What are mogul skiers like?

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In the fourth episode of the podcast i discussed with Mikael Kingsbury , a professional mogul skier

If you're not familiar, Mik is the GOAT of mogul skiing. He won the silver medal in Sochi, gold in Pyeongchang, has 18 crystal globes, and close to 90 podiums on the world cup circuit.

He is a skier at heart and loves park skiing. We discussed Moguls and the progression/restrictions in that sport and his love for park skiing.

Let me know your thoughts on this episode

 
Too lazy to find a Glen Plake interview where he says something like 'it doesnt mean your a good skier if you count to 3 and hurl yourself off the palisades at squaw. You want to see the good skiers, look in the mogul fields just below them. Thats where the real skill is'

I've always liked that a lot
 
14227724:Bushdid9_11 said:
Too lazy to find a Glen Plake interview where he says something like 'it doesnt mean your a good skier if you count to 3 and hurl yourself off the palisades at squaw. You want to see the good skiers, look in the mogul fields just below them. Thats where the real skill is'

I've always liked that a lot
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much respect to Plake of course but these quotes/arguments are so stupid. "[reductive description of another discipline], ______ is where the *REAL skiers are, maaan."

makes us sound like those super hardo music fans who argue over what to call sub-genres of sub-genres that 99.9% of the world couldn't give a shit about. moguls are super dope and their skills are top shelf but uh there's a reason there was a rebellion against that discipline so strong that it birthed the current newschool/freeride discipline
 
topic:Mayrandpodcast said:
In the fourth episode of the podcast i discussed with Mikael Kingsbury , a professional mogul skier

If you're not familiar, Mik is the GOAT of mogul skiing. He won the silver medal in Sochi, gold in Pyeongchang, has 18 crystal globes, and close to 90 podiums on the world cup circuit.

He is a skier at heart and loves park skiing. We discussed Moguls and the progression/restrictions in that sport and his love for park skiing.

Let me know your thoughts on this episode

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Very nice. Back in the day, Jonny Moseley was my hero.
 
14227734:SofaKingSick said:
much respect to Plake of course but these quotes/arguments are so stupid. "[reductive description of another discipline], ______ is where the *REAL skiers are, maaan."

makes us sound like those super hardo music fans who argue over what to call sub-genres of sub-genres that 99.9% of the world couldn't give a shit about. moguls are super dope and their skills are top shelf but uh there's a reason there was a rebellion against that discipline so strong that it birthed the current newschool/freeride discipline
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Thank you professor ski history we are indeed the children of those who overthrew the mogul tyranny
 
14227922:Bushdid9_11 said:
Thank you professor ski history we are indeed the children of those who overthrew the mogul tyranny
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It was the mogul skiers themselves that rebelled against the rigid competition rules and tricks being banned.
 
comp mogul skiing is sick until you realize you've gone through a year's worth of knee cartilage in one run
 
Mogul skiing is fucking gnarly. Most park features you just slide once you crash. On a mogul course you got a much shorter landing with an outrun that you don't wanna go through sliding on your side.
 
14227922:Bushdid9_11 said:
Thank you professor ski history we are indeed the children of those who overthrew the mogul tyranny
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Nothing so dramatic, just that it's a small sliver of the sport and has/had super limiting rules

So declaring that there's a premier skiing discipline and it's the one that's on the bump run at the bottom of the mtn just seems like a weird claim to me
 
14227974:SofaKingSick said:
Nothing so dramatic, just that it's a small sliver of the sport and has/had super limiting rules

So declaring that there's a premier skiing discipline and it's the one that's on the bump run at the bottom of the mtn just seems like a weird claim to me
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Not claiming that its the supreme discipline or whatever, but I'm convinced that moguls are the best ski workout you can get while still using a chairlift. I'm equally sure that if you want to build confidence skiing anything treed or ungroomed, bump runs are the best training scenario. Classical mogul skiers are fit as fuck, faster and smoother than you'd believe in the glades, and have jump steeze that park rats get jealous of. I think the point of that Plake quote is that anyone really can fall off a cliff into some pow and be chillin, but nobody can throw down a good zippered bump line unless they've got years of experience and some serious long-burning ski stoke with em. Plus it's less gear reliant than traditional racing.

I've never been on a mogul team or anything lol I just love skiing them
 
personally hate how the aerials look in moguls (which is what I'm calling them because that's what they are). Park skiing introduces interesting new rotational axes and grabs/tweaks that just look good. I don't really care to see back scratchers and iron crosses on flat axes. There is no creative energy that radiates from a back full.

Mogul skiers are good at skiing and are technically proficient, but don't forget that park freestyle is more of an art form while moguls is really not. This is also why comps have always been controversial among freestyle skiers.
 
14228086:shinbangclan said:
personally hate how the aerials look in moguls (which is what I'm calling them because that's what they are). Park skiing introduces interesting new rotational axes and grabs/tweaks that just look good. I don't really care to see back scratchers and iron crosses on flat axes. There is no creative energy that radiates from a back full.

Mogul skiers are good at skiing and are technically proficient, but don't forget that park freestyle is more of an art form while moguls is really not. This is also why comps have always been controversial among freestyle skiers.
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Dude, IDT you know the history of FIS mogul competitions.

Do you know who Jonny Moseley is? Do you know what he had to fight for?
 
14228086:shinbangclan said:
personally hate how the aerials look in moguls (which is what I'm calling them because that's what they are). Park skiing introduces interesting new rotational axes and grabs/tweaks that just look good. I don't really care to see back scratchers and iron crosses on flat axes. There is no creative energy that radiates from a back full.

Mogul skiers are good at skiing and are technically proficient, but don't forget that park freestyle is more of an art form while moguls is really not. This is also why comps have always been controversial among freestyle skiers.
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Found it. Dinner Roll.

