Vail Resorts is at it again...

$450 for an annual parking pass and you’re not even garaunteed a spot? Did I read that correctly?

If skiing ever gets that expensive where I live I’d honestly just stop skiing altogether lol
 
"A limited number of parking season passes will go on sale at www.parkstowe.com/seasonparkingpass on Tuesday, Oct. 11 at 6 p.m. for $450. These passes are only available through ParkStowe.com on a first-come, first-served basis until they are sold out. While these passes do not guarantee a parking spot, they do provide value for our resort regulars who visit throughout the season."

TF? Where is the fucking value in a pass that doesn't actually guarantee you a spot? All it does is make it so you pay 450$ flat instead of the per day fee. But at least you have unlimited access to the free lots too!! Fuck man I might just stay in the midwest. 75$ per ticket too
 
Just grind harder ?????

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The goal is to get people to stay at the resort, basically all vail owned/operated places give free parking to anyone who has a room.

so if people are coming to stay for a few days and they find a non-vail run hotel for $400-500 less it ends up being basically the same as if you just stayed somewhere at Stowe Resort but more convenient.

yes it’s about the money here.
 
14465987:b_in_subtle said:
The goal is to get people to stay at the resort, basically all vail owned/operated places give free parking to anyone who has a room.
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Where does this happen? Do you mean free parking at the skier lots or free parking at the hotel/condo lots? In my experience with lodging operations, parking is dependant on the property; And whether you book through Vail Resorts or elsewhere (ie. VRBO) is irrelevant, the parking policy is the same. Lots are usually owned by the building's HOA or the town.

**This post was edited on Sep 30th 2022 at 3:43:49pm
 
JHMR parking passes are well over $1000 and you’re pretty much guaranteed to not get a spot unless you’re there before 7 or after 12
 
Im glad elitists who own property in the Vail owned towns are getting fucked in the ass hard and dry. Cunts.

This is terrible though. Where is that loser E heath has he made a post defending this shit yet?
 
14466016:PeppermillReno said:
Im glad elitists who own property in the Vail owned towns are getting fucked in the ass hard and dry. Cunts.

This is terrible though. Where is that loser E heath has he made a post defending this shit yet?
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shut up, tourist. this kind of thing doesn't affect your bum ass at all, you give plenty of your money to the vail overlords, eat my taint.
 
14466024:eheath said:
shut up, tourist. this kind of thing doesn't affect your bum ass at all, you give plenty of your money to the vail overlords, eat my taint.
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the Lord has spoken
 
14466027:tdollo said:
the Lord has spoken
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i dont really agree with paid parking, or some wack parking pass, but at this point its not just Vail charging for parking. This was inevitable at all large resorts and has existed at large resorts already, but the insane growth from covid has pushed us into the future 10+ years.
 
14466024:eheath said:
shut up, tourist. this kind of thing doesn't affect your bum ass at all, you give plenty of your money to the vail overlords, eat my taint.
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triggered fool
 
14466005:Static said:
Where does this happen? Do you mean free parking at the skier lots or free parking at the hotel/condo lots? In my experience with lodging operations, parking is dependant on the property; And whether you book through Vail Resorts or elsewhere (ie. VRBO) is irrelevant, the parking policy is the same. Lots are usually owned by the building's HOA or the town.

**This post was edited on Sep 30th 2022 at 3:43:49pm
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Free parking at the place you stay, then you get free shuttles to the base. As I said they want you to have to stay with them as opposed to going elsewhere then just driving up.

On top of that a lot of the vail owned lodging is actually owned by some third party so is essentially an investment property for someone so it’s on vail to protect the demand for that investment.

So if they can’t really beat smaller further away competitors on price they can effectively raise the overall cost of choosing their competitors.
 
14466045:b_in_subtle said:
Free parking at the place you stay, then you get free shuttles to the base.
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The free parking and shuttle is likey available to all guests of that property, whether they booked through Vail resorts or a different 3rd party.

Do you know of any examples where guests are actually comped parking if they book through Vail Resorts, and guests using airbnb to book a unit in the same building are charged? Because like I said, the parking lots are almost always owned by HOAs and towns and they do not give discounts, in my experience.
 
