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mach3freeskier

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i know its kinda a dumb question but what do any of you recomend or not recommend for wax, different brands? iron on rub in? do it yourself or pay a shop?

 
use the iron and wax that shit yourself. paying a shop $ to wax your skis is like throwing your money away. i don't really have any specific brand......this season i just used some all-temp burton red wax and now since it's spring i got some generic high-temp wax for slush

-Strode

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find a cheap iron, a huge block of all temp snowboard wax, a scraper and a nylon brush, it all shouldn't cost much at all. Hold the wax on the iron and the wax will drip onto the base, then move the iron up and down the base melting and distributing the wax. NEVER hold the iron on the same spot, make sure it's always moving. After this is done, let it cool 10 minutes, then run the scraper down the ski until desired amount is taken off. Brush the skis tip to tail if you want to put some texture in, helps you go faster.

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i got a full tune kit (wax, pad, wire brush, egde tool, 2 files, 3 stones, and a scraper) for $50, but it was on mad sale. my iron was like $4 at walmart, but it's just a cheap one and i've heard it can be bad to wax your skis with an iron that has holes in the bottom (i haven't had any problems though and i've used it about 10 times)

-Strode

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oh and at this time of year base cleaner helps too.....a bottle is about $7.....just make sure you wax after you clean your bases because that stuff makes your bases bone dry which is bad.

-Strode

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get irons at goodwill. You can find ones without holes in the bottom and they are all like 2 bucks. they work perfectly

 
You need wax, but do it your self. Depends on what kind of riding you do. Like the rub on stuff is good for 'on the day stuff.' but for season-wise you should use wax. Zardox is very good rub on stuff. But for the rest of the season use like some rail wax, most big hills have it.

 
What the mushroom guy said, he knows his shit. I use Toko wax most of the time for work, but we use generic wax on customers stuff. Have a look at the wax temperature range (with the toko stuff if you want to get fussy) to get what you need. Ask some local shops as well, they kinda do this stuff all day every day. With the scraper, scrape until you can scrape no more wax off, that will give you best peformance, just dont rip the base out the ski out. Then go at it with the brush, we have one on a drill at work, sooooooooooooo easy. Dont use the high fluoro waxes all the time, they will really dry your bases out and slow you down. You can use them occasionally, but they are best used in conjunction with a low flouro wax, ie your everyday cheap crap.

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I take my skis to a ski shop twice a season,for a full intensive care(wax,edges,bases filled etc.) and it's like 27 euros x2,not that much,and they have never fucked up,so I'll continue doing that. I have some fluoride rub-on wax for the spring,it works perfectly.

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purl wax if you can get a hold of it is kick ass.

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i've heard you should rewax about every 4-6 times you go skiing depending on the snow and amount of skiing. i doubt i'll ever do it every time or every day. if i can figure out a good easy way to do it myself i'm not gonna wax them too often. any way my bases are red and i can easily tell when the wax is being drawn out.

 
^^your skiing all mountain and park. What your sayin Frezzy is what people who race do to their skis. Your not hitting any gates are you?

-Pat

 
its not like only racers can have fast skis...if you wax the correct way, you will notice a big difference.

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yeah i guess... if you need the speed on your twintips. I race and don't even wax my twintips more thatn three times a year.

-Pat

 
I forgot, if you have really dry bases, which is where they are white instead of the colour they should be, then put on some wax, and leave them somewhere warm for a few hours at least, overnight if possible. Note I said warm, not resting on a heater, somewhere they will melt. This will let the wax soak in to the base, and will last longer. Basically, the longer the wax is left on before you scrape it, the better and longer it will work.

Oh, and freezy^, you are one dedicated dude to be doing all of that everyday. I wax my skis at least every two days at work, but thats because I get paid to do it (I get paid to do something else, but I wax anyways). I definitely dont do the whole race wax every time. In the words of crush, 'You got some serious thrill issues dude.'

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The wax pad cleans the wax out of the structure of the ski. You can leave the wax on there, and ski it off, but it will slow you down heaps until its gone. The wax you actually want to use seeps out of the base as you ski. Most people (punters anyway) dont realise this, and if they cant see wax, they think the base is dry.

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I think waxing is real important, I dont see how freezy does all that race prep stuff everyday, but still, i like to wax mine every 2-5 times i go up. all my frinends are lazy ass hell and never ever wax their skis and say its not important. Then they all whine like bitches when the snow is slow and theyre all casing the tables.

My point is, waxing twin tips is necessary to clear tables.

 
I wax my skis every 2-3 times that I ski, and try to tune them every time I ski. It really doesn't take too long once you get used to doing it, and can even be fun.

-Sara

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her is a link. they tell you how to do everything. and everything you need.
http://www.kuu.com/how2tune.htm

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waxing skis keeps them fast, makes em last longer, and protects the bases.

you dont have to get intotemp specific waxes, just go for swix universal warm. you can usually buy 4 big blocks of it for 20$

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a couple good things to know based on reading this thread:

Yes, Freezy, you are a little over-zealous about waxing, but you are right, you cannot do it too much, I used to wax before everytime I skied, and I admit now I was a little over-zealous, but my skis always skied great.

Freezy, just keep in mind that when you start going out and buying different irons for different waxes to prevent wax contamination, then you definately need help (a lot of world cup tuners will have different irons and brushes).

Strode, the reason that holes in the iron are bad is that they ''grab'' moisture and can rust, and the last thing you want is rust getting into your bases.

Also, anyone tempted to use pure flouro additives, know what you are doing, to properly apply most of them, you need to have the iron super hot, and if you don't know what you are doing you can very easily screw up your bases (mainly seal the pores of the base).

Having a good variety of waxes will come in handy since the snow conditions are always changing so much, all temp wax only does so much.

A couple good money saving bits:

Buy your files at a hardware store, they are typically around $5, instead of $12-$20 in a ski shop. Most base cleaners are just acitone, and at a ski shop, a pint will cost $15 (give or take a couple), while if you go to the hardware store again, you can get gallons for about $10. If you are serious about waxing your own skis, buy bulk wax, you will save a ton in the long run. And if you think buying all the stuff and learning to tune is expensive, think about how much money you spend in 5 years on getting your skis tuned, in the long run you can save money, get a much better understanding of tuning and techniques, and you have the control over the quality of the tune. There is nothing worse than paying your hard earned money for a tune, for it only to be screwed up by a shop monkey (no offense intended to anyone here, just making a comment that a lot of shops have some pretty bad tuners with old habits - i.e. detuning tips and tails, this is a big gripe with me).

Personally, I get my skis stone ground and tuned up by a shop before the season starts, and I retune by hand before my first day on snow and maintain them all year, regular maintainence is a bit tedious at times, but your skis will thank you, and its easier to take care of them all the time instead of trying to do a lot every once in a while.

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i asked about files and some other stuff for tuning at my ski store and they just gave them to me. you could try that too if the people there are nice.

-Sara

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