Unpopular opinion thread skier's edition

[Farmville420]

It's a hot take but it's true. Snowboarding has surf and skate originations and was becoming popular in a time where skiing was starting to become only a thing your parents did on vacation and when skiing started to truly become a rich person's sport. We would all be snowboarders had dudes like JF Cusson, Auclair, all the OGs of freeskiing that wanted to say "fuck you" to competitive mogul skiing never decided to start bending their tails in their garages and getting kicked out of snowboard parks

**This post was edited on Jun 12th 2024 at 5:25:09pm

That is very true. Skiers ran so snowboarders could walk, but in terms of the modern age of freeskiing, we all wanted to be like that subconciously.

Maybe your generation, my generation and younger can name maybe 5 pro snowboarders without Google, the new generation does not care even a little a bit. And I'm not even a hater I ride either snowboarders but there's really no feeling of envy at all these days, or even beef. I only ever read about that stuff on here. General concensus these days is "cool people do cool things", meaning nothing is inherently cool but people who are cool will make anything cool.

 

[KungKalmar]

That is very true. Skiers ran so snowboarders could walk, but in terms of the modern age of freeskiing, we all wanted to be like that subconciously.

I don't know how true that is on a bigger scale, but it's true for me.

Big part of inspiration to my skiing style comes from snowboarding. One of my favourite skiing video is a snowboarding video

 

[BradFiAusNzCoCa]

I remember being like 12 and local terrain parks didn’t allow skiers. I remember skiers and snowboarders talking a lot of trash to each other online too.

We’ve come a long way.

Terrain parks literally also were invented by snowboarders so give credit where it's due. No disrespect to the pioneers of extreme/Freeride and freestyle/moguls, but freeskiing can owe snowboarding a lot of credit for influence.

**This post was edited on Jun 12th 2024 at 5:27:09pm

 

[ajbski]

genuinely despise bamboo. i had a pair of liberty helixes and salomon shoguns and wrote off bamboo forever. the only way i could describe the feeling of bamboo is like riding a water logged skate board. idk my opinion. kind of a shame because i really want to try the on3p tour layup skis and its a pretty sustainable wood alternative.

 

[BallClapper]

Yeah I’m gonna go ahead and say that skards are the dumbest fucking thing I’ve ever seen on this site

Sheeeit. Someone should make tards. And it's just the goofiest ns members.

 

[fabbe]

Sheeeit. Someone should make tards. And it's just the goofiest ns members.

all the people on my opps list are tards

 

[KungKalmar]

all the people on my opps list are tards

Why is [tag=290515]@Rock_Inhabitant[/tag] on your opps list. He doesn't seem like a tard

 

[fabbe]

Why is [tag=290515]@Rock_Inhabitant[/tag] on your opps list. He doesn't seem like a tard

I dont remember but its prolly a valid reason

 

[nCrow]

Fat tire and Dale's are gross beers and it kinda sucks they're the ones sponsoring so much ski stuff.

 

[Flacker]

Fat tire and Dale's are gross beers and it kinda sucks they're the ones sponsoring so much ski stuff.

Fat tire is fire, one of the best airport beers out there.

 

[Farmville420]

Thirsty might be the best ski vid literally ever

 

[hi_vis360]

Thirsty might be the best ski vid literally ever

Freed had such a unique editing style and I miss it so much. The short songs, random phone clips, frenetic vibe was so entertaining and fun to watch

 

[Rparr]

Thirsty might be the best ski vid literally ever

I think I have a dvd copy of it somewhere, would you want it if I can find it?

**This post was edited on Jul 12th 2024 at 8:34:12pm

 

[Farmville420]

Freed had such a unique editing style and I miss it so much. The short songs, random phone clips, frenetic vibe was so entertaining and fun to watch

It was 1/1, it was just like you get bombarded with bangers, one-liners, the craziest b-roll, and then a snapchat of someone slamming fireball there is nothing remotely close that I can think of

I think I have a dvd copy of it somewhere, would you want it if I can find it?

