Tipping the Barber...
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californiagrown
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I dont tip unless you are providing a service it is customary to rate- ie never put $$ in a tip jar unless dudes go way above and beyond. but i generally tip well, unless service is shit. I tip accordingly.
Tipping has no fucking meaning anymore. I wish we as a culture could go away from it. Obligatory tipping is fucking retarded,
Everyone just does it all the time to feel better bout themselves. I wish we could move completely away from it, and go back to tipping people for doing an EXCEPTIONAL job. I tip at restaurants because they don't pay their employees shit otherwise but it's really dumb.
They should have to pay wait staff minimum wage and then get rid of this bullshit need for tipping. Also the millions of jobs where people don't get tips, and all the complaints from girls who think that opening a beer is the most difficult job in the world doesn't really help.
Tipping, standing ovations, and whatever else can all go get fucked.
I wanted to rant more but dinner is ready
Everyone just does it all the time to feel better bout themselves. I wish we could move completely away from it, and go back to tipping people for doing an EXCEPTIONAL job. I tip at restaurants because they don't pay their employees shit otherwise but it's really dumb.
They should have to pay wait staff minimum wage and then get rid of this bullshit need for tipping. Also the millions of jobs where people don't get tips, and all the complaints from girls who think that opening a beer is the most difficult job in the world doesn't really help.
Tipping, standing ovations, and whatever else can all go get fucked.
I wanted to rant more but dinner is ready
californiagrown
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13390101:Uglyboy said:
i doubt you get dirty looks when the service is shit. you likely think a 10% tip is the baseline tip. THAT'S why you get dirty looks.
californiagrown
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13390121:Uglyboy said:
And what service industry jobs have you done in your life where tipping was customary? Cause i bet if you had worked in one, youd have a very different POV on ho a bad tip vs a bad tip vs a normal tip is earned.
you don't go below 15% unless the service was noticably bad.
It's just stupid. I should be tipping the chef(directly) than the person bringing me my food.
Oh sweet, you fucked up my order, never asked me how the food was or refilled my drink, tell me more about how you deserve a 20%+ tip.
Places should pay their employees a fitting wage. If patrons want to tip why the hell not, if not, just as good.
It's fucking ridiculous that we live in a place where people will get butthurt because somebody wanted to simply pay the listed price for a service and not supplement their income.
It would be sick if restaurants listed the price, and that's what it was.
I don't see how me not tipping makes me a bad person, yet the employer paying them $2.50 an hour or whatever is completely fine. Seems pretty backwards to me.
I'm going to start tipping the garbage man. Always seemed pretty rad. They pick up the shit in front of my house, have to deal with the smell of garbage yet always smiling. I think that guy deserves my tip more than some chick who learned how to open a bottle of beer.
Oh sweet, you fucked up my order, never asked me how the food was or refilled my drink, tell me more about how you deserve a 20%+ tip.
Places should pay their employees a fitting wage. If patrons want to tip why the hell not, if not, just as good.
It's fucking ridiculous that we live in a place where people will get butthurt because somebody wanted to simply pay the listed price for a service and not supplement their income.
It would be sick if restaurants listed the price, and that's what it was.
I don't see how me not tipping makes me a bad person, yet the employer paying them $2.50 an hour or whatever is completely fine. Seems pretty backwards to me.
I'm going to start tipping the garbage man. Always seemed pretty rad. They pick up the shit in front of my house, have to deal with the smell of garbage yet always smiling. I think that guy deserves my tip more than some chick who learned how to open a bottle of beer.
I've had bad haircuts, and good haircuts. My current guy does an excellent job every time. He's courteous and will chat if you like, or not chat if you don't. At my age, making my head look good is a challenge. I tip him well because he provides me with great service. That is that. When I got bad haircuts, I didn't tip.
