westSide.Steeze
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does not exist, clocks exist.
Time......
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currentwestman
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really original thinking
SteezyOhio
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clocks don't exist without time, being as time is a measurement of the length of "time" it takes the earth to rotate 360 degrees on its pivotal axis.
frosted_flakes
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owned
Dub_Digital
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hahahahahaah ur a faggggg! hahahaha
you WOULD make this thread
you WOULD make this thread
westSide.Steeze
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lol this was only to see how fast you would reply
Slinger1x1
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time is just a name for the rotation of our earth. clocks and hours and seconds and days and what not, are just measures of time.
you crazy thinking is just stupid...
you crazy thinking is just stupid...
Dub_Digital
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umm....actually thats wrong clocks can easily exist without "time"....and time is not based upon earths orbit, because in the nineteenth and 20th centuries it was obvious that that is inconsistent. ......humans make up time, time does not dictate ANYTHING in the universe energy is always there, simply transfered
Valind
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A clock is an instrument used to indicate, measure, keep, and co-ordinate time. The word clock is derived ultimately (via Dutch, Northern French, and Medieval Latin) from the Celtic words clagan and clocca meaning "bell". For horologists and other specialists the term clock continues to mean exclusively a device with a striking mechanism for announcing intervals of time acoustically, by ringing a bell, a set of chimes, or agong.[dubious – discuss] A silent instrument lacking such a mechanism has traditionally been known as a timepiece.[1] In general usage today a "clock" refers to any device for measuring and displaying the time. Watches and other timepieces that can be carried on one's person are often distinguished from clocks.[2]
Clock at the Royal Observatory, GreenwichContents [hide]1 History1.1 Sundials and other devices1.2 Water clocks1.3 Early mechanical clocks1.3.1 A new mechanism1.3.2 Early astronomical clocks[/list]1.4 Later developments[/list]2 How clocks work2.1 Power source2.2 Oscillator2.2.1 Synchronized or slave clocks[/list]2.3 Controller2.4 Counter chain2.5 Indicator[/list]3 Types3.1 Time display methods3.1.1 Analog clocks3.1.2 Digital clocks3.1.3 Auditory clocks[/list][/list]4 Purposes4.1 Ideal clocks4.2 Navigation[/list]5 Seismology6 Specific types of clocks7 See also7.1 Newsgroup[/list]8 Notes9 References10 External links[/list][edit]History
Replica of an ancient Chineseincense clockThe clock is one of the oldest human inventions, meeting the need to consistently measure intervals of time shorter than the natural units, the day, thelunar month, and the year. Such measurements require devices. Devices operating on several different physical processes have been used over the millennia, culminating in the clocks of today.[edit]Sundials and other devicesThe sundial, which measures the time of day by the direction of shadows cast by the sun, was widely used in ancient times. A well-designed sundial can measure local solar time with reasonable accuracy, and sundials continued to be used to monitor the performance of clocks until the modern era. However, its practical limitations - it requires the sun to shine and does not work at all during the night - encouraged the use of other techniques for measuring time. In India, the King of Jaipur the Pink City, Jai Singh II constructed many instruments and sundials in the observatories in cities Jaipur, Varanasi, Ujjain, Mathura between 1724-1730 A.D. He had a good interest in astronomy and town planning.Candle clocks, and sticks of incense that burn down at approximately predictable speeds have also been used to estimate the passing of time. In anhourglass, fine sand pours through a tiny hole at a constant rate and indicates a predetermined passage of an arbitrary period of time.[edit]Water clocksMain article: Water clock
