Underflip Tips

I wanna try to do an underflip on a quarterpipe. It doesn’t seem like it would be too difficult considering full commitment to the flip. What i wanna know is if anyone has any tips on doing these that would help me.
 
I overheard someone explaining it to their friend as a flippier cork 5, i cant even do it on the tramp though its a confusing trick. Post clips of your attempts though pls
 
^^^When I first tried doing tail grabs with my cork 5s they would look like under flips. I'd reach back for my tail too soon and would flip more. They looked sweet but not really what I was goin for. if I waited till 180 to grab they'd cork more. I think if you drop shoulder back a little more instead of to the side it would help.
 
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