onenerdykid
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13570442:trevorschu said:
Did you get footbeds when you bought the boots, or are you just using what came with the boot?
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Did you get footbeds when you bought the boots, or are you just using what came with the boot?
onenerdykid
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13572666:californiagrown said:
It sounds like you might have limited dorsiflexion... What is your ankle range of motion like? Easy test- standing barefoot, normal hip width, flex forward at your ankles simultaneously. How far can you get your knees forward before your heels lift up off the ground? Knee barely to your toes, past your toes, well past your toes?
californiagrown
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13573649:onenerdykid said:
Haha oh yeah, tore some ligaments and broke my right ankle a few years back and didn't go to the doctor for a few weeks thinking I had just sprained it... Then the MRI happened and now i have decreased dorsiflexion in it for sure. I've been working on getting it back, mainly for squatting, but it stopped progressing a while ago.
I also have SUPER high arches and insteps, a pretty wide foot and they are both supinted a decent amount.
The weird thing is that my fitter recognized all of it straight off and my boots have never given me this problem till the first few times this season. I'm sure feet/ankles/calves change a little bit each year due to a bunch of factors but damn... I'd like to make a few tweaks to get these back to feeling like a tight hug and not a judo submission hold haha
What are your thoughts on fixes? I'm in a Lange SX120 fyi
californiagrown
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13573730:californiagrown said:
To answer your question... I'm 6'4" and can get my knee about 2-3 inches past my toe on the problem foot(Achilles issue), and almost 5 inches on my "good" side.
trevorschu
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13573645:onenerdykid said:
I have not gotten footbeds but I got fitted for heel lifts at the shop which they said should probably fix the problem. Also gonna ski this weekend so hopefully they will help and my boots will break in more.
onenerdykid
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13573730:californiagrown said:
13573752:californiagrown said:
With people who have limited dorsiflexion, the main strategy (besides good footbeds) is having a boot that does not allow you to flex past the limitation in your flexibility, usually meaning upright stance (13°-12° of forward lean) and a stiff flex. The Lange SX 120 is definitely upright and on the stiffer side, but not regarded as a really stiff boot especially if you are 6'4". But, I would say you are in one of the better boots for someone with such a biomechanical limitation. Do you think the boots are stiff enough for you? Was there ever a scenario when you were last skiing where you totally over-flexed the boot and possibly stressed that injury/area?
onenerdykid
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13573791:trevorschu said:
Honestly, it is 99% most likely going to be fixed with a good footbed. Heel lifts don't solve the problem of the foot flexing and twisting inside the boot while skiing. In order to solve the cramping etc, you need to get a proper footbed made for your feet.
trevorschu
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13574168:onenerdykid said:
If the problem continues, I will definitely look into getting custom beds
californiagrown
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13574165:onenerdykid said:
Yes, there are certainly those times, but at 6'4" and 200lbs what can you expect?! Any suggestions to mcguiver the boot?
The Achilles issue is the worst problem. It's more of a bad pinch/bruise/trauma issue. Why is that happening? I'm an engineer and like to know the cause before figuring out a solution.
onenerdykid
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13574625:californiagrown said:
Making that specific boot stiffer is going to be difficult because there are already 2(?) screws in the back. If there's only one, you can drill a hole and add another and it will boost the flex by about 10 points. But the bigger problem is the soft plastic over the instep- as you flex forward, it will collapse and there's nothing you can really do to stop it. On their RX/RS models, that piece is absent which yields a more structurally sound shell design. But, those models are also narrower & lower volume...
Your Achilles problem is most likely due to/associated with your limited dorsiflexion. If your boot allows you to flex more than your biomechanics allow (especially during those singular, hard "bottom outs"), then it will strain your Achilles for sure and lead to pain/swelling in the area you described. I hate to say it, but finding a boot that has a similar geometry (upright stance of 12° or 13°) but a more stable shell will help you a lot. But nonetheless it would be a good idea to see a PT in order to help heal that area before it gets worse.
You could also look into getting a firm Intuition Power Wrap liner. This liner style will help keep you more upright (nice, thick padding in front of the shin) and because they use very firm foam, it will help keep the shell a bit more stable than you current liner. This will be easy to test in the shop for you at least too.
californiagrown
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13574927:onenerdykid said:
I think I'll go for the liner option.
It's really tough to find boots that work for me due the shape of my foot having aspects on opposite ends of the spectrum from average. I need a performance fit, with a stiff flex and something that can accommodate a really high top of my foot- that vein gets smushed really fucking easily.
Any suggestions for off season shopping this spring(call around to make sure shops have them in stock to try on)?
SamNewton1
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onenerdykid and tom whats your opinions on a custom superfeet using the new machine versus say a sidas custom?
onenerdykid
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13577464:SamNewton1 said:
Anything by Superfeet will be more of a fancy trim-to-fit solution, which may or may not work well for your needs. A Sidas custom has the potential to provide you with a super good interface to your boot, but that depends entirely on the how good the person making the footbed is.
Trim to fits are good because they can't be screwed up, but they may not provide you with what you really need. Custom footbeds can provide you with what you need, but they can be really shitty if the person making them doesn't know what they are doing.