**This post was edited on Jul 12th 2024 at 8:34:12pm

For sure! its my favorite of any of their films

 

[SlushSeason]

Fat tire is fire, one of the best airport beers out there.

I like the new Fat Tire, but man do i miss the original. It was my absolute favorite mid-range beer and i still haven't found a satisfactory replacement

For those out of the loop, Fat Tire Amber Ale was replaced by a totally different beer like a year ago. They kept the Fat Tire name, but it's not an amber anymore

 

[weastcoat]

Camera rotating looks fucking horrible. The topher style of iPhone filming is beyond annoying. Even worse when mfs bring it to long lens too when filming on an tactual camera. Looks so fucking stupid, like bruh I shouldn’t have to tilt my head to see the actual angle of a street rail

 

[Christian_Bale]

Camera rotating looks fucking horrible. The topher style of iPhone filming is beyond annoying. Even worse when mfs bring it to long lens too when filming on an tactual camera. Looks so fucking stupid, like bruh I shouldn’t have to tilt my head to see the actual angle of a street rail

ok sick it's not just me lol. I mind it less when its a tightly filmed clip on a park jump. for street it bugs me how it makes a bit harder to tell exactly what's going on in the clip like for the angle of inrun and rail

 

[KungKalmar]

I hate fish eye rail clips where after a trick the cam is pointed the way that a rail is in the middle of the frame and you can see the skier rolling away somewhere in the corner. Hard to explain, you might understand what I'm trying to say. It really bugs me. Some people(mostly amateurs) have almost all of their rail clips filmed like this which makes it feel repetitive. Fish eye mostly works on very fast paced clips or followcams.

 

[weastcoat]

I hate fish eye rail clips where after a trick the cam is pointed the way that a rail is in the middle of the frame and you can see the skier rolling away somewhere in the corner. Hard to explain, you might understand what I'm trying to say. It really bugs me. Some people(mostly amateurs) have almost all of their rail clips filmed like this which makes it feel repetitive. Fish eye mostly works on very fast paced clips or followcams.

This is how fisheye is supposed to be filmed, otherwise using it is counterintuitive because you’re making the feature look smaller not larger. If you’re having the rider roll away in the center of the frame or even still to the side of center you ain’t filming fisheye right.

 

[weastcoat]

ok sick it's not just me lol. I mind it less when its a tightly filmed clip on a park jump. for street it bugs me how it makes a bit harder to tell exactly what's going on in the clip like for the angle of inrun and rail

Agreed a little bit doesn’t hurt especially on a jump but god DAMN does it annoy the piss out of me. It doesn’t make your footy or content stand out or “unique” just looks dumb as fuck lol.

 

[Rparr]

This is how fisheye is supposed to be filmed, otherwise using it is counterintuitive because you’re making the feature look smaller not larger. If you’re having the rider roll away in the center of the frame or even still to the side of center you ain’t filming fisheye right.

I know it's the proper way but I hate it when it's more than like half an edit for some reason. Too much fisheye for me

 

[KungKalmar]

This is how fisheye is supposed to be filmed, otherwise using it is counterintuitive because you’re making the feature look smaller not larger. If you’re having the rider roll away in the center of the frame or even still to the side of center you ain’t filming fisheye right.

I understand why it's being done. I just don't like it in most clips. Shadows Fade had few fast paced taps with this type of filming and it's really the only way in works for my eyes. Otherwise if your video has these shots repetitively, they get boring quickly. Having few here and there are fine and doesn't ruin the vibe. I don't like how most of the clips are too similar. Normal lense+nice distance+different angles+ nice subjective amount of zoom just looks better to me, this encourages more different looking clips due to more angles available. Also the very not smooth, clunky and almost forced looking cam movement some filmers do while filming like this really bothers my autistic ass.