14466056:Static said:
The free parking and shuttle is likey available to all guests of that property, whether they booked through Vail resorts or a different 3rd party.

Do you know of any examples where guests are actually comped parking if they book through Vail Resorts, and guests using airbnb to book a unit in the same building are charged? Because like I said, the parking lots are almost always owned by HOAs and towns and they do not give discounts, in my experience.
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Yeah it doesn’t matter who they book through as long as they are staying at vail operated property. And yes everyone that stays there can use the shuttle to get to and from there.

again, they don’t care who you book through so long as you are at one of their properties. Then you can park your car at the lodge and a shuttle service will pick you up and take you wherever inside the resort. Other people can use the shuttle but they won’t take you to a hotel that isn’t a part of them.

in conclusion if you stay somewhere that is NOT VAIL OPERATED you would be forced to drive your car there and find/pay for parking. But if you stay at a vail operated location you just park your car and forget it until you leave the resort area.
 
14466024:eheath said:
shut up, tourist. this kind of thing doesn't affect your bum ass at all, you give plenty of your money to the vail overlords, eat my taint.
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I haven't had an epic pass in 5 years. Every terrible thing Vail has done you have defended on this forum.

None of the hills on my pass charge for parking. They would go out of business if they pulled that shit in New Hampshire. Sorry you don't have other options and good places to support that aren't on the Ikon or Epic enjoy those crowds this winter.
 
14466070:PeppermillReno said:
I haven't had an epic pass in 5 years. Every terrible thing Vail has done you have defended on this forum.

None of the hills on my pass charge for parking. They would go out of business if they pulled that shit in New Hampshire. Sorry you don't have other options and good places to support that aren't on the Ikon or Epic enjoy those crowds this winter.
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You are a literally gaper, I dont care what you think about anything, you hate locals at any resort because they take up room on the groomers.
 
14466088:eheath said:
You are a literally gaper, I dont care what you think about anything, you hate locals at any resort because they take up room on the groomers.
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I don't like locals because they never ski unless its a pow day and then their instagram look at me ass has to be out there to post about waiting for first chair. Of course these folks don't work and were born with their hand in someones pocket so can always make it out for a Wednesday dump. They'll brag about how they don't ski on weekends to avoid the crowds and shit. 'OK dude cool I got no problem doing a 2 hour day trip on a Saturday and waiting a couple mins a few runs that sounds really core not skiing where you live on a weekend.'

I don't ski western lower 48 if I live New England I'll go to Inner BC, Alaska, or the Alps. Go back to telling people how paid parking is a good thing and Utah needs a gondola or to charge exorbitant tolls.

I had some great times at all the Vail resorts 5-15 years ago.
 
I mean like yeah this sucks for the average recreational skier but this really fucks-over resort workers and employees if they don't have an option to park off-site. Given the standard that resorts now will be understaffed, I am willing to bet resorts aren't going to provide shuttles or transit options for people who work at the resorts or businesses/organizations affiliated with them. As a coach, $25/day is taking a lot of your paycheck each month. Sure, its easy to say "ooooOOOooo just carpool everyday" but thats just not realistic with peoples schedules differing. Not every VR property is blessed to have taxpayer-funded transit systems, but maybe all do, IDK, but at least in my town, we have bussing as an option.

Ahhh what fuckin choir am I preaching too at this point. Its the ski industry.

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14466064:b_in_subtle said:
again, they don’t care who you book through so long as you are at one of their properties.
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But the units are individually owned, the only way Vail Resorts makes ANY money off those units is through the 50% commision they get if they are the booking manager. If it's through VRBO, AirBnb, a random SkiTown Property Management company etc. Vail Resorts doesn't get anything from those stays.
 
14466125:Static said:
But the units are individually owned, the only way Vail Resorts makes ANY money off those units is through the 50% commision they get if they are the booking manager. If it's through VRBO, AirBnb, a random SkiTown Property Management company etc. Vail Resorts doesn't get anything from those stays.
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That’s not true, vail essentially acts as the property management company/HOA/etc for the properties on resort so they maintain control. Yes other people “own”/“invested” in it but vail maintains operating rights/powers on all places in the actual resort area.
 
