What are Trump protesters expecting to achieve?

[User1]

I'll start out by saying that I'm not a fan of trump at all but i just don't understand what the expected outcome is of protesting his inauguration. It is extremely unlikely that he will resign due to protests and in order to have him removed from office he has to commit a crime. It would be interesting to hear from some people who went to the rallies or know people who did.

 

[cornholio]

america will get a 2nd president for these people, since they are unwilling to accept trump #notmypresident

 

[arnie_grape]

I'd like to know how many of the people out there marching didn't actually vote.

 

[S.J.W]

Probably the same thing as anti obama protests... Voice their opinion and ensure people who have similar views to them know they're not alone.

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[AwR]

This was taken from another website as a heads up.

It's a fair question.

A lot of women are concerned that sexual assault and misogyny are being normalized. The tapes with Trump bragging about his ability to sexually assault women is concerning, especially when the public seemed to not care about it enough to rule him out as the leader of our country. Turns out sexual assault is a serious issue with a lot of silent victims who prefer to not reward people who brag about their abuses, because that would make it normal.

Trump and the GOP has also made one of their first order of business items to be to remove funding from Planned Parenthood. This is an organization that greatly benefits women, primarily in contraceptives, education, and preventative diagnosis. This organization especially helps the poor who may not be able to afford other clinics.

Pence has also made remarks about how maybe Roe v Wade should be overturned, and states should decide. Whatever your opinion on abortion may be, this is a path towards stripping women of their rights.

At worst, this was a cathartic event for like minded people to join together and realize that they aren't alone. What does that harm?

 

[TheDoughAbides]

To peacefully assert their presence in the nation and throughout the world as a group of like-minded individuals. Unfortunately some anarchists in dc decided to smash up a bank and a starbucks. Although I can't say I didn't enjoy watching richard spencer getting decked by one of them as he was preparing for an interview.

 

[cornholio]

This was taken from another website as a heads up.

It's a fair question.

A lot of women are concerned that sexual assault and misogyny are being normalized. The tapes with Trump bragging about his ability to sexually assault women is concerning, especially when the public seemed to not care about it enough to rule him out as the leader of our country. Turns out sexual assault is a serious issue with a lot of silent victims who prefer to not reward people who brag about their abuses, because that would make it normal.

Trump and the GOP has also made one of their first order of business items to be to remove funding from Planned Parenthood. This is an organization that greatly benefits women, primarily in contraceptives, education, and preventative diagnosis. This organization especially helps the poor who may not be able to afford other clinics.

Pence has also made remarks about how maybe Roe v Wade should be overturned, and states should decide. Whatever your opinion on abortion may be, this is a path towards stripping women of their rights.

At worst, this was a cathartic event for like minded people to join together and realize that they aren't alone. What does that harm?

Im with you, let's end womens suffrage right now

 

[weedoo]

I wish people would realize the second Trump would actually try ANYTHING illegal, the house would most likely vote to impeach him. The elections this year were a joke, I didn't vote because I'm not american but even if I was, I couldn't bring myself to support either parties, but people should just hold on, and wait to see if he actually at least TRIES to perform what he promised (Which I doubt he will but whatever) and if he doesn't, protesting will make sense once again. But right now, protesting won't do shit other than just to make some headlines on the news, at least for right now.

 

[eheath]

Clearly a protest like this won't change anything, it will just start a conversation and thats all that needs to be done. The same shit happened with occupy wallstreet and black lives matter movements. They don't actually change anything, but it starts a conversation about the issues that will ultimately contribute to change in the future.

 

[corona]

I hope a lot of them realize they're protesting democracy. Protesting certain policies or his racist and sexist views is fine, but those protesting the fact that he got elected (which seems to be most protesters) are dumb.

 

[Rparr]

I hope a lot of them realize they're protesting democracy. Protesting certain policies or his racist and sexist views is fine, but those protesting the fact that he got elected (which seems to be most protesters) are dumb.

"but the electoral college is bullshit when it works against me!"

is all I hear

 

[XtRemE11]

I'm still pretty confused about what they were trying to accomplish, i got different answers from the 4 people I know who marched, it mostly seemed like they didn't really know, just kind of wanted to March because they we're told they're oppressed and should bitch about it, no specifics, just said there's inequality, some how, they must be, the news and their college culture says they are.

I find it ridiculously hard to have a conversation about the "issues" most milenials complain about. I try to offer a counterpoint and out come the labels. In this case, trying to discuss if women are less in fact paid less than men. If I bring up a counter argument, or show statistics that argue otherwise, I'm sexist. And once that labels thrown out, I can't be right. Anything I say will be wrong. It's insanely annoying.

