What is the opposite of a flatspin 5?

Ryan*

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So I've been throwing flatspin 5's on the trampoline (I know, not skiing, but I plan to throw them on snow this winter), and essentially they can be described as 90-backflip-90. I know that's not an exact definition, but it's close. So I tried the opposite, 90-frontflip-90, and it felt really weird and cool and I stomped it, but I don't know what it is. Any hints?
 
Its an off axis non inverted rotation thrown forward. If you go fully inverted, Misty, but if not... well, they're hard to do, but I've heard the term "orbital" to describe one done in a video a few years ago. Not a bio since a bio is a forward cork, its a narrow area between a non-inversion and full inversion.

Hard as fuck to throw I'm guessing too.
 
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It's not misty because I can throw misty 5's so I know how they feel, and it's nothing like a misty. I do go fully inverted, it's just like a flatspin where you go fully inverted and perpendicular to the slope, but just a frontflip instead
 
i'm pretty sure flat 5 is where you spin you are parallel to the ground on your side and spin around a vertical axis that goes through your hip. but because of how you take off and land you don't spin perfectly like that. hope that made sense. what your doing sounds like a weird rodeo five or an underflip.
 
well ive seen people do a rodeo and somepeople call them flat 5 and others call them rodeo 5

and tom wallisch's rodeos are super flat too
 
everybody correcting each other and all these different tricks is making my brain hurt!!!!!!!!

CALM DOWN please i have a massive headache now
 
Absolutely correct.
Thread creator:
Your definition of a flatspin is off. You do NOT go inverted during a flatspin. A flatspin looks like laying down on the ground on your side, and "walking your feet" so that you spin in a circle around your head.
 
Both of these videos depict exactly what I (and the guy I quoted) described. What don't you get?
There is no inversion (inversion meaning feet go overhead) in a flat spin.
Another way to think of it, would be a 1/4 of a lincoln (so that you'd be parallel to the ground), a "backflip" (while laying on your side, so your feet never go over your head), then coming back on axis.
Obviously it's not as cut and dry, because it's a smooth trick and the parts are not nearly a cleanly separate, but that's the idea.
As far as I'm concerned, there's almost no such thing as a "flat 3". I think that what most people refer to as a flat 3 is simply a barely off axis backflip (almost a 45 degree backflip). I have seen a few truly flat 3's, but I can count them on one hand. I believe Andy Mahre does a really great one.
Though flat 5s and rodeo 5s are thrown differently (depending on who you ask), they can often look very similar, and the only true difference visually is that at some point during a rodeo, your feet are higher than your head.
Now, this sparks a whole new controversy as a "new rodeo" has emerged where there is no true inversion. Good examples are McChesney (particularly rodeo 9 and up) and Matt Walker. In my opinion, they're basically doing old school bios (that look a lot like CR's from Ski Movie 3). If you watch them, they're basically doing an upright slightly off axis rotation in which they're "leaning" downhill towards the landing. EXAMPLE: Rodeo 12 at 1:02
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The whole naming and describing tricks phenomenon has become incredibly subjective and confusing.
 
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