A scale model of Su Song'sAstronomical Clock Tower, built in 11th century Kaifeng, China. It was driven by a large waterwheel, chain drive, and escapement mechanism.Water clocks, also known as clepsydrae (sg: clepsydra), along with the sundials, are possibly the oldest time-measuring instruments, with the only exceptions being the vertical gnomon and the day-counting tally stick.[3] Given their great antiquity, where and when they first existed are not known and perhaps unknowable. The bowl-shaped outflow is the simplest form of a water clock and is known to have existed in Babylon and in Egypt around the 16th century BC. Other regions of the world, including India and China, also have early evidence of water clocks, but the earliest dates are less certain. Some authors, however, write about water clocks appearing as early as 4000 BC in these regions of the world.[4]Greek astronomer, Andronicus of Cyrrhus, supervised the construction of the Tower of the Winds in Athens in the 1st century B.C.[5]The Greek and Roman civilizations are credited for initially advancing water clock design to include complex gearing,[6] which was connected to fancifulautomata and also resulted in improved accuracy. These advances were passed on through Byzantium and Islamic times, eventually making their way toEurope. Independently, the Chinese developed their own advanced water clocks, passing their ideas on to Korea and Japan.Some water clock designs were developed independently and some knowledge was transferred through the spread of trade. It is important to point out that the need for the common person to 'know what time it is' largely did not exist until the Industrial Revolution, when it became important to keep track of hours worked. In the earliest of times, however, the purpose for using a water clock was for astronomical and astrological reasons. These early water clocks were calibrated with a sundial. While never reaching the level of accuracy based on today's standards of timekeeping, the water clock was the most accurate and commonly used timekeeping device for millennia, until it was replaced by the more accurate pendulum clock in 17th century Europe.In 797 (or possibly 801), the Abbasid caliph of Baghdad, Harun al-Rashid, presented Charlemagne with an Asian Elephant named Abul-Abbas together with a "particularly elaborate example" of a water [7] clock.
An elephant clock in a manuscript byAl-Jazari (1206 AD) from The Book of Knowledge of Ingenious Mechanical Devices. [8]In the 13th century, Al-Jazari, an engineer who worked for Artuqid king of Diyar-Bakr, Nasir al-Din, made numerous clocks of all shapes and sizes. The book described 50 mechanical devices in 6 categories, including water clocks. The most reputed clocks included the Elephant, the Castle and Scribe clocks, all of which have been successfully reconstructed. As well as telling the time, these grand clocks were symbols of status, grandeur and wealth of the Urtuq State.[9][edit]Early mechanical clocksNone of the first clocks survived from 13th century Europe, but various mentions in church records reveal some of the early history of the clock.[10]Medieval religious institutions required clocks to measure and indicate the passing of time because, for many centuries, daily prayer and work schedules had to be strictly regulated. This was done by various types of time-telling and recording devices, such as water clocks, sundials and marked candles, probably used in combination. Important times and durations w
Clock at the Royal Observatory, GreenwichContents [hide]1 History1.1 Sundials and other devices1.2 Water clocks1.3 Early mechanical clocks1.3.1 A new mechanism1.3.2 Early astronomical clocks[/list]1.4 Later developments[/list]2 How clocks work2.1 Power source2.2 Oscillator2.2.1 Synchronized or slave clocks[/list]2.3 Controller2.4 Counter chain2.5 Indicator[/list]3 Types3.1 Time display methods3.1.1 Analog clocks3.1.2 Digital clocks3.1.3 Auditory clocks[/list][/list]4 Purposes4.1 Ideal clocks4.2 Navigation[/list]5 Seismology6 Specific types of clocks7 See also7.1 Newsgroup[/list]8 Notes9 References10 External links[/list][edit]History
Replica of an ancient Chineseincense clockThe clock is one of the oldest human inventions, meeting the need to consistently measure intervals of time shorter than the natural units, the day, thelunar month, and the year. Such measurements require devices. Devices operating on several different physical processes have been used over the millennia, culminating in the clocks of today.[edit]Sundials and other devicesThe sundial, which measures the time of day by the direction of shadows cast by the sun, was widely used in ancient times. A well-designed sundial can measure local solar time with reasonable accuracy, and sundials continued to be used to monitor the performance of clocks until the modern era. However, its practical limitations - it requires the sun to shine and does not work at all during the night - encouraged the use of other techniques for measuring time. In India, the King of Jaipur the Pink City, Jai Singh II constructed many instruments and sundials in the observatories in cities Jaipur, Varanasi, Ujjain, Mathura between 1724-1730 A.D. He had a good interest in astronomy and town planning.Candle clocks, and sticks of incense that burn down at approximately predictable speeds have also been used to estimate the passing of time. In anhourglass, fine sand pours through a tiny hole at a constant rate and indicates a predetermined passage of an arbitrary period of time.[edit]Water clocksMain article: Water clock
