What is a lincoln loop 180 called?

it depends if its lincoln then 180

180 then lincoln

90 rightsdide lincoln 90

90 leftside lincoln 90

etc
 
If its only a misty 5 then its the same as an overflip

But an overflip with an extra 180 is different than a misty 7

Misty 7 is more spin less flip
 
Well, technically if you do a lincoln and a 180 at the same time, you will do a rodeo, but underflip/overflips can be done when spun differently. But a rodeo/flat rotation is based off of lincolns.
 
um i did the lincoln loop with a 180 at the same time. i think. all i got is a pic of me. here it is if that helps
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what is it called when it is a constant 180 with the lincoln loop?
 
well, there's the misty (olenick styles - 90 downhill lincoln 90) ... or an overflip if you wanna think that way.

underflip - 90 uphill lincoln 90 (a la vincent dorien)

then there's the lincoln to late 180 and the lincoln to late opposite 180.

plus there's all the switch variations of the lincoln.
 
its what u did in flipping downhill and doing a 180 at the same time

its not like 90 stop, then lincoln, then 90,

its all blended together in a smooth transition
 
overflip or underflip depending on how you do it

or if you do a lincoln and the 180 at the same time i think it would be pretty close to a rodeo?

im not sure though
 
Nah man, Misty 5s and overflips look almost identical. You could endlessly debate whether a particular trick was one or the other. Not to mention, different grabs can affect the look of the rotation. For example, the straight/closed leg truck that Olenick does makes the trick look distinctly overflippish.
 
its prety much a rodeo. a rodeo just isnt that cut and dry. but they are very similiar
 
Alright technically there are 2 different moves that people are calling lincolns. If you look at footage, which I don't have, of Eddie Lincoln doing it back in the 70's; it was like a cartwheel going across the fall line. Normally, if you spin counterclock naturally, you would do a cartwheel by putting your left hand down first. You would also do a classic lincoln loop by cartwheeling to your left. The videos I remember seeing of Ed doing his loop, it looked like someone stuck a pole through his stomach and then rotated him on that like a spit, if that makes sense. Seth Morrison was the first guy I saw doing a new version of a lincoln which he starts like a Misty but the flip is going across the fall line and he doesn't rotate. That is the big difference. If you flip like this ↕; it's a misty. If you flip like this ↔; it's a lincoln. The way Morrison does his Lincoln, he tucks and then barrel rolls. That is totally different from what the original Lincoln Loop was, but they both are flipping across the fall line. You see some tricks where the guy/girl is flipping side ways or at a 90 from the direction their skis are going and it looks like a lincoln, but it isn't. It's only a Lincoln if the flip is at a 90 to the direction of the takeoff and/or direction that the skier is traveling.

What is a Lincoln 180 called, I don't know. In both of the vids posted, the flip is going down the fall line, so neither of those are Lincolns. Like it or not, the trick is called a Lincoln because Ed Lincoln was the first guy to ever do it in a comp. Everyone else was doing front flips, back flips and the infamous mobius which was a full twisting backflip or back 360. Ed's trick was unique because he took his flip across the fall line. Ed past away late last year. He lived about 15 minutes away from me and I didn't know it until after he died. It would have been sweet to buy him a beer. Chris Anthony did a great story on him. Chris had him as a freestyle coach at Copper, when he was little.

Shred
 
ummm.........
The flip is counted as 360. Then the spin is 180. 360+180=540.
A misty 5 technically only has 180 of horizontal spinning, but it also has 360 of vertical spinning. That is how you get 540.
If you went of you way of counting, a misty 7 would only be a misty 3. Have you ever heard of a misty 3? I didn't think so.
Also, an over flip and misty 5 are pretty much identical. It is just a waist of time to try to argue that one....
 
Right this whole terminology of off axis stuff really fucks me off cause nobody seems to get it right including mike douglas with his xgames commentary! Guess its just a mad pet hate of mine...

First: If something is thrown with a lincoln its not ever going to be a rodeo or misty. End of! (not a fight for this thread though)

Second: For the best guide ever hit uphttps://www.newschoolers.com/web/forums/readthread/thread_id/221589/

Third: What youre doin is def either an overflip or an underflip it just depends on which way you linc and which way you spin. ie-

Overflip: linc left - spin right / linc right spin left (flip with head down the hill)

Underflip: linc left - spin left / linc right spin right (flip with head up the hill)

Either way they feel amazin eh?! Gotta love overflips for how much you can see and how easy it is to spot your landing. Everyone else hit up that link!! Newschoolers best guide by far!
 
uhhhhhhhh so half a full lincoln loop which is a 360 to get all the way aeound im pretty sure that would be a WWRREEECCCKKKK!!!!!!! hahahahahaha
 
so does it matter if the spin is at the same time as the flip or after? because I've seen some over/underflips and theyre more or less a 90 and then an uphill or downhill lincoln and then a 90 same direction if I'm not mistaken. but check out this edit and look at 41 secs

https://newschoolers.com/web/content/viewvideo/id/259698/

that tricks seems kind of unique to what's already been said, but is fairly common.

 
Actually I think you meant a "branny". That is a gymnastics move, but actually Shane was the first person I know of who did it on skis. Just one more reason to miss him.
 
well also there is the lincon 3 which is in esscense a shitty rodeo 7......really fun but i was told it looked like shit....i still cant do rodeos right
 
actually you and the other dude who corrected you are both wrong, its called a baraniand its actually really similar to a misty, which is NOT a front flip with a spin
take something flat, like a tv remote like im doing right now, and make one side the front and one the backand make it do a perfect front flip, straight forwardsnow do the same thing, but at the very end pretty much, make it do a 180THATS a barani, a shitty one albeit if its that late, but thats what it is
a misty, however, is like a front flip but with a shoulder droppedthe best way ive heard it explained is this: think of running up to a picnic table and trying to roll on it, and keep your speed/ momentum going what you're going to do is run up to it, drop your right shoulder if you're a left spinner so that you're gonna be sideways to the table on your back, roll along it and then come off it at the endthats just sorta what the take off to a misty isand to ppl who said its a 360 cause of the flip and a 180 cause of the spin, its notits kind of a debatable amount of spinning in it, much to the same way a cork 720 isnt a 7 really, but its not like a 3 or a 180 or anything
because of the off axis nature, no easily determined sideways spin can be affixed to it, but it is more than 360 at least, depending on the personsome it looks like they're spinning like crazy, others, not at all
off axis shits weird.
 
If you mean something like 90-lincoln-90, then it's an overflip or underflip, depending if you flip forwards or backwards.
 
Actually, you are wrong. I never said it was a brawny flip, I said I had never heard of it. And you are correct on the misty thing. That is exactly what I was trying to say. When I do them I throw them like I am rolling over a barrel. I consider that a spin... and that's why I said a front with a spin.
Explaining flips with text is extremely hard and I'm sure a lot of the time two people who argue about how a flip is thrown actually have the same flip in mind, just two different ways of explaining it that don't sound the same.
 
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