Touring w full rocker / reverse camber skis

mikk

mikk

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Hi,

So could please someone help me out.

How big is the difference between touring with skis that have camber and skis with full rocker.

For example:

Wndr Reason 120 reverse camber vs camber. I'm asking, because I'm worried about the contact when touring up and what should the ski length be.

Or 4frnt Hoji vs Armada Locator 112.

Any information and personal experience would be appreciated!
 
Don't worry about it. It's really not a big deal. Get good skins, cut them right, and you'll be fine. I've toured on plenty of full rocker skis, including Moment Ghost Trains that have like 6" of base in contact with the snow, and have found that technique and route matter way more that the rocker profile of your skis.

Walk up on what you want to ski down on. The WNDR folks tour a bunch. A mellow reverse camber like theirs will handle firm skin tracks no problem.

Same goes for Hoji. His signature ski walks uphill just fine.

Sure, for a dedicated firm snow spring ski, something that's under 100 mm underfoot, it might make more of a difference, but for wider skis made for fun snow, don't worry about it at all.
 
14477503:cydwhit said:
Don't worry about it. It's really not a big deal. Get good skins, cut them right, and you'll be fine. I've toured on plenty of full rocker skis, including Moment Ghost Trains that have like 6" of base in contact with the snow, and have found that technique and route matter way more that the rocker profile of your skis.

Walk up on what you want to ski down on. The WNDR folks tour a bunch. A mellow reverse camber like theirs will handle firm skin tracks no problem.

Same goes for Hoji. His signature ski walks uphill just fine.

Sure, for a dedicated firm snow spring ski, something that's under 100 mm underfoot, it might make more of a difference, but for wider skis made for fun snow, don't worry about it at all.
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Thanks a lot!
 
Yeah it's totally fine.. It wont be ideal if its springtime and youre going up a half frozen snowpack, but for peak season and soft snow its totally fine.
 
14477605:PacificRimJob said:
Yeah it's totally fine.. It wont be ideal if its springtime and youre going up a half frozen snowpack, but for peak season and soft snow its totally fine.
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and even if conditions get like this, you can just get some ski crampons and then all is well
 
14477926:stinky_cheese said:
and even if conditions get like this, you can just get some ski crampons and then all is well
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ehhh.. not quite. They can help, certainly but there are circumstances where they dont make up for a cambered ski pushing the skin in to gain good purchase on a slope, or having a whole length of edge to dig into stuff - especially when you have wind blown areas in your path were one spot is soft as powder and one part is an iceberg and you have to be a bit tactical with your footwork.
 
I tour on Hojis-- they're my favorite by far. It's really not a big adjustment, once you figure out balance points on the ski and your glide (or stride) you're good to go. As Cy said, you'll be just fine. I ski the 179, it skis shorter since it is a full rocker but I'm glad I went that length when I'm making my way up rather than a longer ski.
 
I imagine a fully rockered ski could be challenging on traversing on hard pack or collapsing ski tracks where you want to scribe as you walk. But an all mountain / mustache rocker is fine in most cases
 
14478841:safarisam said:
I tour on Hojis-- they're my favorite by far. It's really not a big adjustment, once you figure out balance points on the ski and your glide (or stride) you're good to go. As Cy said, you'll be just fine. I ski the 179, it skis shorter since it is a full rocker but I'm glad I went that length when I'm making my way up rather than a longer ski.
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And you don't feel Hojs being too heavy while going uphill?
 
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