A scale model of Su Song'sAstronomical Clock Tower, built in 11th century Kaifeng, China. It was driven by a large waterwheel, chain drive, and escapement mechanism.Water clocks, also known as clepsydrae (sg: clepsydra), along with the sundials, are possibly the oldest time-measuring instruments, with the only exceptions being the vertical gnomon and the day-counting tally stick.[3] Given their great antiquity, where and when they first existed are not known and perhaps unknowable. The bowl-shaped outflow is the simplest form of a water clock and is known to have existed in Babylon and in Egypt around the 16th century BC. Other regions of the world, including India and China, also have early evidence of water clocks, but the earliest dates are less certain. Some authors, however, write about water clocks appearing as early as 4000 BC in these regions of the world.[4]Greek astronomer, Andronicus of Cyrrhus, supervised the construction of the Tower of the Winds in Athens in the 1st century B.C.[5]The Greek and Roman civilizations are credited for initially advancing water clock design to include complex gearing,[6] which was connected to fancifulautomata and also resulted in improved accuracy. These advances were passed on through Byzantium and Islamic times, eventually making their way toEurope. Independently, the Chinese developed their own advanced water clocks, passing their ideas on to Korea and Japan.Some water clock designs were developed independently and some knowledge was transferred through the spread of trade. It is important to point out that the need for the common person to 'know what time it is' largely did not exist until the Industrial Revolution, when it became important to keep track of hours worked. In the earliest of times, however, the purpose for using a water clock was for astronomical and astrological reasons. These early water clocks were calibrated with a sundial. While never reaching the level of accuracy based on today's standards of timekeeping, the water clock was the most accurate and commonly used timekeeping device for millennia, until it was replaced by the more accurate pendulum clock in 17th century Europe.In 797 (or possibly 801), the Abbasid caliph of Baghdad, Harun al-Rashid, presented Charlemagne with an Asian Elephant named Abul-Abbas together with a "particularly elaborate example" of a water [7] clock.
An elephant clock in a manuscript byAl-Jazari (1206 AD) from The Book of Knowledge of Ingenious Mechanical Devices. [8]In the 13th century, Al-Jazari, an engineer who worked for Artuqid king of Diyar-Bakr, Nasir al-Din, made numerous clocks of all shapes and sizes. The book described 50 mechanical devices in 6 categories, including water clocks. The most reputed clocks included the Elephant, the Castle and Scribe clocks, all of which have been successfully reconstructed. As well as telling the time, these grand clocks were symbols of status, grandeur and wealth of the Urtuq State.[9][edit]Early mechanical clocksNone of the first clocks survived from 13th century Europe, but various mentions in church records reveal some of the early history of the clock.[10]Medieval religious institutions required clocks to measure and indicate the passing of time because, for many centuries, daily prayer and work schedules had to be strictly regulated. This was done by various types of time-telling and recording devices, such as water clocks, sundials and marked candles, probably used in combination. Important times and durations w
Valind
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A clock is an instrument used to indicate, measure, keep, and co-ordinate time. The word clock is derived ultimately (via Dutch, Northern French, and Medieval Latin) from the Celtic words clagan and clocca meaning "bell". For horologists and other specialists the term clock continues to mean exclusively a device with a striking mechanism for announcing intervals of time acoustically, by ringing a bell, a set of chimes, or agong.[dubious – discuss] A silent instrument lacking such a mechanism has traditionally been known as a timepiece.[1] In general usage today a "clock" refers to any device for measuring and displaying the time. Watches and other timepieces that can be carried on one's person are often distinguished from clocks.