It's like a new breed of bigots, hip bigots. We want equality, but only in the exact way we want. You're pro life? you must hate women. You don't agree with BLM? You're racist. They're super accepting of people that hold the same opinion, but they've got a whole list of labels for you if your opinion differs. As far as I can tell they're just using the same thinking, same logic as any racist/bigot/sexist/hateful, just in a way that happens to be hip and acceptable in our culture at this certain time.

I know it's probably the bad apples making most look bad, but damn is it counterproductive, most the coverage I saw of these marches just seemed pretty unaccepting and hateful for the most part, sure some good stuff too, but the hate definitely stood out more.

 

[Campeador]

Those on the far-Left never miss an opportunity to show how classy and "non-violent" they are.

How much garbage have they left in the streets so far? How many millions in damage?

 

[californiagrown]

I hope a lot of them realize they're protesting democracy. Protesting certain policies or his racist and sexist views is fine, but those protesting the fact that he got elected (which seems to be most protesters) are dumb.

It's a protest to make it clear to the country and the representatives in Congress that a very significant portion of this country does not support the (very vague) policies of the president. It is meant to rally support to fight policies they disagree with.

Trump won. Full stop.

But it was no landslide, and more than half the country voted against him. Folks want to send the message that a huge number of folks disagree with him and his platform and as the president of America (not just his upporters) he should value their views.

 

[Campeador]

These are the same morons who went out for OWS, and never could quite figure out what they were protesting.

 

[milk_man]

I think they're hoping that this will be a change from a democracy to a mob rule type government. Even though this was a peaceful protest, many haven't been. They don't want to vote because social media and figureheads say that your vote doesn't matter, so instead they do things that don't change much in a democracy.

 

[californiagrown]

I think they're hoping that this will be a change from a democracy to a mob rule type government. Even though this was a peaceful protest, many haven't been. They don't want to vote because social media and figureheads say that your vote doesn't matter, so instead they do things that don't change much in a democracy.

Protests aren't democratic?

Protests don't change much in a democracy?

History says different, but hey, why let facts get in the way of your opinion?

 

[DirtYStylE]

They don't actually change anything, but it starts a conversation about the issues that will ultimately contribute to change in the future.

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[tac0.slayer]

The fact that so many people are legitimately angry about peaceful protest is just sad.

Some idiots actions in Washington DC shouldn't delegitimizate an entire movment or diminish the points being made.

 

[AwR]

Those on the far-Left never miss an opportunity to show how classy and "non-violent" they are.

How much garbage have they left in the streets so far? How many millions in damage?

Millions in damage?

 

[McNoche]

america will get a 2nd president for these people, since they are unwilling to accept trump #notmypresident

What's it like going through life with a vagina

 

[Campeador]

Millions in damage?

Since November 8th, easily.

 

[tomatonater]

Hell, I'm just glad the Clinton reign is over

 

[cornholio]

What's it like going through life with a vagina

I don't know. You would have to ask the protesters

 

[buddychaps]

Clearly a protest like this won't change anything, it will just start a conversation and thats all that needs to be done. The same shit happened with occupy wallstreet and black lives matter movements. They don't actually change anything, but it starts a conversation about the issues that will ultimately contribute to change in the future.

This. Especially since this was THE largest protest in history. Countries across the globe got involved to protest, not just the US. The more people that stand up for something, the bigger the effect.

 

[Campeador]

The Left desperately gasping for air as their dreams of globalism (and the shadow caliphate) slip from their grasp.

 

[arnie_grape]

The Left desperately gasping for air as their dreams of globalism (and the shadow caliphate) slip from their grasp.

as the last of the white trash hillbilly bigots cling to their last term of backwards ass fuckery before america inevitably either crushes itself under the weight of its own stupidity or becomes a country half as decent as every other first world nation.

 

[Drail]

\why let facts get in the way of your opinion?

I'm more into 'alternative' facts myself.

 

[iH8pow]

I know they hate guns, but why aren't they flocking to hoard up on guns?

They talk about how horrible, oppressive, Hitler-ish Trump is. If they really think he's the next Hitler, why the fuck aren't they arming themselves to the core? They're all talk

 

[robbinJAHood]

If you can look up some of the speeches of the influential women that spoke at the marches around the world, it will probably give you some insight to what it was about. You'll probably come to realize that each person was marching for a different reason. I had a long post typed up about it, but in reality I just don't think I have the right words to explain what's going on for our world so I'll just let someone else's words speak this time. As an 18 year old girl, I know it's horrifying to hear a man say to me the kind of things that Trump says about and to women. I feel so bad for his daughter. The things he says to her, just on camera, are disgusting and creepy.