 

[weastcoat]

I understand why it's being done. I just don't like it in most clips. Shadows Fade had few fast paced taps with this type of filming and it's really the only way in works for my eyes. Otherwise if your video has these shots repetitively, they get boring quickly. Having few here and there are fine and doesn't ruin the vibe. I don't like how most of the clips are too similar. Normal lense+nice distance+different angles+ nice subjective amount of zoom just looks better to me, this encourages more different looking clips due to more angles available. Also the very not smooth, clunky and almost forced looking cam movement some filmers do while filming like this really bothers my autistic ass.

Completely valid, it is good to switch it up and not be super repetitive it can definitely get annoying / boring with the same kind of shot over and over. Definitely hard to though when trying to make an edit in a park with mostly / all small and short rails since they usually call for fisheye angles.

 

[Christian_Bale]

I hate fish eye rail clips where after a trick the cam is pointed the way that a rail is in the middle of the frame and you can see the skier rolling away somewhere in the corner. Hard to explain, you might understand what I'm trying to say. It really bugs me. Some people(mostly amateurs) have almost all of their rail clips filmed like this which makes it feel repetitive. Fish eye mostly works on very fast paced clips or followcams.

Yeah I agree that if the skier's too far the the left/right side then they get distorted too much. But if you try to get the skier in the center of the frame then there's too much dead space (assuming filmer isn't that close to the landing.) Maybe I'm thinking about this in the wrong way but I think it makes sense

 

[BradFiAusNzCoCa]

I like their other offerings besides Dale’s and Fat Tire. Usually when they have events, they have other beers by the brewery and that reminds me I missed the Level 1 movie last Friday. They usually have free New Belgium beers.

Fat tire and Dale's are gross beers and it kinda sucks they're the ones sponsoring so much ski stuff.

 

[Farmville420]

Fat tire and Dale's are gross beers and it kinda sucks they're the ones sponsoring so much ski stuff.

Dales sucks but ngl I like fat tire

 

[WoFlowz]

park skiing has been washed lately

 

[ReturnToMonkey]

park skiing has been washed lately

People have been saying this since the dawn of freeskiing

**This post was edited on Aug 11th 2024 at 11:27:26pm

 

[weastcoat]

park skiing has been washed lately

How so

 

[Rock_Inhabitant]

park skiing has been washed lately

Prolly cause there is no snow in our hemisphere

 

[WoFlowz]

How so

idk i just feel like everything looks the same. ig has desensitized me, i much prefer seeing a nicely crafted video with some life/personality to it on youtube that’s a solid 4-10minutes than all the skiing i’m seeing. And if it’s gonna be skiing on IG i like to see a slide show with like one or two clips but the rest being parts of trips or homies etc. Seeing everyone do the same sw on sw off or cork 7 has rly ruined shit. Don’t get me started on how everyone just does shifties off rails and considers it a trick.

 

[Lenny-]

Short form ski videos/clips are better most the time.

I don't care to see random B roll of your homies or whatever. I don't care to see 100 mid clips to get to the 3 good clips in your 30 min ski "film". I don't care how artsy you think you are. Most the time I see a 10+ minute I don't watch it unless it was made by certain people, over 30 minutes feels like you don't respect my time.

 

[armchair_skier]

idk i just feel like everything looks the same. ig has desensitized me, i much prefer seeing a nicely crafted video with some life/personality to it on youtube that’s a solid 4-10minutes than all the skiing i’m seeing. And if it’s gonna be skiing on IG i like to see a slide show with like one or two clips but the rest being parts of trips or homies etc. Seeing everyone do the same sw on sw off or cork 7 has rly ruined shit. Don’t get me started on how everyone just does shifties off rails and considers it a trick.

I think you already identified the problem here

Put down ya fone

 

[hi_vis360]

Short form ski videos/clips are better most the time.

I don't care to see random B roll of your homies or whatever. I don't care to see 100 mid clips to get to the 3 good clips in your 30 min ski "film". I don't care how artsy you think you are. Most the time I see a 10+ minute I don't watch it unless it was made by certain people, over 30 minutes feels like you don't respect my time.