[2]Clock at the Royal Observatory, GreenwichContents [hide]1 History1.1 Sundials and other devices1.2 Water clocks1.3 Early mechanical clocks1.3.1 A new mechanism1.3.2 Early astronomical clocks[/list]1.4 Later developments[/list]2 How clocks work2.1 Power source2.2 Oscillator2.2.1 Synchronized or slave clocks[/list]2.3 Controller2.4 Counter chain2.5 Indicator[/list]3 Types3.1 Time display methods3.1.1 Analog clocks3.1.2 Digital clocks3.1.3 Auditory clocks[/list][/list]4 Purposes4.1 Ideal clocks4.2 Navigation[/list]5 Seismology6 Specific types of clocks7 See also7.1 Newsgroup[/list]8 Notes9 References10 External links[/list][edit]HistoryReplica of an ancient Chineseincense clockThe clock is one of the oldest human inventions, meeting the need to consistently measure intervals of time shorter than the natural units, the day, thelunar month, and the year. Such measurements require devices. Devices operating on several different physical processes have been used over the millennia, culminating in the clocks of today.[edit]Sundials and other devicesThe sundial, which measures the time of day by the direction of shadows cast by the sun, was widely used in ancient times. A well-designed sundial can measure local solar time with reasonable accuracy, and sundials continued to be used to monitor the performance of clocks until the modern era. However, its practical limitations - it requires the sun to shine and does not work at all during the night - encouraged the use of other techniques for measuring time. In India, the King of Jaipur the Pink City, Jai Singh II constructed many instruments and sundials in the observatories in cities Jaipur, Varanasi, Ujjain, Mathura between 1724-1730 A.D. He had a good interest in astronomy and town planning.Candle clocks, and sticks of incense that burn down at approximately predictable speeds have also been used to estimate the passing of time. In anhourglass, fine sand pours through a tiny hole at a constant rate and indicates a predetermined passage of an arbitrary period of time.[edit]Water clocksMain article: Water clockA scale model of Su Song'sAstronomical Clock Tower, built in 11th century Kaifeng, China. It was driven by a large waterwheel, chain drive, and escapement mechanism.Water clocks, also known as clepsydrae (sg: clepsydra), along with the sundials, are possibly the oldest time-measuring instruments, with the only exceptions being the vertical gnomon and the day-counting tally stick.[3] Given their great antiquity, where and when they first existed are not known and perhaps unknowable. The bowl-shaped outflow is the simplest form of a water clock and is known to have existed in Babylon and in Egypt around the 16th century BC. Other regions of the world, including India and China, also have early evidence of water clocks, but the earliest dates are less certain. Some authors, however, write about water clocks appearing as early as 4000 BC in these regions of the world.[4]Greek astronomer, Andronicus of Cyrrhus, supervised the construction of the Tower of the Winds in Athens in the 1st century B.C.[5]The Greek and Roman civilizations are credited for initially advancing water clock design to include complex gearing,[6] which was connected to fancifulautomata and also resulted in improved accuracy. These advances were passed on through Byzantium and Islamic times, eventually making their way toEurope. Independently, the Chinese developed their own advanced water clocks, passing their ideas on to Korea and Japan.Some water clock designs were developed independently and some knowledge was transferred through the spread of trade. It is important to point out that the need for the common person to 'know what time it is' largely did not exist until the Industrial Revolution, when it became important to keep track of hours worked. In the earliest of times, however, the purpose for using a water clock was for astronomical and astrological reasons. These early water clocks were calibrated with a sundial. While never reaching the level of accuracy based on today's standards of timekeeping, the water clock was the most accurate and commonly used timekeeping device for millennia, until it was replaced by the more accurate pendulum clock in 17th century Europe.In 797 (or possibly 801), the Abbasid caliph of Baghdad, Harun al-Rashid, presented Charlemagne with an Asian Elephant named Abul-Abbas together with a "particularly elaborate example" of a water [7] clock.An elephant clock in a manuscript byAl-Jazari (1206 AD) from The Book of Knowledge of Ingenious Mechanical Devices. [8]In the 13th century, Al-Jazari, an engineer who worked for Artuqid king of Diyar-Bakr, Nasir al-Din, made numerous clocks of all shapes and sizes. The book described 50 mechanical devices in 6 categories, including water clocks. The most reputed clocks included the Elephant, the Castle and Scribe clocks, all of which have been successfully reconstructed. As well as telling the time, these grand clocks were symbols of status, grandeur and wealth of the Urtuq State.[9][edit]Early mechanical clocksNone of the first clocks survived from 13th century Europe, but various mentions in church records reveal some of the early history of the clock.[10]Medieval religious institutions required clocks to measure and indicate the passing of time because, for many centuries, daily prayer and work schedules had to be strictly regulated. This was done by various types of time-telling and recording devices, such as water clocks, sundials and marked candles, probably used in combination. Important times and durations w
