Video Resolution

[lelandbroadhurst]

Hey NS, I'm curious to find out what everybody holds as an acceptable video resolution, is 1080 60 now the least acceptable? Or is 720 60 still adequate in terms of viewing pleasure. It would make it a lot cheaper and easier to edit in 720 60 rather than 1080 60 but I'm hesitant to drop down because it seems like people tend to hate on a little worse audio and video quality. So what do you say? 1080 or 720?

 

[jonsvibe]

It honostly depends on what your gonna be putting the video on. If it's insta only, 720 would probs be all good. But if your going for YouTube and that area, 1080 would be apreciated more. Anything really works but 1080 isn't too bad to edit(guess it depends on your computer tho?). Besides, 1080'll be more flexible with what you do with it. Cheers man!

 

[Colby_eubanks]

In 2017 1080 is for sure the base level resolution. You could get away with 720 on Instagram, but that’s about it. I would still shoot 1080 tho because everyone has at least a 1080 screen their viewing on and you can usually tell the difference between 1080 and 720. Also, I wouldn’t get too comfortable shooting in1080 because in a few years 4K will be the new 1080 and you’ll have to switch again.

 

[hi_vis360]

whatever resolution fits your editing style/aesthetic best

 

[eheath]

1080p. Shoot 1080p 60fps if you can, great to edit with, doesn't choke your computer like 4k does. Export everything at 1080p 24fps.

 

[IanAvery-Leaf]

1080p. Shoot 1080p 60fps if you can, great to edit with, doesn't choke your computer like 4k does. Export everything at 1080p 24fps.

its not that simple though, I know you know that but its worth explaining to OP

if you shoot 60fps and edit in a 24fps timeline but don't slow down the clip to 40% (which = 24fps) then you have to skip frames in an uneven way to squeeze 60 into 24. 36 frames are deleted and its not as simple as every other frame like it is going from 60 -> 30fps. Also if you're following the 180 degree shutter rule (which you should, but thats a whole other topic) then converting 60fps to 24fps without slowing the footage also ruins the shutter angle since it can't be 180degrees

I'd argue that its better to shoot 24fps and 60+fps when you know you're slowing it down, and not just shoot 60 for everything even when you know you're keeping it normal speed

 

[eheath]

its not that simple though, I know you know that but its worth explaining to OP

if you shoot 60fps and edit in a 24fps timeline but don't slow down the clip to 40% (which = 24fps) then you have to skip frames in an uneven way to squeeze 60 into 24. 36 frames are deleted and its not as simple as every other frame like it is going from 60 -> 30fps. Also if you're following the 180 degree shutter rule (which you should, but thats a whole other topic) then converting 60fps to 24fps without slowing the footage also ruins the shutter angle since it can't be 180degrees

I'd argue that its better to shoot 24fps and 60+fps when you know you're slowing it down, and not just shoot 60 for everything even when you know you're keeping it normal speed

Everything you just said is based on personal preference, not a fact or how you should do it at all. The things you mentioned are basic guidelines that don't necessarily need to be followed and dont ruin your footage.

I shoot 1080p 60, mostly 1/160 or 1/200, edit in a 60p timeline and export 24fps. You can do it however you want.

 

[IanAvery-Leaf]

Everything you just said is based on personal preference, not a fact or how you should do it at all. The things you mentioned are basic guidelines that don't necessarily need to be followed and dont ruin your footage.

I shoot 1080p 60, mostly 1/160 or 1/200, edit in a 60p timeline and export 24fps. You can do it however you want.

following the 180degree shutter "rule" is indeed personal preference, but I said ruin the shutter angle not ruin your footage. Its a fact that shooting at 60fps or greater makes it impossible to have a 180 degree shutter for a normal speed 24fps export.

It is also a fact that removing 36 frames from 60 to make 24 is unfortunately impossible to do so in a truly even way, like going from 60 -> 30. Whether or not that bothers you is the personal preference. One day I dream there will be a camera that can shoot both 24p 1/48th and 60p+ at the same time but sadly that doesn't exist yet to my knowledge

edit: added "normal speed" to 24fps export, since you can have a perfect 180 degree shutter with 60p 1/120th footage slowed to 40% exported at 24p

**This post was edited on Oct 3rd 2017 at 12:47:37pm

**This post was edited on Oct 3rd 2017 at 12:48:01pm

 

[eheath]

following the 180degree shutter "rule" is indeed personal preference, but I said ruin the shutter angle not ruin your footage. Its a fact that shooting at 60fps or greater makes it impossible to have a 180 degree shutter for a normal speed 24fps export.