Agree, I think a big issue is people don’t put themselves in the place of the audience. B roll is only good if it’s funny or interesting to a complete stranger, and if you aren’t a top tier skier you can’t expect people to watch more than a minute or two of your clips. Sometimes I click on a project and I’m loving the vibe but then I see that there’s like 7 minutes left in the edit and it’s like yeah nah

 

[Farmville420]

Agree, I think a big issue is people don’t put themselves in the place of the audience. B roll is only good if it’s funny or interesting to a complete stranger, and if you aren’t a top tier skier you can’t expect people to watch more than a minute or two of your clips. Sometimes I click on a project and I’m loving the vibe but then I see that there’s like 7 minutes left in the edit and it’s like yeah nah

Yup, my friends refuse to understand this concept. I'll never hate a film made by the homies but like not everyone needs a 15 minute long form memoir, especially if you only have ~5 minutes of decent clips

 

[KungKalmar]

Short form ski videos/clips are better most the time.

I don't care to see random B roll of your homies or whatever. I don't care to see 100 mid clips to get to the 3 good clips in your 30 min ski "film". I don't care how artsy you think you are. Most the time I see a 10+ minute I don't watch it unless it was made by certain people, over 30 minutes feels like you don't respect my time.

Lenny is speaking facts again.

 

[Christian_Bale]

Short form ski videos/clips are better most the time.

I don't care to see random B roll of your homies or whatever. I don't care to see 100 mid clips to get to the 3 good clips in your 30 min ski "film". I don't care how artsy you think you are. Most the time I see a 10+ minute I don't watch it unless it was made by certain people, over 30 minutes feels like you don't respect my time.

I'd agree that shorter is better with the exception of instagram. Even good ig edits don't have much staying power. For me the length isn't necessarily an issue by itself, it's more about exactly what you said - people not being selective enough with their clips

 

[Christian_Bale]

at this point I'm getting tired of super 8 in videos. Not against it but I feel like it's more of a routine now for more established crews (both skiing and boarding) and the footage gets used in the similar ways each time.

 

[weastcoat]

at this point I'm getting tired of super 8 in videos. Not against it but I feel like it's more of a routine now for more established crews (both skiing and boarding) and the footage gets used in the similar ways each time.

Only cool when the actual clip or a second angle is filmed with it. Otherwise it’s so played.

 

[weastcoat]

Ankilla is an incredibly talented skier

 

[FruitBootPro]

Ankilla is an incredibly talented skier

he's pretty decent and has better style than a lot of people who don't pay attention to it but he's far from "incredibly talented"

 

[nCrow]

Daniel Hanka and Siver Voll best euro styles of the last decade

 

[KungKalmar]

Daniel Hanka and Siver Voll best euro styles of the last decade

Hell nah

 

[Christian_Bale]

Daniel Hanka and Siver Voll best euro styles of the last decade

better than joona kangas?

 

[fredyferl]

One has basic ass music taste and seems to only listen to Motorhead and wear black, and the other one beams at the camera on every landing

Daniel Hanka and Siver Voll best euro styles of the last decade

 

[Farmville420]

Daniel Hanka and Siver Voll best euro styles of the last decade

Not even the best styles in their respective countries currently, let alone best of the past decade for all of Europe lol

**This post was edited on Sep 15th 2024 at 3:13:19pm

 

[armchair_skier]

Daniel Hanka and Siver Voll best euro styles of the last decade

Hanka kinda got corny aura but siver i agree

 

[TOAST.]

One has basic ass music taste and seems to only listen to Motorhead and wear black, and the other one beams at the camera on every landing

hankas style is at least refreshing. Not too many skiers you can compare him to style wise anymore.

 

[lukeeatsdirt]

loon mountains north peak is not a hockey rink at 45 degrees

 

[Ryanvdonk]

oversized hoodies need to make a comeback. danglers can stay in the past though.