When to get new boots?

WoFlowz

WoFlowz

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Currently my boots fit pretty well but they have packed out a ton from skiing at the resort 3-5 days a week and skiing in my yard usually about a 1-2 days a week. I’m close to 50 or 60 days now and their starting to not feel as snug and tight as I like them, even when it’s super fuckin cold. I’ve got both my top buckles all the way buckled and the bottoms on 3/4 over. Their K2 BFC 120s, I needed the wide boot to fit my pancake of a foot, and I realize that a k2 120 is nothing like a Lange 120. Would booster straps help? Or should I just buy new liners after this szn is over?
 
How much longer is your season going to be? You could take temporary fixes to get you through the rest of the season. If the shells are in good shape liners would be the move for sure.
 
14397444:CatdickBojangles said:
How much longer is your season going to be? You could take temporary fixes to get you through the rest of the season. If the shells are in good shape liners would be the move for sure.
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Probably skiing into mid April with lifts, then most likely touring and hiking into May, and maybe a trip to copper or hood if I make enough money after ski szn and before summer break

edit: would ideally like to not have to buy new boots or liners until next szn

**This post was edited on Feb 14th 2022 at 8:54:04pm
 
14397447:WoFlowz said:
Probably skiing into mid April with lifts, then most likely touring and hiking into May, and maybe a trip to copper or hood if I make enough money after ski szn and before summer break

edit: would ideally like to not have to buy new boots or liners until next szn

**This post was edited on Feb 14th 2022 at 8:54:04pm
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Got it. You might be able to find new liners for cheap to get you through. Boots are hard to come by right now. My bootfitter didn't have shit left last time I went. I'd just deal with it for the rest of the season and maybe scoop up new liners for cheap.
 
14397454:CatdickBojangles said:
Got it. You might be able to find new liners for cheap to get you through. Boots are hard to come by right now. My bootfitter didn't have shit left last time I went. I'd just deal with it for the rest of the season and maybe scoop up new liners for cheap.
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Alrighty I’ll look for liners, would booster straps possibly help and keep me from having to buy new boots even longer?
 
14397460:WoFlowz said:
Alrighty I’ll look for liners, would booster straps possibly help and keep me from having to buy new boots even longer?
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They could but they are not really going to help the volume issue
 
14397460:WoFlowz said:
Alrighty I’ll look for liners, would booster straps possibly help and keep me from having to buy new boots even longer?
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Intuitions or zipfits would be a good move and you should be able to take them to your new boot. Boosters won’t change anything but they are also something you can move to your new boots later
 
I used the fabric tape you get with first aid kits along with napkins and foam. I've since retired these liners but this worked extremely well for a few months until the napkins fell apart so I'd recommend buying some 1/8" neoprene on amazon instead. Definitely not a permanent fix but this gave me really good control in my boots when I needed it and didn't have money for new liners. You also might like a high volume/high density liner that won't pack out. I switched to a Krypton Pro intuition liner and it hasn't packed out even after well over 100 days of skiing.

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After 60 days the fit is definitely going to degrade compared to when they were new but your foot by no means should be unstable in the boot. If you're cranking on the buckles like you're describing it sounds like they could be either the wrong shape and/or size. What does the shell fit look like?
 
14398153:kvan said:
After 60 days the fit is definitely going to degrade compared to when they were new but your foot by no means should be unstable in the boot. If you're cranking on the buckles like you're describing it sounds like they could be either the wrong shape and/or size. What does the shell fit look like?
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I’ve got a 26.5 and their a 103 last. I wanted to size down when I bought them but could barely get my foot into the 25.5 without being in pain. Tried other boots and other shops and this was the widest most comfy boot I could fine, now that it’s packed out their still comfy but on harsh switch landings the heel seems to shift around and they don’t feel as stiff and responsive when rippin groomers even in the cold
 
14398188:WoFlowz said:
I’ve got a 26.5 and their a 103 last. I wanted to size down when I bought them but could barely get my foot into the 25.5 without being in pain. Tried other boots and other shops and this was the widest most comfy boot I could fine, now that it’s packed out their still comfy but on harsh switch landings the heel seems to shift around and they don’t feel as stiff and responsive when rippin groomers even in the cold
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Too comfortable out of the box can be deceiving as it typically results in too much movement as you're experiencing. You want them extremely snug out of the box to ensure the boot will still be offering proper fit tension, without having to rely on tension from the lower buckles as you get more days on them. You could try adding a couple EVA butterfly wraps to the liner to take up volume around the heel pocket as a temporary fit aid if you're looking to get through the rest of the season on them.

Also, just because you have a wide forefoot doesn't necessarily mean a wide boot is going to be the solution, as the entire foot needs to be accounted for. Obviously, there is only so much we can do for you over the internet and would be worth sitting down with a reliable bootfitter eventually.
 
14398274:kvan said:
Too comfortable out of the box can be deceiving as it typically results in too much movement as you're experiencing. You want them extremely snug out of the box to ensure the boot will still be offering proper fit tension, without having to rely on tension from the lower buckles as you get more days on them. You could try adding a couple EVA butterfly wraps to the liner to take up volume around the heel pocket as a temporary fit aid if you're looking to get through the rest of the season on them.

Also, just because you have a wide forefoot doesn't necessarily mean a wide boot is going to be the solution, as the entire foot needs to be accounted for. Obviously, there is only so much we can do for you over the internet and would be worth sitting down with a reliable bootfitter eventually.
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I went to two good boot fitters in my area. And they were snug outta box but looking back on it maybe not snug enough. It’s very hard to find me a pair of boots because I have a narrow heel, huge calf, and super wide foot, and I have no arches so need arch supports/insoles in all my boots. Thanks for the help
 
14398350:WoFlowz said:
I have a narrow heel, huge calf, and super wide foot
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So you need to find a boot that fits your heel correctly. Then punch for the forefoot. Calf can be accommodated in various ways depending on volume. Flaring shell cuff, lower volume liner, push cuff back and re-rivet etc.

The number of actual skiers out there who need a boot as high volume as a BFC is VERY VERY small.
 
14397444:CatdickBojangles said:
How much longer is your season going to be? You could take temporary fixes to get you through the rest of the season. If the shells are in good shape liners would be the move for sure.
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i’ve kept my boots alive for 4 seasons with temporary fixes hahahh
 
14398350:WoFlowz said:
I went to two good boot fitters in my area. And they were snug outta box but looking back on it maybe not snug enough. It’s very hard to find me a pair of boots because I have a narrow heel, huge calf, and super wide foot, and I have no arches so need arch supports/insoles in all my boots. Thanks for the help
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That can no doubt be a challenging fit. Where are you based out of?
 
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