It is also a fact that removing 36 frames from 60 to make 24 is unfortunately impossible to do so in a truly even way, like going from 60 -> 30. Whether or not that bothers you is the personal preference. One day I dream there will be a camera that can shoot both 24p 1/48th and 60p+ at the same time but sadly that doesn't exist yet to my knowledge

edit: added "normal speed" to 24fps export, since you can have a perfect 180 degree shutter with 60p 1/120th footage slowed to 40% exported at 24p

**This post was edited on Oct 3rd 2017 at 12:47:37pm

**This post was edited on Oct 3rd 2017 at 12:48:01pm

You care far too much about your shutter angle, just saying. You might notice the most slight difference in your raw footage, but after you export that video to h264, upload it to a player, have it smashed down to 2mbps so it can be played online, no one notices, it doesnt matter. I know some people take their shutter angle as seriously as every other setting on your camera, but for skiing and uploading videos of your homies, its not a huge worry and something we should push so hard on new filmers IMO. Let people figure out the settings they like and do it their own way, rather than jamming a bunch of random numbers down their throat telling them they have to do it this exact way.

TBH i think shooting 1/125 for 60p or 1/48 for 24p looks way too blurry for action videos, stepping up to even 1/250 looks just fine when you're panning super fast or mobbin behind someone hitting a rail. I think shutter angle is something that we should stop pushing so hard and focus on being creative and different from each other. Just my 2 cents.

 

[IanAvery-Leaf]

You care far too much about your shutter angle, just saying. You might notice the most slight difference in your raw footage, but after you export that video to h264, upload it to a player, have it smashed down to 2mbps so it can be played online, no one notices, it doesnt matter. I know some people take their shutter angle as seriously as every other setting on your camera, but for skiing and uploading videos of your homies, its not a huge worry and something we should push so hard on new filmers IMO. Let people figure out the settings they like and do it their own way, rather than jamming a bunch of random numbers down their throat telling them they have to do it this exact way.

TBH i think shooting 1/125 for 60p or 1/48 for 24p looks way too blurry for action videos, stepping up to even 1/250 looks just fine when you're panning super fast or mobbin behind someone hitting a rail. I think shutter angle is something that we should stop pushing so hard and focus on being creative and different from each other. Just my 2 cents.

its true I care a lot about shutter angle, thats where personal preferences come in, but my first comment stemmed from you saying just shoot everything 1080 60p. I think its important for new filmers to understand scenarios where that does and doesn't "work", and not just go by a blanket statement of more is always better and always shoot 60p. If we're strictly talking filming skiing casually, then sure I'm definitely overthinking things, but its still good info to understand as a filmer

 

[lelandbroadhurst]

You care far too much about your shutter angle, just saying. You might notice the most slight difference in your raw footage, but after you export that video to h264, upload it to a player, have it smashed down to 2mbps so it can be played online, no one notices, it doesnt matter. I know some people take their shutter angle as seriously as every other setting on your camera, but for skiing and uploading videos of your homies, its not a huge worry and something we should push so hard on new filmers IMO. Let people figure out the settings they like and do it their own way, rather than jamming a bunch of random numbers down their throat telling them they have to do it this exact way.

TBH i think shooting 1/125 for 60p or 1/48 for 24p looks way too blurry for action videos, stepping up to even 1/250 looks just fine when you're panning super fast or mobbin behind someone hitting a rail. I think shutter angle is something that we should stop pushing so hard and focus on being creative and different from each other. Just my 2 cents.

So what shutter speed do you recommend for filming skiing? For like an all in one general speed.

 

[eheath]

So what shutter speed do you recommend for filming skiing? For like an all in one general speed.

For 60p, anywhere between 1/125 and 1/250, slower for more of a "blur" like you might see in stept edits, higher for more crisp, its all personal preference.