Time to spread some e-hate.

Lord_Piot

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The most expensive purchase most Americans will ever make is their own government. Government costs the average American more than their home, more than their health care, more than their childrens' college education. Yet people who would spend a great deal of time kicking the tires before buying a new car spend disastrously little time checking out the government that sucks so much money out of them over their lifetimes.

Right now, looking under the hood of that expensive item called 'government', we see a unified group of men and women who lied to send your children off to a war of conquest. Across this land there are thousands of families waking up to the knowledge that their sons and daughters were crippled and killed in Iraq for reasons other than what they were told.

First off, let's dispense with this crap about 'Intelligence failures'. An Intelligence Failure is when something is happening that you don't know about. You miss the evidence. Or you misinterpret the evidence you have.

But with regards to the claims about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, there was no evidence to miss or misinterpret. There could not be, since in hindsight there were no weapons to leave traces of evidence with. The story about weapons of mass destruction was just made up, and fraudulently manufactured 'proof' created to support that lie. The mere existence of Tony Blair's dossier, plagiarized from a student thesis, is proof not only that the claims of Iraq WMDs were lies, but were known and conscious lies. Had their been any real proof, it would have been shared immediately between the various war-mongers. There would have been no need for Tony Blair to concoct his discredited Dossier. But, what the public were offered were mislabeled and blurry photos, made up dossiers, and balloon inflators misidentified as mobile biological weapons laboratories (which the British government knew about since they had sold the balloon inflators to Iraq in the first place).

So, there was no 'intelligence failure'. There was no intelligence with which to fail. The whole crock about Iraqi WMDs was a made-up fiction.

The government lied.

While only a few people created the lie, mostly connected with the Pentagon's Office of Special Projects and presumably via the Israeli spies since discovered within, coordinated with the similar propaganda group working out of Ariel Sharon's office, the fact is that the entire United States Government and the mainstream media news departments all signed onto that lie with a will. Now, news pundits and some members of Congress have since taken the position they ohgollygeewhiz but they were taken in by the lies as well. But this is just another face-saving deception. There is such a thing as due diligence and checking facts; behaviors expected of both journalists and congresscritters. Months before the invasion of Iraq, internet web sites like this one, using easily available facts, had discredited the claims of Iraq's WMDs, exposed Tony Blair's plagiarized dossier, and correctly identified those trailers as the balloon inflators they were. It must be assumed that Congressional offices and media corporations with large staffs and huge budgets would have had an easy time finding the same facts that web sites operating on spare change were able to find. Therefore, going along with the lies about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction had to be an intentional act of will.

The government lied.

What does it mean to live under a government that lies to you?

Is the war just, moral, and necessary? You cannot know for certain under a government that lies to you.

Are taxes legal and fair? You cannot know for certain under a government that lies to you.

Is the public money being spent wholly on the public? You cannot know for certain under a government that lies to you.

Are you really free? You cannot know for certain under a government that lies to you.

Is life in this nation really better than anywhere else? You cannot know for certain under a government that lies to you.

When you live under a government that lies, you cannot know anything for certain about your lives. All you can know is what you are told. And, because of the lies about the Iraq WMDs, what we know we are told is what the government tells us to trick us into agreeing with whatever their own purpose happens to be. And if, whether you know it or not, are are doing what the government wants, even to the deaths of your own children, then you are a slave.

Americans are the most lied-to people on Earth. The global perception of the 'Ugly American' isn't that we are ugly, but that we are so clueless about what is going on in the world, in particular the evils committed by the United States Government using our taxes and children behind our backs. Our government craps on other peoples' nations, while we are told that those people love us, sit up nights to admire us, and lead good moral lives so that when they die, their souls will go to America. And when we visit those countries where the US Government plays their covert games, our delusions run headlong into their reality, and feelings (and if we are lucky, little else) get hurt.

Baby sitters will often give their children a choice of whether to go to bed at 7:30 or at 8:00. The child will choose 8:00 and go to bed happy thinking that he or she had a choice. But the agenda of the baby sitter was to have the child in bed by 8:00 before the arrival of another guest at 8:30. The child has been tricked into doing what the baby sitter wanted, while thinking the choice was theirs. That is how mind control, or brainwashing works; by giving the target ONLY those facts which will lead them to conclude, seemingly of their own free will, that their only course of action was what the government wanted in the first place.

