Tom wallisch Full Titl Pro model

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Anybody see his gram? I was honestly very surprised, I thought his model was done for at least for this year
 
In my opinion this was a flop on Full Tilts behalf. The amount of kids that had to be educated that the B&E and Tom Wallisch models were just a colour way and nothing different than the Descendent and First Chair boots. And now if you know that and you still choose to pay more money for the Wallisch or B&E boot then you are an idiot.
 
If I'm being honest, the only FT's I would consider buying are those orange classics. FT is a great brand and has done a lot for the sport of skiing, just not really digging the lineup this year.
 
I can't wear their boots! I would love to as I iode Lange XT130's and they super suck when I'm with my 3.5yr old!
 
They are eh, there have been better ones imo. I think its absurd that they are charging $200 more for the Wallys (classics are $400 vs $600 for Wallys and they are the same boot) and B&E at about the same thing. Its also ridiculous that they are almost sold out 2 days after the release on the website.
 
13535547:Swandog7 said:
They are eh, there have been better ones imo. I think its absurd that they are charging $200 more for the Wallys (classics are $400 vs $600 for Wallys and they are the same boot) and B&E at about the same thing. Its also ridiculous that they are almost sold out 2 days after the release on the website.
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Not even close to the same boots man. The classic uses the old original shell and has the liner wit much less intuition foam, hence why it is cheaper. The wallisch in comparison uses the soul shell and the top tier liner. It also this seaso comes with a big booster style power strap. And it's actually cheaper then in previous seasons.

The b&e is is comparable to the descent 8 in terms of features but to be honest I want the b&e more them the descendant 8 because again the power strap is so muc better and I can easily change out the tounge probably to a ten.

but seriously man cheack out my articles in the news section I cover all this stuff in my recent articles.
 
13535597:tomPietrowski said:
Not even close to the same boots man. The classic uses the old original shell and has the liner wit much less intuition foam, hence why it is cheaper. The wallisch in comparison uses the soul shell and the top tier liner. It also this seaso comes with a big booster style power strap. And it's actually cheaper then in previous seasons.

The b&e is is comparable to the descent 8 in terms of features but to be honest I want the b&e more them the descendant 8 because again the power strap is so muc better and I can easily change out the tounge probably to a ten.

but seriously man cheack out my articles in the news section I cover all this stuff in my recent articles.
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Both lasts are the same, everything is the same other than the strap is it not? I noticed the booster style power strap, doest seem worth the price difference. The Liner just re heats better I think. I just think the pricing doesn't outweigh the added things they put on the boot. IM a sucker for cheap shit and don't spend a whole lot on stuff so maybe I'm overlooking something. I couldn't bare spending that much on a boot.
 
13535606:Swandog7 said:
Both lasts are the same, everything is the same other than the strap is it not? I noticed the booster style power strap, doest seem worth the price difference. The Liner just re heats better I think. I just think the pricing doesn't outweigh the added things they put on the boot. IM a sucker for cheap shit and don't spend a whole lot on stuff so maybe I'm overlooking something. I couldn't bare spending that much on a boot.
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The shell and liner are the big differences.

The he classic uses the old original as I said.

The wallisch uses the new soul shell. The soul as well as having an updated toe box to help prevent toe bang, has replaceable heel and toes. The original only has a small heel section so when the toe weara the boots are done. Basically the soul is the more modern version and stands up to the cimpetion. The original is kind of dated now and even full tilt only use it on one boot this season.

The he liner is the other big difference. Te classic uses the new tounge liner similar to what you find in most boots. It's a more basic liner in that the only part which moulds is around the heel.

Heat mold goam is expensive so using less means you make a cheaper product but at the expense of customization and comfort.

The he pro liner usrd in the wallisch is a full wrap and is fully made from intuition foam. Using that muc heat mold foam is muc more expensive but offers so much more in terms of fit, comfort and warmth.

basically all I'm saying is comparing a top line boot against a price point boot is not really fair. If anything compare it to the first chair 8 as that is close to the same level.
 
13535616:tomPietrowski said:
The shell and liner are the big differences.

The he classic uses the old original as I said.

The wallisch uses the new soul shell. The soul as well as having an updated toe box to help prevent toe bang, has replaceable heel and toes. The original only has a small heel section so when the toe weara the boots are done. Basically the soul is the more modern version and stands up to the cimpetion. The original is kind of dated now and even full tilt only use it on one boot this season.

The he liner is the other big difference. Te classic uses the new tounge liner similar to what you find in most boots. It's a more basic liner in that the only part which moulds is around the heel.

Heat mold goam is expensive so using less means you make a cheaper product but at the expense of customization and comfort.

The he pro liner usrd in the wallisch is a full wrap and is fully made from intuition foam. Using that muc heat mold foam is muc more expensive but offers so much more in terms of fit, comfort and warmth.

basically all I'm saying is comparing a top line boot against a price point boot is not really fair. If anything compare it to the first chair 8 as that is close to the same level.
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Gotcha, guess I'm more of a easy shopper or something. Got fitted for some classics a few weeks ago and they were the most comfy boot I've put on in 3 years. Wonder what the TWall boot feels like in comparison. Well thanks for dropping more knowledge on me, atleast I tried.
 
13535627:Swandog7 said:
Gotcha, guess I'm more of a easy shopper or something. Got fitted for some classics a few weeks ago and they were the most comfy boot I've put on in 3 years. Wonder what the TWall boot feels like in comparison. Well thanks for dropping more knowledge on me, atleast I tried.
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Oh no the classic is still an awesome boot haha it's just not at the same level as the wallisch. But if it fits well and is working it will be great for you.
 
I want the B&E call me a fan boy or whatever you want but id honestly put those up as if they were art!
 
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