-benedetto
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"I tip the barber 100 just to keep my line up"
-Gucci Mane, a few years back
-Gucci Mane, a few years back
last_tango
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13390082:theabortionator said:
In montana servers get state minimum wage plus tips.
louie.mirags
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13389928:SteezyJapaneezy said:
dude what kind of haircut are you getting and from where? That sounds pricey af. I thought my haircut at $17 bucks was a lot! I just give the guy a 20 each time and call it a day.
13390082:theabortionator said:
I feels ya when it comes to restaurants and such. But, in the case of barbers, the one I go to now goes above and beyond and charges the same as anywhere else. Straight razor, hot towel and always a perfect a hair cut. The tip is because I appreciate the work he is doing.
I ALWAYS tip the barber. Been going to this guy for probably 5-6 or so years now .Been in business for 54 years. Cuts hair flawless. Takes his time and makes sure he does it right. An old italian guy who runs a one chair shop. Hes a haircut legend.
$40 haircut always give him the extra $10.
$40 haircut always give him the extra $10.
cool_name
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13390145:theabortionator said:
Ya because that is a bartenders only job, please go work behind a bar for night and then try and say the only thing you ad to do was open a bottle of beer. I'm not saying a agree completely with our current tipping standards, but don't try and tell me working behind a bar is as easy as just opening a bottle of beer
ianrich511
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13390484:.Hugo. said:
Me too. I tip the barber with a beer, before during and after.
SKI.ING
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13390133:californiagrown said:
I'm with Borty, and disagree with you. I've worked shitty jobs before, and nobody tipped me. So why do I have to tip waitstaff who earn the same wage as me? So I do some backbreaking work, and when I go out I have to give extra of my money to somebody earning the same wage, and in a less manual labor intensive job?
Mind you I do tip, but extremely performance based. In CA, waitstaff receive minimum wage and up. Some probably make more than the people tipping them. Tipping should not be automatic, that is what a paycheck is for. I hate when people say, "Oh if you had to do that job, etc etc..." There are so many shit jobs where people don't get tipped. And don't even get me started on the bar scene.
OregonDead
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I usually tip and if I just have exact change I bring him and extra dollar or 2 next time. If I'm short $ he tells me just to get him next time but I always come back and pay the same day. My regular barber was in my class in high school. He works hard and even though he's owned his business for 10 years he still has loan payments for his business and his schooling. I feel better about tipping the barber then I do a hospitality worker.
DayMan
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13390082:theabortionator said:
I agree 100%. In Europe it's pretty much set up how you're describing. Waiters get paid enough to live on, and tips are only expected with exceptional service. When you pay with a credit card and get your receipt to sign, 99% of the time in my experience there isn't even a line for you to write a tip.
If you were to create a system of paying people for goods and services from the ground up, you would never arrive at tipping as it exists in the US today. Furthermore, countries that embrace tipping all have higher rates of corruption than those that don't.
If you aren't going to tip, be nice about it and tell the server/service before you sit down.
If you aren't going to tip, be nice about it and tell the server/service before you sit down.
profa_212
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13390885:RudyGarmisch said:
How on earth is telling them they are getting nothing for serving you being nice? That's how you get spit in your food and an angry restaurant.
if you don't have the money for a tip why in the hell are you eating out. If you don't have money don't go out.
californiagrown
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13390681:SKI.ING said:
What jobs did you do where the customer relied on you for an aesthetic experience as well as a quality product. You tip for the experience the give you.
13390540:cool_name said:
Omg, you're suggesting that I was oversimplifying their occupation? I'm so hurt by these accusations. It couldn't have been a deliberate reaction to all the entitled girls that think they have the most difficult job in the world tending bar. And they will bitch even if you're drinking bottles of beer and all they have to do is open them if you don't tip.
A lot of people on NS smoke weed. Do you tip the guy you get your nugget from? Why not. He's doing more to provide a service imo.
I know how hard bartending can be, but I also see so much shit from girls who think that their job is epically difficult, and they deserve a million dollar tip from everyone who comes to the bar.
californiagrown
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13390995:Uglyboy said:
A tip is warranted when the business places a value on the experience above and beyond the base product they are selling...but only charges the price of the base product. Or when there is "art invlolved".
you understand, right?
californiagrown
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13391055:Uglyboy said:
Haha.