Clock at the Royal Observatory, GreenwichContents [hide]1 History1.1 Sundials and other devices1.2 Water clocks1.3 Early mechanical clocks1.3.1 A new mechanism1.3.2 Early astronomical clocks[/list]1.4 Later developments[/list]2 How clocks work2.1 Power source2.2 Oscillator2.2.1 Synchronized or slave clocks[/list]2.3 Controller2.4 Counter chain2.5 Indicator[/list]3 Types3.1 Time display methods3.1.1 Analog clocks3.1.2 Digital clocks3.1.3 Auditory clocks[/list][/list]4 Purposes4.1 Ideal clocks4.2 Navigation[/list]5 Seismology6 Specific types of clocks7 See also7.1 Newsgroup[/list]8 Notes9 References10 External links[/list][edit]HistoryReplica of an ancient Chineseincense clockThe clock is one of the oldest human inventions, meeting the need to consistently measure intervals of time shorter than the natural units, the day, thelunar month, and the year. Such measurements require devices. Devices operating on several different physical processes have been used over the millennia, culminating in the clocks of today.[edit]Sundials and other devicesThe sundial, which measures the time of day by the direction of shadows cast by the sun, was widely used in ancient times. A well-designed sundial can measure local solar time with reasonable accuracy, and sundials continued to be used to monitor the performance of clocks until the modern era. However, its practical limitations - it requires the sun to shine and does not work at all during the night - encouraged the use of other techniques for measuring time. In India, the King of Jaipur the Pink City, Jai Singh II constructed many instruments and sundials in the observatories in cities Jaipur, Varanasi, Ujjain, Mathura between 1724-1730 A.D. He had a good interest in astronomy and town planning.Candle clocks, and sticks of incense that burn down at approximately predictable speeds have also been used to estimate the passing of time. In anhourglass, fine sand pours through a tiny hole at a constant rate and indicates a predetermined passage of an arbitrary period of time.[edit]Water clocksMain article: Water clockA scale model of Su Song'sAstronomical Clock Tower, built in 11th century Kaifeng, China. It was driven by a large waterwheel, chain drive, and escapement mechanism.Water clocks, also known as clepsydrae (sg: clepsydra), along with the sundials, are possibly the oldest time-measuring instruments, with the only exceptions being the vertical gnomon and the day-counting tally stick.[3] Given their great antiquity, where and when they first existed are not known and perhaps unknowable. The bowl-shaped outflow is the simplest form of a water clock and is known to have existed in Babylon and in Egypt around the 16th century BC. Other regions of the world, including India and China, also have early evidence of water clocks, but the earliest dates are less certain. Some authors, however, write about water clocks appearing as early as 4000 BC in these regions of the world.[4]Greek astronomer, Andronicus of Cyrrhus, supervised the construction of the Tower of the Winds in Athens in the 1st century B.C.[5]The Greek and Roman civilizations are credited for initially advancing water clock design to include complex gearing,[6] which was connected to fancifulautomata and also resulted in improved accuracy. These advances were passed on through Byzantium and Islamic times, eventually making their way toEurope. Independently, the Chinese developed their own advanced water clocks, passing their ideas on to Korea and Japan.Some water clock designs were developed independently and some knowledge was transferred through the spread of trade. It is important to point out that the need for the common person to 'know what time it is' largely did not exist until the Industrial Revolution, when it became important to keep track of hours worked. In the earliest of times, however, the purpose for using a water clock was for astronomical and astrological reasons. These early water clocks were calibrated with a sundial. While never reaching the level of accuracy based on today's standards of timekeeping, the water clock was the most accurate and commonly used timekeeping device for millennia, until it was replaced by the more accurate pendulum clock in 17th century Europe.In 797 (or possibly 801), the Abbasid caliph of Baghdad, Harun al-Rashid, presented Charlemagne with an Asian Elephant named Abul-Abbas together with a "particularly elaborate example" of a water [7] clock.An elephant clock in a manuscript byAl-Jazari (1206 AD) from The Book of Knowledge of Ingenious Mechanical Devices. [8]In the 13th century, Al-Jazari, an engineer who worked for Artuqid king of Diyar-Bakr, Nasir al-Din, made numerous clocks of all shapes and sizes. The book described 50 mechanical devices in 6 categories, including water clocks. The most reputed clocks included the Elephant, the Castle and Scribe clocks, all of which have been successfully reconstructed. As well as telling the time, these grand clocks were symbols of status, grandeur and wealth of the Urtuq State.