If you can't find any speeches, look up Alicia Keys's speech and you should be able to find others along with hers.

 

[Campeador]

So you're saying that you don't have any real goals, you're just venting about being upset that Trump hasn't talked to women nicely enough for you.

For those with more than half a brain, we care more about who can best run the country, it's not a role model competition.

 

[onenerdykid]

For those with more than half a brain, we care more about who can best run the country, it's not a role model competition.

I don't know about that... there are for sure lots of people who are emboldened by Trump, by what he says, by how he acts. People look to him as a leader and will follow him and act like him. In that regard, he is very much in the position as a role model. The leader of our country should be a role model we ought to follow. I don't think who can best run our country is a separate issue from being a role model.

 

[californiagrown]

So you're saying that you don't have any real goals, you're just venting about being upset that Trump hasn't talked to women nicely enough for you.

For those with more than half a brain, we care more about who can best run the country, it's not a role model competition.

Bragging about comitting sexual assault...So hawt right now.

For those with more than half a brain, we care about improving societal conditions for all Americans. This country isn't an LLC.

 

[Campeador]

As an 18 year old girl, I know it's horrifying to hear a man say to me the kind of things that Trump says about and to women.

And furthermore, here you are supporting far-left "movements" that also contribute towards the massive numbers of of rapes and sexual assaults in Europe, through the promotion of mass importation of military-aged male "refugees" that prey wholesale on young women, as well as young girls (and boys), with almost no consequence.

You need to reevaluate what you find "horrifying".

 

[Campeador]

Bragging about comitting sexual assault...So hawt right now.

For those with more than half a brain, we care about improving societal conditions for all Americans. This country isn't an LLC.

Right, the same way members of the Left "caring about improving societal conditions" have been working wonders in Western Europe.

If that's any sort of crystal ball, now is the time more than ever to fight back against folks like you. Your track record is abysmal.

 

[californiagrown]

Right, the same way members of the Left "caring about improving societal conditions" have been working wonders in Western Europe.

If that's any sort of crystal ball, now is the time more than ever to fight back against folks like you. Your track record is abysmal.

"Folks like [me]"?

What is my track record? And what do I believe? I'd be willing to bet you don't know... Largely cause you've never asked haha.

But hey, don't respond to what I said, just grab a topic from left field and assign me negative characteristics

 

[Campeador]

I don't know about that... there are for sure lots of people who are emboldened by Trump, by what he says, by how he acts. People look to him as a leader and will follow him and act like him. In that regard, he is very much in the position as a role model. The leader of our country should be a role model we ought to follow. I don't think who can best run our country is a separate issue from being a role model.

No one is emboldened to sexually assault women because of Donald Trump, that is absurd.

Now, taken a cue from Trump in regards to a realistic perspective on Islam, that may be the case, which is a good thing.

It matters not how good of a "role model" the leader is if he or she hasn't got a clue how to run the country properly.

Now in regards to emboldening sexual assault and rape, it's actually the Left that is guilty of this, through very lenient sentencing (in the few times they even convict) and apologism for "refugee" rapists who are simply "adjusting to the culture".

It's this same left-wing illness that leads judges in Austria to let off child rapists. You want to talk about emboldening, well that's pretty damn emboldening wouldn't you say?

 

[Campeador]

"Folks like [me]"?

What is my track record? And what do I believe? I'd be willing to bet you don't know... Largely cause you've never asked haha.

But hey, don't respond to what I said, just grab a topic from left field and assign me negative characteristics

Well, I do know your sympathies for Islam run quite deep, in that you consider it hardly different from any other religion.

The track record of folks that go around trying to "improve societal conditions" through left-wing policies. By and large, your track record isn't that great.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

 

[californiagrown]

Well, I do know your sympathies for Islam run quite deep, in that you consider it hardly different from any other religion.

The track record of folks that go around trying to "improve societal conditions" through left-wing policies. By and large, your track record isn't that great.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

The civil rights movement, terrible. Social security and govt subsidized healthcare, awful. Public schools, worst idea ever!

We can't judge people based on the content of their character instead of religon or gender or whomever they like to fuck? That's too bad you feel that way.

 

[Campeador]

The civil rights movement, terrible. Social security and govt subsidized healthcare, awful. Public schools, worst idea ever!

