The very noob question - which lens is next?

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So this has been the long debated question - Which lens should I get for my Canon? I have the kit lens (18-55mm) but I am looking add another lens to my aresal. I am going to be doing follow cam film, but in addition to that I plan shoot photography for clubs and outdoor. So I am leaning towards the Tamron, but I am afraid it will be the same thing as my kit.

Any advice? Or other lens' I am overlooking?
 
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Yeah, the 50 f1.8 mk2 is pretty well known to be the perfect Canon 'next-lens' option. Plus, it's awesome if you ever get a 5Dc or something full frame.

After the 50, probably a Tokina 12-24 F4. I'd be pretty content with just one of those and a 50 for a long time.
 
Not at all. I feel like 80 is totally fine - esp. if you already have a kit lens.

Great for portraits, and you can actually get some pretty killer candid street shots with it because of the distance.

Great step before grabbing something around 24 or 28 later on.
 
I'd say keep your kit lens. You could try out a 8mm fisheye, fun to use and good for follows. The tokina 11-16 is a solid lens as well but you might not need it.

Another cool lens that's decent priced is a tamron 28-75 decent range gives you some options and then of course a 70-200 f4 would be a nice addition as well.

The 50mm is overrated for ski filming, you already have a kit lens and if you want a fast prime I'd get a 24 or 35 IMO
 
Just a straight 24mm or 35mm? I am kinda leaning towards maybe a mid range of like 15-25mm now as someone said earlier. How would those fair?
 
Honestly, I would not get a 50mm. It might be sharper and have a fast aperture, but you already have that focal length covered and I think its too long for an "all around" lens on a crop camera. I would lean towards something wider than the kit lens you already have. I personally love to shoot with wide angle lenses and especially if you're looking to shoot follow cams with it, I think it would be the way to go.
 
50mm on a kit lens has a maximum aperture of 5.6, and it's pretty bad at that focal length unless stopped to 11. For 70-80 bucks you can buy a 50 f1.8 and at least have something to use in low-light. then move on to a better wide-zoom not much later on.

I mean, ultimately, yeah, you want something like a 12-24 F4 for followcams and for a do-all wide angle zoom, but a fast 50, for 70$? why the shit not?
 
Considering the price of the nifty fifty everyone should just have at least one.

Mah low-light.

Mah Bokeh.
 
the 12-24 is a stop slower, but it's a very good, solidly sharp lens with a lot more focal range. It's equiv to like 18-36mm (Nikon) or 19-28mm (Canon) or so on a full frame, so it gives you everything from slightly wide of standard, to ultra wide angle. (think of it as similar to something like the 17-40 F4L on a 5D but, with slightly less focal range) The distortion isn't too bad, a little barrel at the wide end and minor pincushion at 24mm, but overall, pretty simple distortion that can be easily corrected, or just ignored since it really isn't that bad. Ultimately, the big thing about this lens is that it's a very good, well constructed lens with great optics and it costs around 300-350$ used depending on the condition...

The 11-16 f2.8 is faster, better in low light situations, but it's also like having a ~16-24mm (Nikon) or ~17-25mm (Canon) - so you really only have wide angle focal length options. It's extremely low distortion, super high quality glass, very sharp (sharper than the 12-24, but only just), and it's really the only thing of it's kind out there. That said, it also costs about 150-200$ more than the 12-24, doesn't give you a ton of focal range, is, at least from what I can tell, almost exactly the same size/weight, and is far more of a special purpose lens for ultrawide applications.

Personally, I would not want to just walk around with the 11-16 almost ever, but if I was predominantly shooting sports, using wide angles, or shooting a lot of followcams, I'd absolutely love one.

on the contrary, I would much much rather have the 12-24, because it contains a longer, more practical focal range, still keeps a constant aperture of F4, and really doesn't have any worse optics once stopped down (the 11-16 is better performing at the 12-24's maximum of F4)

Ultimately, if I'm doing followcams, for almost any sport, I'm not going to want to be using anything greater than F5.6, because I'd rather have the flexibility of a deeper depth of field for maintaining focus. Therefore, having a faster lens wouldn't really mean a whole lot to me unless I was shooting followcams at night - which I really don't see myself doing too often. The extra width that you get out of the 11-16 also doesn't matter, because the wide end on either of these is beyond wide enough for almost any application. Having the ability to shoot with a tighter field of view without needing to change lenses is also very nice.

On top of that, the 11-16 pairs much better with Crop sensor lenses, like the 17-50's out there, while the 12-24 pairs with any 24-70, or 24-100+ lens you can find, which are going to work on full frame if you ever plan to switch, as well as give you a longer focal range to use.

Ultimately, you can't go too wrong with either of these, they're both fantastic lenses. I just think the 12-24 is more practical and cost effective than the 11-16. If I wasn't shooting on Full frame, I'd hands down have something like a 7D, a 12-24, and a 24-105L and keep it at that. (with nikon, probably a D7000, a 12-24, and a 24-120 F4)
 
You don't know how much I appreciate having an in-depth answer like this. This is huge!

As far as it seems the 12-24 is a winner, I am just concerned that the f4 over the f2.8 might be a deal breaker? I don't know I am just rambling and not making a valid point but what are you thinking on this matter.
 
I'm assuming you're using a T2i/T3i or other 18mp variant?

yeah, you'll be totally fine with F4 unless it's a serious low-light situation. One stop of light is not going to make a massive difference anyways. You might as well just spend such money on a generator + work lamp setup, or build some DIY lamps (you can build some pretty solid power for 50-100$)

In such a case, the 70-80$ 50mm lens you're likely to pick up will do the trick. though it has a fairly tight field of view on a crop sensor body, is certainly useable.

You might want to, at some point in the future, consider picking up a 35mm f2, or a Sigma 30mm F1.4 (either will run you around 250, though I've seen the Sigma 30 go as low as 200$ for sure) It will give you at least a fast 'standard' length lens for use in available light - that said, remember how shallow your DOF is going to be. It will be borderline useless in darker scenarios at such an aperture.
 
Great to note, I think I may go in this Direction -

Nifty 50mm with a .9 ND Tiffen filter for shits and giggles...

Then a 12-24 Tokina Because of the added range I will get between that and the 11-17.

And I wanna get some prime glass of probably a 35mm as you mentioned and I should be good.
 
For me, shooting at the wide end is a completely different mindset in the middle/perspective/35-50mm, and again with the jump to 85+. So much so that I'd prefer to switch lenses in between to help me 'reset' my mind. To account for this I'm reducing my focal range and switching out my zooms for fixed lenses, maybe some old ones w/ adaptors to cut costs.

Having equipment you can form a bond to is important if you want to make it an extension of your eyes, so test them out first. Ideally, I want my gear to feel sexy, it gets me inspired, and trust goes a long way in novel situations. So don't stress too much on covering the entire focal range, just get a few lenses you love. Also, in my experience limiting your focal range is better cause you'll stop wondering if 18mm is better than 22mm and think more about the light and composition of the shot.

Note that I don't take video which I imagine to be a completely different hobby.
 
It really depends on what your shooting, if its rail work i would get a fisheye lense...u can get on at henrys for like 250 300 ish but if your shooting jumps i would get a 60-100 ish mm lense
 
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