[9][edit]Early mechanical clocksNone of the first clocks survived from 13th century Europe, but various mentions in church records reveal some of the early history of the clock.[10]Medieval religious institutions required clocks to measure and indicate the passing of time because, for many centuries, daily prayer and work schedules had to be strictly regulated. This was done by various types of time-telling and recording devices, such as water clocks, sundials and marked candles, probably used in combination. Important times and durations w
Valind
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A Brief History of Time is a popular science book written by Stephen Hawking and first published by the Bantam Dell Publishing Group in 1988.[1] It became a best-seller and has sold more than 9 million copies. It was also on the London Sunday Times best-seller list for more than four years.[2]There is also a documentary by the same name, directed by Errol Morris and released in 1991. Unlike the book, the documentary is primarily abiography of Stephen Hawking.Contents [hide]1 Book contents2 Editions3 Film4 References5 External links[/list][edit]Book contentsA Brief History of Time attempts to explain a range of subjects in cosmology, including the Big Bang, black holes, light cones and superstring theory, to the nonspecialist reader. Its main goal is to give an overview of the subject but, unusual for a popular science book, it also attempts to explain some complex mathematics. The author notes that an editor warned him that for every equation in the book the readership would be halved, hence it includes only a single equation: E = mc2. In addition to Hawking's abstinence from equations, the book also simplifies matters by means of illustrations throughout the text, depicting complex models and diagrams.[edit]Editions1988. Edition. This edition included an Introduction by Carl Sagan that tells the following story: Sagan was in London for a scientific conference in 1974, and between sessions he wandered into a different room, where a larger meeting was taking place. "I realized that I was watching an ancient ceremony: the investiture of new fellows into the Royal Society, one of the most ancient scholarly organizations on the planet. In the front row, a young man in a wheelchair was, very slowly, signing his name in a book that bore on its earliest pages the signature of Isaac Newton... Stephen Hawking was a legend even then." In his Introduction, Sagan goes on to add that Hawking is the "worthy successor" to Newton and P. A. M. Dirac, both former Lucasian Professors of Mathematics.[3][/list]The Introduction disappeared after the first edition. It was copyrighted by Sagan, rather than by Hawking or the publisher, and the publisher did not have the right to reprint it forever. Hawking wrote his own introduction for later editions.1996—Illustrated, updated and expanded edition. This hardcover edition contained full color illustrations and photographs to help further explain the text, as well as the addition of topics that were not included in the original book.[/list]1998—The Tenth Anniversary Edition—Is the same text as the one published in 1996, but was also released in paperback and has only a few diagrams included.[/list]September 2005 saw the release of A Briefer History of Time (a collaboration with Leonard Mlodinow), which is an abridged version of the original book. It was updated again to address new issues that have arisen due to further scientific development.
SteezyOhio
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really? so the 23 hours, 59 minutes in everyday dont mean anything? it doesnt account for the 360 degrees that the earth rotates in that span of time? the 365.25 days in a year dont account for the time it takes the earth to fully orbit around the sun? clocks wouldnt exist without time, because a clock measure time, without time what does a clock measure......NOTHING!
Dub_Digital
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^ what are you trying to say?....that just proves that time does not exist, simply because WE have to make something just to observe it....think about it
Hansel.
