed in some tricks off cliffs. The movie was Focused and that part stands up today. If you watch the extras Scott Gaffney talks about how bad the snow CR got for his big mountain lines was and how hard he killed it despite that. This post is not meant to be a "what's wrong with kids today" rant, and I hope it's not coming off that way, but I think the incredible focus it takes to compete in the xgames/Olympics might prevent some of these guys from branching out into different types of skiing. Sammy might be the last of a dying breed, although I really hope he isn't.

Like I said before, Richard Permin is pretty awesome but he is almost Candide's age. The segment Permin put together in Superheroes of Stoke could have stood up as BOTH a park and a big mountain segment. Murray Wais even comments that Richard is skiing at absolutely the highest level in both park and big mountain, something he did not think was possible.
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agreed with everything you said, i think

it's also worth noting though that skiing is way more developed now, making it even harder for people to excel in all aspects. i dont know if many people at all will have any hope of medaling in x games + FWT, never mind doing that plus film segments on both sides
 
I don't think anybody can explode their body like he did on big Bertha and then come back and win the FWT right away. That is just insane. Shows you how much skill and honestly determination he had. Not many people would be skiing at a relatively high level after that, I doubt most would even ski.
 
13796647:saskskier said:
I'm not sure there are many out there who are comparable simply because they aren't as well rounded. How many kids start off racing or in moguls these days and have that set of technical skills as a foundation to build off of? I would argue that's a huge reason guys from the Candide/T-Hall/CR/Pep/JP generation are so well rounded and can adapt to pretty much any terrain.
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This this this.

people used to be experts at skiing before they moved to the park. they all skied properly in any terrain and had years of training as a racer/ mogul skier, before throwing their first tricks.

let's face it, nowadays being a good gymnast is more important than actual skiing skills to do well in slope competitions.

as well as the obvious sammy, I'd throw in jossi wells as one that could move on to big terrain just cause he is so controlled in everything he does, no matter if going big or not. take a closer look at both his skis during a pipe/ slope run, well balanced and perfectly carved.
 
13796777:prettygood said:
I'd throw in jossi wells .
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yeah that dude is insanely good. id love to see him do big mtn

parker white has to be mentioned here too, at least. im not saying he's the next candide but he is unreal at a lot of different types of skiing
 
Sammy C has the best chance, I could see P White ripping bigger mountain lines but he'll never have the X games awards under his belt. I don't think anyone will surpass him tbh, atleast in the next 15 years.
 
Sammy, Eder, Petit, Tudor, Karl, and pwhite are all up there skillwise but not on the same level as candide with Sammy being the stand out imo due to his comp results. I think henrik and torin could also progress more into the backcountry and big mountain and kill it too
 
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