14466140:b_in_subtle said:
That’s not true, vail essentially acts as the property management company/HOA/etc for the properties on resort so they maintain control. Yes other people “own”/“invested” in it but vail maintains operating rights/powers on all places in the actual resort area.
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It's very much true.

They do not act as the sole property manager, they do not act as the HOA either (they may get a vote if they own units or other property in the building). They do not retain rights/powers beyond having contracts with the actual HOAs or owners, unless they also own the property.

They act as "a" property manager with a front desk staff and housekeepers in house. If the actual owner of a unit rented though any other booking platform Vail Resorts does not get any of that money. Vail Resorts' front desk staff do not assist the guests, Vail Resorts' housekeepers do not clean the rooms.

The people who own those units are free to have their property managed by anyone or no one.

You claimed they offer free parking for people who book through Vail Resorts. Anecdotally the 2 main hotels at my resort base both charge for parking, and rooms can be booked directly through Vail Resorts, the front desk is staffed by Vail Resorts employees, but booking directly through them doesn't waive any parking charges.

Fuck Vail, obviously, but i think you're off base on the parking situation for lodging. Vail cares about 1 thing: Selling epic passes during the off season; They dgaf about your experience once you arrive.
 
Lmao reality is funnier than fiction. This could be an Onion article.

I feel bad for locals. This organization clearly doesn’t give a shit about their community or employees. If you pay for a service, you deserve to get what you pay for. Not only do they fuck you over financially, but now you get nothing to show for it. What a joke. Goes to show how deluded their management is.
 
14466289:BrandoComando said:
Lmao reality is funnier than fiction. This could be an Onion article.

I feel bad for locals. This organization clearly doesn’t give a shit about their community or employees. If you pay for a service, you deserve to get what you pay for. Not only do they fuck you over financially, but now you get nothing to show for it. What a joke. Goes to show how deluded their management is.
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Fr man. Could totally be on hard times or onion. They’re deranged at this point. It’s all very… zuckerburg lol
 
Was at Boreal today, and their digital counter said 1200+ vacant parking spots.

Tell your jerry dad to get a fuckin' clue
 
I’m Stoweked to see all the failures this year. Traffic will still be an issue, the parking is already a confusing mess. It’ll be interesting to see how this will effect Sugarbush. Since everyone switched the ikon, I predict Bush will be overcrowded and the traffic / parking issues will just move west off exit 10 this season.
 
This is why I only buy season passes to independent resorts. Vail deemed my home mtn too shitty to buy and for that I'm grateful.
 
I’m not the only one that thinks it should be a federal crime that ski resorts charge for parking on land they don’t even own, right?

For instance I’m 99% sure that Snoqualmie is doing that this year, and the AUDACITY of them to do that… what a joke.

And I bet they’re going to be veiling it by saying it’s to fund the re-paving job they did on the lot this year. Clowns.
 
Bullshit. PCMR, my local mountain is implementing paid parking this season where you have to pay $25 per day unless you carpool with 4 people. Free parking for people who carpool is nice but 4 people seems like a lot and $25 per day is way too greedy. Classic vail
 
14466361:tri_photo said:
I’m not the only one that thinks it should be a federal crime that ski resorts charge for parking on land they don’t even own, right?

For instance I’m 99% sure that Snoqualmie is doing that this year, and the AUDACITY of them to do that… what a joke.

And I bet they’re going to be veiling it by saying it’s to fund the re-paving job they did on the lot this year. Clowns.
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Dang, even Snoqualmie? What a sad day for the ski industry
 
14466348:Lemuel said:
I’m Stoweked to see all the failures this year. Traffic will still be an issue, the parking is already a confusing mess. It’ll be interesting to see how this will effect Sugarbush. Since everyone switched the ikon, I predict Bush will be overcrowded and the traffic / parking issues will just move west off exit 10 this season.
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The Ikon is awful too. And forces you to make reservations. What the fuck bullshit is that if you can't go skiing last minute because you didn't make a reservation?

But again I am happy to be off them and hope people keep buying these things.
 
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