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Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day
You fritter and waste the hours in an offhand way
Kicking around on a piece of ground in your home town
Waiting for someone or something to show you the way
Tired of lying in the sunshine
Staying home to watch the rain
And you are young and life is long
And there is time to kill today
And then one day you find
Ten years have got behind you
No one told you when to run
You missed the starting gun
And you run, and you run to catch up with the sun, but it's sinking
Racing around to come up behind you again
The sun is the same in a relative way, but you're older
Shorter of breath and one day closer to death
Every year is getting shorter
Never seem to find the time
Plans that either come to naught
Or half a page of scribbled lines
Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way
The time is gone
The song is over
Thought I'd something more to say
Home, home again
I like to be here when I can
When I come home cold and tired
It's good to warm my bones beside the fire
Far away across the field
The tolling of the iron bell
Calls the faithful to their knees
To hear the softly spoken magic spells
oh yea all from memory, took me long to make it nice and need for you peeps to read
You fritter and waste the hours in an offhand way
Kicking around on a piece of ground in your home town
Waiting for someone or something to show you the way
Tired of lying in the sunshine
Staying home to watch the rain
And you are young and life is long
And there is time to kill today
And then one day you find
Ten years have got behind you
No one told you when to run
You missed the starting gun
And you run, and you run to catch up with the sun, but it's sinking
Racing around to come up behind you again
The sun is the same in a relative way, but you're older
Shorter of breath and one day closer to death
Every year is getting shorter
Never seem to find the time
Plans that either come to naught
Or half a page of scribbled lines
Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way
The time is gone
The song is over
Thought I'd something more to say
Home, home again
I like to be here when I can
When I come home cold and tired
It's good to warm my bones beside the fire
Far away across the field
The tolling of the iron bell
Calls the faithful to their knees
To hear the softly spoken magic spells
oh yea all from memory, took me long to make it nice and need for you peeps to read
soulskier
Active member
TIME! Is marching on.
And time.. is still marching on.
This day will soon be at an end and now it's even sooner.
And now it's even sooner.
And now it's even sooner.
This day will soon be at an end and now it's even sooner.
And now it's even sooner.
And now it's sooner still.
You're older than you've ever been.
And now you're even older.
And now you're even older.
And now you're even older.
You're older than you've ever been.
And now you're even older.
And now you're older still.
And time.. is still marching on.
This day will soon be at an end and now it's even sooner.
And now it's even sooner.
And now it's even sooner.
This day will soon be at an end and now it's even sooner.
And now it's even sooner.
And now it's sooner still.
You're older than you've ever been.
And now you're even older.
And now you're even older.
And now you're even older.
You're older than you've ever been.
And now you're even older.
And now you're older still.
Frank_Spinatra
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liukangkid
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Dub_Digital
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uhhh.....yeah calender time is measured by earths orbit, but seconds and hours are completely different...its like the amount of energy a sertain substance gives off in a sertain amount of time, thats exactly how rolex's work.......clocks DO NOT measure time, its not a measurment, its a controlled speed.....there is nothing to measure....its like buying a thermometer that always has the same temp, and saying that that measures temp
Desired_Name
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The real question is...HOW THE HECK DO HOMELESS CHINESE ORPHANS TELL TIME?!?!?! THEY DONT EVEN HAVE A HOUSE!!!!
SteezyOhio
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seconds and minutes are not different, if anything a calendar is different. it takes 23 hours 59 minutes for Washington D.C. to go 360 degrees around the earth pivoting axis, during this time it will pass noon and midnight, each are roughly 12 hours apart, thus your saying that time has nothing to do with the rotation of earth? the earth rotates at the same speed correct? and a hour in december is still as long as a hour in july correct? then how is time not a measurement? clocks dont measure time, the simply produce where we are on our rotation around earth, thus we have time zones, other wise 12 o'clock noon in new your would be 12 o'clock noon in japan, but in japan it would be dark out.......
westSide.Steeze
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Pretty deep man, i like it
westSide.Steeze
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Because I havent heard of one Floyd Song means i dont know music History, haha, whatever dude keep your negative vibes out of this thread.
