i always heard that it fits massive, but i don't really know about that. In the past I had worn a pair of sessions pants in medium that were massive on me. I'm like 5' 4" or something, but they fit huge. So when saga has their closeout sales at the end of last year, and me hearing about how they fit massive, i figure medium, right? Wrong. They're tight on my legs and look ridiculous if I don't sag them a ton. So that was a wasted investment, probably never going to wear them.