I will say that the whole reason you tip at a bar(not a nice establishment with craft cockctails, or jacket attire) is so that you get stronger drinks and quicker service. Essentially it is a bribe, which is contrary to what an actual tip is. so leaving a $3 bribe on a 3$ bottle of beer ensures that you get served almost immidiatley next time you go up to that crowded bar.
SKI.ING
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13390885:RudyGarmisch said:
That doesn't make any sense. I don't know what I'm going to tip them until their service is complete. If they deserve it, then they will get a generous tip. If they don't, they don't.
13390962:californiagrown said:
I think you can extrapolate your definition onto many jobs though. I did marble restoration, and while it isn't as service based there is still a large variation in the quality of work and professionalism that people receive. For instance, we did some of the best work and went through a lot of extra cost and effort to maintain a clean and professional workspace because these are people's homes and they're still living in them. You'd be surprised how sloppy some guys can be in other peoples houses, and trash them. And I never received a tip nor thought about it.
So then I'm supposed to take my little paycheck, and give some of it to somebody at the same wage? It doesn't compute to me. I love tipping people who do a kickass job. I hate getting dirty looks when somebody does the bare minimum and I'm expected to tip them. They didn't provide a service, they brought me my food. And filled my water once.
From what I understand in some places jobs that are tip based, the wage is lower, and so that makes sense to me. But in a state like CA it doesn't because the wage is not adjusted based on tips. I have a few friends that are bartenders and waitstaff and some could leave their jobs, but they don't because they make quite a decent living off of it.
I tip like 3 or 4 bucks when I go. I always get it done by my college roomie's ex boyfriend's ex girlfriend. (yeah. Seriously. that's the relation haha)
13391063:californiagrown said:
A lot of places pour the same regardless of tips. As far as your tip you described, why not simply buy 2 $3 beers the first time so you now have 2 for the price you were going to wait for 1 and you don't have to wait at all for your second because you already have it.
Double fist or bust
iH8pow
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Hell yeah I tip the barber, and that's one of the few times I tip happily. I agree it's fucked in the U.S. It just became a way corporate restaurants could cut wages and pass the bill onto the customer. So you should tip, but keep in mind if you hate tipping then don't go out. Whenever I pay with a credit card and there's a line for a tip, I usually tip but keep a mental note to maybe not go there again. I read somewhere that if you make like $30/month in tips then you qualify for waitstaff wages. So if you tip somewhere that's generally not customary or expected (lets say Taco Bell), then I see that as a slippery slope for them to one day make $2 an hour or whatnot and pass the bill on to us.
If you get what I'm saying, if not fuck it
If you get what I'm saying, if not fuck it
iH8pow
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The barber/hair stylist generally gives you their undivided attention. If they suck, you look like an asshole. If you suck and ask for something stupid or don't know what look you're going for, they help you make the right decision. They went to school to get to where they are. They are the one profession on earth I couldn't think deserves tips any more
13391226:CoreyTrevor said:
What about surgeons? "Hey there, thanks for not fixing me up, not killing me, and not harvesting any organs while I was passed the fuck out on your little metal bench. Here's a 5er for your troubles. Thanks again!"
There are 36 jobs in the US that typically get tips in the US - can anyone name them all?
What about discrimination in tipping? There are number out studies that show that more physically attractive people get more tips, regardless of the service. how many employers have you that that judge how good you are at your job by the amount of tips each employee nets? I still tup, cause it's better than getting shit in your food or having this debate every time I go out, but the systems days are numbered - just waiting for that court case.
What about discrimination in tipping? There are number out studies that show that more physically attractive people get more tips, regardless of the service. how many employers have you that that judge how good you are at your job by the amount of tips each employee nets? I still tup, cause it's better than getting shit in your food or having this debate every time I go out, but the systems days are numbered - just waiting for that court case.