 
14228498:DominatorJacques said:
Dude, IDT you know the history of FIS mogul competitions.

Do you know who Jonny Moseley is? Do you know what he had to fight for?
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Never heard of him until you just told me. I have to appreciate his contribution to skiing. Sick trick. But as the video said, that evolved into freestyle skiing and not moguls, which is why I like freestyle skiing, and not moguls!
 
Tanner, candidate, etc. All started with moguls. Moguls were the Big Bang of freestyle skiing

14228628:shinbangclan said:
Never heard of him until you just told me. I have to appreciate his contribution to skiing. Sick trick. But as the video said, that evolved into freestyle skiing and not moguls, which is why I like freestyle skiing, and not moguls!
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14228628:shinbangclan said:
Never heard of him until you just told me. I have to appreciate his contribution to skiing. Sick trick. But as the video said, that evolved into freestyle skiing and not moguls, which is why I like freestyle skiing, and not moguls!
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It's all good. Moguls will beat the crap out of a skier, and put them to the test! Brutal sport!
 
14228670:freestyler540 said:
Holy shit, dude hit the concrete and skied away from it. That guy is hard as fuck
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I believe the dude went on the win the next race, taking 3rd overall. Legend.
 
I don't know if any of you listened to the podcast, but Kingsbury is the GOAT of mogul skiing. He actually had some interesting things to say as to how to change the sport to make it more innovative and more like the slopestyle skiing we're more used to. Things like rewarding grabs and spinning both directions, and making the run in to the second air a little longer to make it easier to do crazier airs. Unfortunately the powers that be are slow to change.

I can tell you from personal experience. Back in the 90's I'd sit in these meetings and ask these people why 3 twisters scored the same as a 3 with position. I'm like if they are the same difficulty, why is everyone doing tw/tw/sp instead of spinning? One is obviously more difficult, but if they score the same everyone is going to do the safer trick. Unfortunately the twister fest continued until after Mosley threw that Dinner Roll, but by then the NewSchool had taken over and it was a little to late to save the sport. Sad because it's really the most athletically and technically demanding sport around.
 
14228893:3mania said:
I don't know if any of you listened to the podcast, but Kingsbury is the GOAT of mogul skiing. He actually had some interesting things to say as to how to change the sport to make it more innovative and more like the slopestyle skiing we're more used to. Things like rewarding grabs and spinning both directions, and making the run in to the second air a little longer to make it easier to do crazier airs. Unfortunately the powers that be are slow to change.

I can tell you from personal experience. Back in the 90's I'd sit in these meetings and ask these people why 3 twisters scored the same as a 3 with position. I'm like if they are the same difficulty, why is everyone doing tw/tw/sp instead of spinning? One is obviously more difficult, but if they score the same everyone is going to do the safer trick. Unfortunately the twister fest continued until after Mosley threw that Dinner Roll, but by then the NewSchool had taken over and it was a little to late to save the sport. Sad because it's really the most athletically and technically demanding sport around.
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thanks for listening ah! it seems like people went it to the classic NS argument about halft-empy / half-full glass

Yeah Mik is a really cool dude (in addition to being the goat of mogul skiing) . he has a lot cool input as he is all-in into mogul skiing but is also a park skier and a fan of park skiing.
 
14228086:shinbangclan said:
personally hate how the aerials look in moguls (which is what I'm calling them because that's what they are). Park skiing introduces interesting new rotational axes and grabs/tweaks that just look good. I don't really care to see back scratchers and iron crosses on flat axes. There is no creative energy that radiates from a back full.

Mogul skiers are good at skiing and are technically proficient, but don't forget that park freestyle is more of an art form while moguls is really not. This is also why comps have always been controversial among freestyle skiers.
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We need slopestyle moguls. In between the bump runs instead of aerial jumps, throw in some rails and at the end a big air jump. Sounds dangerous as fuck but I’d watch
 
14228976:ski_salmon69 said:
We need slopestyle moguls. In between the bump runs instead of aerial jumps, throw in some rails and at the end a big air jump. Sounds dangerous as fuck but I’d watch
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Mogul ski joring?

**This post was edited on Jan 17th 2021 at 11:13:52am
 
14227535:BradFiAusNzCoCa said:
Mogul skiers love full tilts and look pivots. They are our brothers from another mothers
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mogul skiers sometimes get some good gear too lol, they got mad hookups on pivots

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14228997:DeebieSkeebies said:
mogul skiers sometimes get some good gear too lol, they got mad hookups on pivots

**This post was edited on Jan 17th 2021 at 12:06:45pm
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Yeah, but all those pivots have 75 mm brakes.
 
Moguls are so fun as long as you know how to ski em. Jumping them is sweet too. Screw the skinny stuff too. I ski a 108 and a 122 just fine in em.
 
mogul skiing is kinda sick in the spring when its all slushy and shit but when it is just ice between the bumps it fucking sucks
 
Ive skiied that slope but not when it had moguls. It’s fucking steep but fun

14287200:mikemac said:

kids nothing will give you a stronger all around skiing background w that proper freestyle/air awareness.... yeah it’s a niche sport and you probably won’t make the Olympic BUT it’s a fantastic foundation for any subsequent Freeride/newschool endeavorz. Do it if you can youngsters!
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if you can leg press 800 pounds lime these mogul skiers can and you cant slay park then ur a fukn pussy.

adam delorme and pep fujas both seem to ski with that narrow hip mogul skiers style which makes sense bc they both were mogul skiers growing up

[video]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=so5i58KarOM[/video]
 
This is what i try to make my short turn game look like. I'm interested to hear what other NSers think of this style
 
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