Twintip that slays bumps

FruitBootPro

FruitBootPro

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Looking for a ski that is fun in early winter + spring conditions. Really good in bumps and has the capability to jib in the park or wherever else. Armada Stranger might fit the bill.
 
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Looking for a ski that is fun in early winter + spring conditions. Really good in bumps and has the capability to jib in the park or wherever else. Armada Stranger might fit the bill.
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14462871:FruitBootPro said:
So much camber…i guess if you get it short it almost looks like a fat mogul ski?

Not sure if such little rocker is my style
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Let me get this straight...you want a ski that kills in the bumps but doesn't have too much camber??? How does that work exactly?
 
14462898:mystery3 said:
Let me get this straight...you want a ski that kills in the bumps but doesn't have too much camber??? How does that work exactly?
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I think OP wants low camber because the ski would slide around better rather than grip? I know I want camber in bumps but that’s just how I ski
 
Somehow the Fat-ypus L-toro is AMAZING in the bumps. I have so much fun on it. Couldn't tell you exactly how it manages it at 101mm underfoot, but it's so light and swerves really well. There's a clip of Adam Delorme ripping them in the moguls in this edit at ~1:33:


I imagine the D'root would be even better at 92mm underfoot. It's the L-toro's little brother.
 
Look at the new Nordica unleashed 108 or 98! I got the chance to try them last season and I got to say they were really impressive. They might fit what you are looking for
 
14462929:ski_salmon69 said:
jeff’s fr kill it in bumps, such a beefy ski so you can just let it hit shit hard if your legs can handle it
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I really like skiiing both my kartel 108s and my devastators in the bumps.
 
If you wanna slam bumps, you gotta get mogul skis or something. Twin tips get in the way so much especially if they’re mounted near center. I wish there was an ski to answer to your question but I don’t think there is/can be :/
 
14462876:goofygoober0104 said:
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Not sure if this is a joke or not cuz I'm a big advocate for those skis. Having skied them in the bumps I love bouncing the tips up off a mogul. Because of the crazy rocker they ski super short and keep from getting tangled up in moguls.

However, they're heavy and long as fuck which isn't really necessary in warmer conditions, and kinda just impedes their "cheat factor" in bumps.
 
14462898:mystery3 said:
Let me get this straight...you want a ski that kills in the bumps but doesn't have too much camber??? How does that work exactly?
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I don't know, I'm not an expert on mogul ski design, I just know that the short running length and large tip splay on my outsiders gives them good maneuverability in bumps.

I assumed this isn't a problem for heavily cambered mogul skis because you are supposed to get them in very short lengths.

Would getting a legit mogul ski make things easier or harder? I can't tell.
 
14462983:dwt802 said:
If you wanna slam bumps, you gotta get mogul skis or something. Twin tips get in the way so much especially if they’re mounted near center. I wish there was an ski to answer to your question but I don’t think there is/can be :/
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I've actually found that I prefer a centered stance in moguls as opposed to a forwards stance, also I don't tend to have problems with my tails crossing or hooking, but I guess everyone has their own quirks and preferences
 
14462900:animator said:
I think OP wants low camber because the ski would slide around better rather than grip? I know I want camber in bumps but that’s just how I ski
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Mike, shut the fuck up
 
I am currently on the ARV 106. I am 178 and have them in 180. I am in the trees more than anything else (east coast), so bumps are the usual, and the ARVs rip through bumps, I can straight line bumps no sweat. As for jibbing around they definitely require some more energy as they are quite stiff and fairly heavy. However for big air and big features they are amazing. I don't spend much time in the park but boosting bumps and hitting drops feel so good as the ski will stay straight after and continue charging. They turn fairly quick to so weaving in and out of corridors

I too was going to go with the strangers, but when I went to a shop (TMC Freeriderz in whistler) Yoski basically said that the strangers will be really quick to shoot me out of any bumps I encounter. He was probably right as they are pretty soft ski. Ended up recommending the ARV 106s and the rest is above.

Hope this helps, lmk if you have any questions.
 
14463187:snowfinder said:
These
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those are dedicated mogul skis, not twintips.

i’m looking for a ski that excels in basically all conditions other than deep/fresh snow. Park, bumps, groomers. The stuff you would find in the spring.
 