That is what happened in Iraq. The public were all told by the government and media that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction that could be deployed in just 45 minutes. And, based on that claim and the absence of any facts to the contrary (except here on the internet) many Americans decided that the war was necessary and felt that had come to that decision of their own free will. In hindsight, of course, that decision was not of their own free will but was the desired outcome of the manufactured lies about Iraq. Those that doubted the lies at the start were dismissed with the assurance that the mainstream media, serving as a watchdog on government abuse, would expose lies if they existed. Again in hindsight, the media was working hand in glove to sell those very lies to the people whose taxes and children were spent on the sands of Iraq.

The Declaration of Independence declares the principle that government derive their just powers from the consent of the governed. I DO NOT GIVE MY CONSENT TO BE LIED TOI don't know anyone who gives their consent to be lied to. Moreover, one cannot give consent to be lied to because one cannot know what one is consenting to. No court would enforce a contract where one party does not know the terms of the contract being agreed to.

The Constitution does not authorize the government to lie to We The People. The tenth amendment bars the government from presuming that right. When the government lies, it therefore acts unconstitutionally and illegally. A government that lies to the people breaks faith with the people, violates the contract between the government and the people under which the people consent to be governed. A government that lies to the people delegitimizes itself. A government that lies to the people ceases to be the lawful government of this land. Surely the lies used to initiate a war of conquest into another nation are the worst possible lies a government can commit against its own people. And with such a lie, the United States ceases to be a nation, and becomes a land under occupation by force.

America. It is already to late to save your way of life. IT IS NOW TIME TO SALVAGE ENOUGH OF WHAT SHOULD BE LEFT. CIVIL WAR ALREADY OCCURED AS A RESULT OF SPLIT IDEALS. AS WE ALL KNOW IT WAS DEFFINELY NOT PRETTY. DEMAND CHANGE. KERRY IS NOT CHANGE. KERRY IS THE SUPERJEW SENT TO FIX DUBBYAS MESS. FUCK NADER. NADER IS AN IDIOT. I SERIOUSLY DONT SEE A SOLUTION AT THIS POINT. BUT THAT IS ALSO THE REASON I AM NOT IN POWER. SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE AND ALL THE WORLD NEEDS IS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO DEMAND CHANGE. NOT ORCHESTRATE CHANGE. JUST DEMAND IT. MOST OF YOU FUCKEN YANKS DISMISS THIS AS UN-AMERICAN PROPAGANDA BUT THE FACT REMAINS WHATEVER CHANGE IN US FOREIGN OR DOMESTIC POLICY DICTATES CHANGE IN THE REST OF THE WORLD. GET OFF YOUR MCASSES AND DO SOMETHING. ATLEAST FUCKEN VOTE.

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Lord_Piot is only concerned about weather or not the us foreign policy will affect his ability to obtain weed or not... - anewmorning.

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all you have to worry about it the capital text at the bottom of the post.

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Lord_Piot is only concerned about weather or not the us foreign policy will affect his ability to obtain weed or not... - anewmorning.

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ah yes, i am an advocate for free speech...that last part reminds me of the entire context of unamerican.com....

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I don't think Nader is an idiot. I also don't think Kerry is 'the Superjew sent to fix Dubya's messes.' What does that mean?

Wayne: 'I don't own a gun, let alone many guns that would necessitate the use of a rack. What am I going to do... with a gun rack?'
 
You wrote the part in capslock yourself didn't you.

Just to inflame some people and laugh at them tomorrow when they get all angry. Then you'll call them towelheads and laugh even harder when they get even more pissed off.

But, you can always fall back on your degree in... Communications! Oh, dear Lord!

I know! Is phony major. Lubchenko learn nothing. Nothing!

Our greatest glory consists not in never falling. But in rising every time we fall.