We can't judge people based on the content of their character instead of religon or gender or whomever they like to fuck? That's too bad you feel that way.

Bankrupting the country, having black people be worse off economically than in the civil rights era, insolvent social security, broke medicare, a failing public school system.

Again, the intentions are good. In practice, you've been failing for a long time now.

 

[Campeador]

We can't judge people based on the content of their character instead of religon or gender or whomever they like to fuck? That's too bad you feel that way.

I noticed you didn't say race, which is interesting. I guess with all the SJW rhetoric that has become the new platform for the Left, you've kind of thrown that one out the window.

“My job is to shut other white people down when they want to interrupt. My job is to shut other white people down when they want to say, oh, no, I’m not prejudiced. I’m a Democrat. I’m accepting.’ My job is to make sure that they get that they have privilege.”

- Idaho Democratic Party Executive Director and DNC Chair candidate Sally Boynton Brown, January 2017

 

[eheath]

No one is emboldened to sexually assault women because of Donald Trump, that is absurd.

I don't think anyone is saying that, but the fact we KNOW Trump sexually assulted women and people still decided to vote for him is a huge problem. If that happened to a Professional athelte he'd get suspended for a year and be looked down upon. Hell if a normal person did that they would get looked down on.

Sexual assult is a very real problem and Trump getting elected basically said "yeah i made a mistake but its okay sexual assult isnt that big of a deal" which is just appaling to me.

 

[californiagrown]

Bankrupting the country, having black people be worse off economically than in the civil rights era, insolvent social security, broke medicare, a failing public school system.

Again, the intentions are good. In practice, you've been failing for a long time now.

You think the civil rights movement was a bad thing for black folks? Lol. You're being contrarian just for the sake of argument in the above paragraph. Something doesn't have to be perfect to be a huge positive... And you know that.

I noticed you didn't say race, which is interesting. I guess with all the SJW rhetoric that has become the new platform for the Left, you've kind of thrown that one out the window.

“My job is to shut other white people down when they want to interrupt. My job is to shut other white people down when they want to say, oh, no, I’m not prejudiced. I’m a Democrat. I’m accepting.’ My job is to make sure that they get that they have privilege.”

- Idaho Democratic Party Executive Director and DNC Chair candidate Sally Boynton Brown, January 2017

See what I mean about not responding to my words and instead pulling a random argument out of left field and assigning me a position on the topic instead? Lol

So you don't think we should judge folks on the content of their character instead of religon, race, sex, etc?

 

[onenerdykid]

No one is emboldened to sexually assault women because of Donald Trump, that is absurd.

Now, taken a cue from Trump in regards to a realistic perspective on Islam, that may be the case, which is a good thing.

It matters not how good of a "role model" the leader is if he or she hasn't got a clue how to run the country properly.

Now in regards to emboldening sexual assault and rape, it's actually the Left that is guilty of this, through very lenient sentencing (in the few times they even convict) and apologism for "refugee" rapists who are simply "adjusting to the culture".

It's this same left-wing illness that leads judges in Austria to let off child rapists. You want to talk about emboldening, well that's pretty damn emboldening wouldn't you say?

It is not necessarily an " either or" argument that a president be a good role model for citizens or be good at his/her job. Both should be the goal and there is no conflict in wanting that. But, when you select a leader who sucks as a role model, it is less good than having both. Why you are trying to split it apart as if it should be that way, I have no idea. I agree that one is more important than the other (a good leader should be that first) but it is a mistake to think it needs to be an either or.

It's very helpful to think of things as a deficient amount, a proper amount, and an excessive amount. When something is a right, there are at least 2 other ways to be wrong. It's not just one is right, one is wrong. So when the left does something wrong, it doesn't automatically mean that the right is correct. They could both be wrong. And this is exactly how I see your argument. When certain people want to give lenient sentences to rapists (of any culture, hello USA?) it is wrong. Giving too much punishment is a wrong, just as too little punishment is, and the proper amount of punishment is correct. It makes NO difference which side of the irrationally made political spectrum you fall on. When you try to label the left as always wrong it is equally as absurd as labeling the right as always wrong. Left and right don't matter at all. Just judge the situation for what it is.

 

[onenerdykid]

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

But so is the road to heaven You can't be a good person without good intentions.

 

[saskskier]

I don't think anyone is saying that, but the fact we KNOW Trump sexually assulted women and people still decided to vote for him is a huge problem. If that happened to a Professional athelte he'd get suspended for a year and be looked down upon. Hell if a normal person did that they would get looked down on.