Dub_Digital
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ughhhh......yeah the earth rotates mkay, but does that really measure time? doesnt that seem completely random?....."oh time is gunna be decided based upon how long a planet rotates" ....like nah....yes the rotation of the earth is acurate, but why should THAT be the basis for time...all I'm saying is on a bigger scale time may or may not exist, either way it is completely useless. think about it, all the energy and matter that is in existence EVER will always be in "space" and since it will always be there, what does "time" have to do with anything, time doesnt happen, CHANGE happens, people just try to put a label on that
captaincrunch
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my threads (before this degenerates into memes and beef. thats gonna be the good stuff.)
SteezyOhio
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true, all i was saying is humans have come up with time as our way of telling where we are in the rotation, cause earth/matter/energy were always here, but time doesnt exist, didnt exist till we came along, we figure the amount of daylight to night that there was and the area of the sky the sun was in, and eventually came up with a means of measurement, time doesnt exist without humans, and clocks exist only to tell time.
panojibber
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Agreed, those are lyrics people should know. Not negative vibes, just a reprimand for ignorance of a great band. No hate either way.
I have to admit, the Floyd song was the first thing I thought of when I saw the thread title.
I have to admit, the Floyd song was the first thing I thought of when I saw the thread title.
Guavajelly
Member
thus like the OP said time does not exist but clocks do.
SteezyOhio
Active member
clocks dont exist without time, what would the measure?
ThunderousFilms
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It is something that people dont understand, and when people dont understand something they make images to comfort themselves, just like the indians with the rain or sun god.
Guavajelly
Member
like you said time measures how long it takes the earth spin 360, which is useful when trying communicate and sceduale, so relative time is real because we made it up, but that doesnt mean theres absolute time.
Scott22~
Member
Actually clocks are a way of recording simultaneous events. Also the earth doesnt match our 24 hour/day system. Think leap years. 24 hours is just easier. In physics time is an imaginary number which varies based on the speed of the observer. See lorentz transformations, Einstein etc. Now somebody with better knowledge of physics than me can feel free to show me up~
SteezyOhio
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how is there not absolute time? how long does it take for the earth to rotate around the sun 360 degrees on its plant orbit? its not that we made up how long it takes earth to rotate around itself or the sun, its that we figured out how long these events take, and we figured out how the divide up into the seasons, you know for when the axis of the earth is at 1/4 rotation around the sun and the polar difference is effected, we figured how long it took to rotate 360degrees around ourselves, as i explained earlier, so time was always there, we just figured it out and how its measured, which we then used a clock to site and measure time.
SteezyOhio
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well yea, leap years is how we have made up for the 23 hours and 59 or so minutes it takes to rotate 360 degrees, and after 4 years the extra minutes add up giving us the leap day? correct?
Guavajelly
Member
Sure it appears the earth takes 24 hours to rotate but the earth also appears flat when looked at on a small enough scale. Like scott22 said time is based on the observer.
Brock.
Active member
Time is a component of the measuring system used to sequence events, to compare the durations of events and the intervals between them, and to quantify the motions of objects. Time has been a major subject of religion, philosophy, and science, but defining it in a non-controversial manner applicable to all fields of study has consistently eluded the greatest scholars.
captaincrunch
Member
god i did NOT wanna leave something scientific, but here it is:
if time is, in fact, a dimension, then all points along this dimention exist at the same time. this means that time does not exist as a moving, progressing entity, which is how it is commonly percieved.
thats my take on it.
if time is, in fact, a dimension, then all points along this dimention exist at the same time. this means that time does not exist as a moving, progressing entity, which is how it is commonly percieved.
thats my take on it.
pommes_vertes.
Active member
this thread is full of terrible.
steezyohio, you are entirely, completely, 100% wrong.
as is anyone else who says time doesn't exist, or that it's a product of human beings.
if anybody would like a real explanation, pm me. i'm not going to post in this thread because i'm tired, and it'll only get buried in stupid anyway.
steezyohio, you are entirely, completely, 100% wrong.
as is anyone else who says time doesn't exist, or that it's a product of human beings.
if anybody would like a real explanation, pm me. i'm not going to post in this thread because i'm tired, and it'll only get buried in stupid anyway.