Breathe and Stop

Ninja Steeze 05

 
yes i wrote the caps lock (i dont take any credit for the other text. its from a bi-partisan source and is only there for the people who want to read it. it is there to engage discussion)

and yes kerry is jewish how many of you knew that.

kamikaze i see you have taken note of my critisizen of zion. if you would like to pursue further talks. modrapet@hotmail.com msn style

i believe there i can proper express myself. i am not an anti-semite. i am an anti-fuckenwarmongeringjews.

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Lord_Piot is only concerned about weather or not the us foreign policy will affect his ability to obtain weed or not... - anewmorning.

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The Kerry is a superjew part gave it away.

But, you can always fall back on your degree in... Communications! Oh, dear Lord!

I know! Is phony major. Lubchenko learn nothing. Nothing!

Our greatest glory consists not in never falling. But in rising every time we fall.

Breathe and Stop

Ninja Steeze 05

 
think what you want but zionism is already such a large part of your governments agenda its not funny.

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Lord_Piot is only concerned about weather or not the us foreign policy will affect his ability to obtain weed or not... - anewmorning.

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i read it.

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-lateralis

'It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it.'

-Dubya.

'You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on.'

'Cocaine is God's way of saying your're making too much money.'

Robin Williams.

'I don't like people who take drugs... Customs men for example.'
 
so do you support bush? or are you pissed half the people in america doesnt vote? what do you want to say, just souns like you pissed at America

 
piot, you swatyed me without even reading anything....after all of your posts i've come to the conclusion america sucks! ::in robot voice:: command me to do whatever you wish piot.

seriosuly man, send me your cd's and kill yourself.

**Proud member of the d-loc fanclub**

d-loc's wit & wisdom at its best.
 
i read a couple of paragraphs........... and skimmed the rest. but the last sentence is true. half the problems in this country stem from half the country not voting. and then, the people that don't vote are the people that bitch about it.

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wow hellmut, you obviously did not read that post, or couldnt make head or tail of it.

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^^ HAHAHAHA i vote yet i HATE politics... im not going to just sit around though and not vote. i may know some issues being presented but the only issues i focus on are facts, and in a political debate their arent too many facts. so i see no need to get involved in something thats never ending...

yes thats right, the debate is never ending and pointless.

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Some people talk it, some people live it, some people walk it-some people give it... deal with it.

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land of the free???@#! haha right... free to the power of the people in uniform

skiin', smokin', snackin', sexin', sleepin'... all anyone needs in life
 
I got this far:

''But with regards to the claims about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, there was no evidence to miss or misinterpret. There could not be, since in hindsight there were no weapons to leave traces of evidence with.''

And immediately said to myself... Wow. Fallacy much? If you're going to argue that the admin knew what they were doing when they went into Iraq, look no further than CIA reports BEFORE the invasion that the alleged centrifuges for making Nukes were unable to perform that function, and that the yellow-cake was non-existent. They knew that, and they reported it. But no one cares, apparently. Anyways, I got off ona tangent there. The logic in the above quote is fatally flawed.

And I thought Kerry was a Catholic? I stand corrected. He's a superjew now.

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^^ yes he change religions because piot told him to, it fits his political views better than him being a catholic.

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I ain't the type of brotha made for you to start tessin', give me a smith and wesson and i'll have niggas undressin' -nas

'maybe we should stick to anal sex and fighting preggos heh?'-ellerman
 
Hahahaha 'SUPERJEW' hahaha... that's a keeper.

----2ond in Command of DANSA-----

To Huck. v. The act of throwing oneself off of a cornice, cliff, rock, or any other thing that results in an attempt to fly.

If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.
 
J.D. MAY how do you know what you find is true?

well my friend, ya dont. nothing is to be taken as a fact unless you see it urself.

its all internet talk, get over it

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Some people talk it, some people live it, some people walk it-some people give it... deal with it.

D-Loc AKA Shaky Bones... Original, Unique, and One of a Kind.

land of the free???@#! haha right... free to the power of the people in uniform

skiin', smokin', snackin', sexin', sleepin'... all anyone needs in life
 
yeah let me believe what the CIA tells the public... it must be true right?

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Some people talk it, some people live it, some people walk it-some people give it... deal with it.