Sexual assult is a very real problem and Trump getting elected basically said "yeah i made a mistake but its okay sexual assult isnt that big of a deal" which is just appaling to me.

I agree with this.

That said, what percentage of the women protesting also read/watched 50 Shades of Grey, a book/movie that definitely promote violence against women? Isn't the trailer for the second the most watched trailer of all time or something like that? How many watch the Bachelor, a show about a dude hooking up with multiple women at the same time and thinking this is the way to find love? How many watch Scandal, a tv show about a president who is actively cheating on his wife?

Is there not a ton of hypocrisy in criticizing the leader of a nation for a particular behaviour when it's citizens actively participate and support the consumption of media that promotes the very thing they are criticizing him for?

 

[eheath]

I agree with this.

That said, what percentage of the women protesting also read/watched 50 Shades of Grey, a book/movie that definitely promote violence against women? Isn't the trailer for the second the most watched trailer of all time or something like that? How many watch the Bachelor, a show about a dude hooking up with multiple women at the same time and thinking this is the way to find love? How many watch Scandal, a tv show about a president who is actively cheating on his wife?

Is there not a ton of hypocrisy in criticizing the leader of a nation for a particular behaviour when it's citizens actively participate and support the consumption of media that promotes the very thing they are criticizing him for?

You just compared fiction to real life, but I understand what you are saying. Like I said, sexual assault is huge problem.

 

[saskskier]

You just compared fiction to real life, but I understand what you are saying. Like I said, sexual assault is huge problem.

I absolutely agree and am not condoning sexual assault at all. I'm just saying there is a level of hypocrisy there.

It's like saying you shouldn't watch porn because it objectifies and promotes violence against women along with perpetuating human trafficking, but then going home and watching porn.

 

[californiagrown]

I absolutely agree and am not condoning sexual assault at all. I'm just saying there is a level of hypocrisy there.

It's like saying you shouldn't watch porn because it objectifies and promotes violence against women along with perpetuating human trafficking, but then going home and watching porn.

No, its not. That was an awful example.

It would be like saying sexual assault is not okay, and then voting in a president who bragged about sexually assaulting a women.

It's like protesting gun violence, and then voting in a president who bragged about shooting many innocent people for fun.

Movies and videogames are not real life, and any cogent adult knows the difference. They are strictly fantasy... Guilty pleasures... Things people cannot do in real life but are entertained by, because the characters are not real people... They are fictional characters.

Trump bragged about sexually assaulting real women. And yet 100 million people thought a self purported, unrepentant, sexual assaulter of women would be good as the most powerful, most influential person in the world.

 

[Campeador]

I don't think anyone is saying that, but the fact we KNOW Trump sexually assulted women and people still decided to vote for him is a huge problem. If that happened to a Professional athelte he'd get suspended for a year and be looked down upon. Hell if a normal person did that they would get looked down on.

Sexual assult is a very real problem and Trump getting elected basically said "yeah i made a mistake but its okay sexual assult isnt that big of a deal" which is just appaling to me.

How do you "KNOW", exactly? Even in his recording he crudely talks how they let him do it. Few people were swayed by the left-wing media's made-up narrative. Perhaps if they had given him fair coverage before, more would have been swayed.

I'm sure you're going to talk about those women who came forth very conveniently only a month before the election, just about all of them were proven to be liars.

You call sexual assault a huge problem, yet your positions suggest otherwise.

You get upset when I talk poorly about the people who engage in sexual assault in the largest numbers, Muslim men, and the religion that actively promotes sexual assault, Islam.

You also had no problem in supporting a woman (even tacitly) who has a husband who was (and probably continues to be) an actual sexual predator.

Few people can fit that much cognitive dissonance into one frame, but you're a special case.

 

[eheath]

How do you "KNOW", exactly? Even in his recording he crudely talks how they let him do it. Few people were swayed by the left-wing media's made-up narrative. Perhaps if they had given him fair coverage before, more would have been swayed.

I'm sure you're going to talk about those women who came forth very conveniently only a month before the election, just about all of them were proven to be liars.

You call sexual assault a huge problem, yet your positions suggest otherwise.

You get upset when I talk poorly about the people who engage in sexual assault in the largest numbers, Muslim men, and the religion that actively promotes sexual assault, Islam.

You also had no problem in supporting a woman (even tacitly) who has a husband who was (and probably continues to be) an actual sexual predator.

Few people can fit that much cognitive dissonance into one frame, but you're a special case.

Ha, I knew you'd bring islam/muslums into this. You are the worst kind of troll.