14463117:caveman31 said:
Any skis. Good technique is where it’s at
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this applies to literally any skill in skiing, but changing your equipment can make it a bit easier/more comfortable. I mean, for like 80% of skiing’s history people skied powder on
 
You need flex. I find a supportive yet softer flex I can flex through (while not folding) is more important than anything else for me. If you have a stiff board, it can get caught up on the tips or tails unless it’s a true mogul ski. The issue is that you need to clear the tips while having some give behind your heel that you can control. I’m talking big moguls here btw. Tinier moguls it doesn’t really make a difference.

I like my Fauna Omnis a lot for bumps because I can kind of control how much give vs support the ski has. I don’t know much about it, I just like the specs, but has anyone tried the Vishnu key on moguls?

But seriously, watch how mogul skiers ski. They like load up on the heel.

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IMO skinnier and stiffer the better, my old scratch mogul skis were like 82 underfoot and had very stiff tails. But as many have said, if you're good at skiing bumps you can use any ski.
 
14463200:FruitBootPro said:
this applies to literally any skill in skiing, but changing your equipment can make it a bit easier/more comfortable. I mean, for like 80% of skiing’s history people skied powder on
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ok not sure why this got messed up but I said that people managed to ski powder on skis ~90mm and thinner for decades, but we'd never recommend that for a powder ski nowadays.

**This post was edited on Sep 20th 2022 at 9:05:15pm
 
14462911:dkels said:
Somehow the Fat-ypus L-toro is AMAZING in the bumps. I have so much fun on it. Couldn't tell you exactly how it manages it at 101mm underfoot, but it's so light and swerves really well. There's a clip of Adam Delorme ripping them in the moguls in this edit at ~1:33:


I imagine the D'root would be even better at 92mm underfoot. It's the L-toro's little brother.
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what's the flex like on those skis?
 
Not as soft as you'd think from the Delorme videos. I would say overall medium flex throughout the ski. They don't chatter too much at speed but do feel very playful - very odd for how light they are
 
14462912:mc_mel23 said:
Look at the new Nordica unleashed 108 or 98! I got the chance to try them last season and I got to say they were really impressive. They might fit what you are looking for
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`most fun ski ive ridden so far. i got sent a couple pairs last season but sadly the durability is very bad at least for the first few pairs I skied. my first pair lasted 25 ski days before delaming tip to tail. second pair has edge cracks after 5 days of skiing with a pretty generous detune
 
14463568:FruitBootPro said:
not twintips
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they actually do make a twin tip, pretty sure the JPOW 98 is a twin tip ID One ski that might actually be your answer.

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There also might be more, I don’t know enough but worth looking into

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14463894:dwt802 said:
they actually do make a twin tip, pretty sure the JPOW 98 is a twin tip ID One ski that might actually be your answer.

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There also might be more, I don’t know enough but worth looking into

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oh shittttt that looks tight!!!

edit: nvm, they’re fucking $1300 and this is such a wack take

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**This post was edited on Sep 25th 2022 at 11:18:03am
 
I'll take the bait on this one and say Atomic Bent 90. Bit wider underfoot than ideal but the tails are only 109 and pretty stiff. The rocker makes them ski a bit shorter and they are stupidly light feeling on the feet. They do just fine in the park, have enough rocker to be fun in slush and they are fairly jib able, if on the stiffer side of 'playful'.
 
14464525:FruitBootPro said:
oh shittttt that looks tight!!!

edit: nvm, they’re fucking $1300 and this is such a wack take

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**This post was edited on Sep 25th 2022 at 11:18:03am
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Yeah they are ID One's so they'll be expensive, but if you founded a used pair I bet they'd be tit. That is a whack take tho. I bought a beat pair of ID One mogul skis for 40$ and they absolutely ripped.

Best of luck figuring/finding a pair of skis
 
14464750:dwt802 said:
Yeah they are ID One's so they'll be expensive, but if you founded a used pair I bet they'd be tit. That is a whack take tho. I bought a beat pair of ID One mogul skis for 40$ and they absolutely ripped.

Best of luck figuring/finding a pair of skis
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thanks

just planned out my trips for this winter and I think I have until spring to find a dedicated ski for warmer/less snowy conditions.
 
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