D-Loc AKA Shaky Bones... Original, Unique, and One of a Kind.

land of the free???@#! haha right... free to the power of the people in uniform

skiin', smokin', snackin', sexin', sleepin'... all anyone needs in life
 
i very much disagree with the republicans and with the democrats disturbing similarity to them. i have no idea about kerry's religion but labeling him a superjew pushing a zionist agenda destroys your credibility. israel has/is making big mistakes but they are being created by the fundamentalist right wing of the israeli government which is acting against the wishes of a significant percent of israelis, never mind world jewry. eat shit and die. cut and pasting an article uncovering the conspiracies in the government obviously dosnt make you less ignorant

P.O.W.D.E.R.

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haha sit back and watch then

'fight for america, die for israel'

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Lord_Piot is only concerned about weather or not the us foreign policy will affect his ability to obtain weed or not... - anewmorning.

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Haha, you said get off your mcasses and vote, and the next guy that posted said 'too much reading' and had a mcdonalds icon.

 
I love how all you canadians tell us what to do and how to run our system, as if we even give a shit.

We pay our debt sometimes.
 
^^^ that dosnt even make sense. you have completely failed to defend your 'superjew' comment. ^and yes i am canadian but being jewish i think im more than qualified to take issue with that particular part of the post

P.O.W.D.E.R.

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i think kerry is a super jew and nader is a treehugger. everything he said is 100% true

-stix and snow will break my bones and i will bleed profusely-
 
you fucken right its true.

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Lord_Piot is only concerned about weather or not the us foreign policy will affect his ability to obtain weed or not... - anewmorning.

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great comeback. pinky promise and youve got me convinced

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for the record i agree with much of what was said in the article, i am only taking issue with the implied anti-semitism near the end. im simply asking you to explain what you mean by 'superjew', not with slogans or capitol letters but in an actual argument.

P.O.W.D.E.R.

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Are you claiming these ideas as your own?

What web sight did you borrow this information from? I doubt the website inferred in your quote is NS. If it is that would not really help the credability of the argument.

“Months before the invasion of Iraq, INTERNET WEB SIGHTS LIKE THIS ONE, using easily available facts, had discredited the claims of Iraq's WMDs, exposed Tony Blair's plagiarized dossier, and correctly identified those trailers as the balloon inflators they were.�

 
Nadar isnt an idiot, the people who vote for him are idiots. Also hes not a tree hugger either, hes not even with the green party this election. Piot just likes to ramble on about his political thingies and say how much america sucks. Blah blah blah. You can call me an idiot, even though now that i said that you will probably say you werent going to etc etc. zzzzz

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'political thingies' cant get any more politically correct than that. Piot, you have some stiff competition now.

----2ond in Command of DANSA-----

To Huck. v. The act of throwing oneself off of a cornice, cliff, rock, or any other thing that results in an attempt to fly.

If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.
 
yeah my life is comfortable too. this is an outrage errrr. omg my governmebt sucks so much i mean i hatemy great free education. man to bad lord poit isnt an american bacause then he really whod relize how bad my life is an he would deffinatly change my life for the better. god bless lord piot, god bless

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I didn't even bother to read it 'cuz i knew it'd some leftist propoganda bullshit, because it's author is none other than Piot.

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good idea

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'It is not anti-Semitic to criticize the policies of the state of Israel.' -- Colin Powell

according to your war nigger. i am not an anti-semite

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Lord_Piot is only concerned about weather or not the us foreign policy will affect his ability to obtain weed or not... - anewmorning.

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Lord Piot - Honestly you stupid fuck why the hell do you care so much. What you just said may have been true, I dont know I never take the time to read the garbage you post. But why do you care so much about american affairs, I could see how some topics could affect you but this doesnt at all.

Are you just bored and sad because canada sucks and has no news because no one in the world could care one way or another what happens to that barren wasteland filled with eskimos to the north.

 
Lord_Piot is only concerned about weather or not the us foreign policy will affect his ability to obtain weed or not... - anewmorning.

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Lord_Piot is only concerned about weather or not the us foreign policy will affect his ability to obtain weed or not... - anewmorning.

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