FinBastard
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Help me out fam, so I just got a pair of brand new Full tilt Descendant 4's and They fit my leg good length and width wise, but I just cant buckle the middle and upper latches. The lowest latch buckels up nice, but the two upper ones just aren't long enough to close. And I checked and they are at the biggest settings they can get. What do?
FinBastard
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13581331:FinBastard said:
Nvm fam. Got my solution already
onenerdykid
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13584839:Profahoben_212 said:
98mm boots tend to be simply wide versions of a company's world cup fit, so the free space around the navicular and/or medial ankle bones is very minimal. Because the shell therefore sits closer to the foot, the first step is 100% making sure your footbed is dialed and if you don't have one, you really need to get one. 2-4mm of ankle movement can ruin your day in a 98mm boot, so make sure you properly stabilize your foot/ankle with a footbed. If your footbed is in place, then you will need to (most likely) have the shell stretched/ground in that area to make enough free space around your ankle.
To make sure what I am saying is accurate, you can do a simple shell fit at home: remove the liner from the shell, place your footbed in the shell, step in while wearing a thin ski sock, and notice where & how your medial ankle comes in contact with the shell. If there is no gap between your inner ankle and the shell, you will need to have the shell modified in this area, and that means making a visit to your boot-fitter once you are able to do so. If there is a 5mm gap, then you are probably ok and it is just a matter of the liner breaking in.
tfsh
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I will try to keep this short. I bought new boots in the summer (k2 pinnacle 110) and the soles hurt like hell. I came back from a backcountry trip and had numerous foot beds made. They all sucked and my soles killed. So I bought new boots (Lange 130) and had custom mounded foot beds made. I went out at Jackson Hole for a run or two and my feet hurt like hell. I went into the ski shop 5-6 times through the day with horrible pain, had the inserts grinded out. Nothing helps, can't ski probably half a run without feeling like someone is slicing a blade through my feet. Any help?
onenerdykid
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13586049:tfsh said:
There's a couple of things going on here. For starters, you can't go from no support (street shoes) to full customized support (ski boots + custom footbeds) without taking the time to adapt to the new support under your feet. Your feet are made up of a bunch of sticks and rubber bands, and over time certain tissues (especially the one under your foot called your plantar fascia) can become super tight. If you toss a bunch of support underneath it, your foot will freak out.
Did you wear your ski boots at home to get used the arch support? Do you wear arch support in your everyday shoes?
Without seeing your foot, it sounds like you have either a very tight plantar fascia band or you may have developed plantar fasciitis. It would be a super good idea to wear supportive footbeds in your everyday shoes and you should probably go see a pedorthist or orthopedist because this is a tell-tale-sign that you should.
13586282:onenerdykid said:
Okay just quoting this so you will see it.
So, i got to steamboat yesterday, and skied first time this season today in 2+ ft of pow with my magic j's and 2014 ft dropkicks. They always have been a little tight but just tight enough and not to the point where they caused major pain. Today however was extremely painful specfically the left foot on the outside of my foot so much that after skiing i could barely walk. Now im not sure if it was a combination of my first day back, deep pow, fat skis, etc or something is wrong. They were heat molded but no liners or anything and no i didnt go to a bootfitter when buying them. My question is should i go see a bootfitter in steamboat? Im really not looking to spend big bucks and most definately cant afford a new pair of boots. What should i do and how? Im gonna shred my park sticks tomorrow to see if that helps.
histonskiah
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Hey, I've skied park all my life cause I'm from the midwest but I just moved to Montana and my full tilt classics with an 8 flex tongue feel way too flexy and horrible skiing big mountain and I have no control. I'm still going to ski a lot of park but I want to be able to ski big mountain too. I'm thinking about buying the dalbello krypton pros 2 with a 130 flex, I've tried them on and they fit great. Im 5'10 155lbs and am wondering if this will be too stiff for me to still ski park with out a problem.
onenerdykid
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13588214:B.Quincy said:
Do you have footbeds? Are the liners heat molded?
If no to either/both of these, get them done ASAP. If the answer is yes, have your boot-fitter to a shell check for width- it's the only way to know if you will need a stretch or not.
onenerdykid
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13588746:histonskier said:
If you can flex the boot properly, then they are ok for all types of skiing.
erikskitroll
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just got new boots have riden them 3 times and when i land a little back seat my foot moves forward
onenerdykid
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13592556:erikskitroll said:
Action, Reaction
onenerdykid
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13592871:neleson said:
Foot support will not come from the boot itself, it will come from a supportive footbed (insole) that is purchased separately from the boot and ideally made to your foot's specific needs. A footbed creates the proper interface between your foot and the ski boot and without it, you will have less control, less comfort, and less performance. To get one, research in your area (or where you go skiing) who makes the best ones and take your boots there with you.
liam.haslam1
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if i have size 29.5 liners for my boots could i use size 29 instead? my boot is just a little too big for me, i get shin bang pretty bad.
onenerdykid
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13598186:liam.haslam1 said:
I already answered this in your other post, but just so other people who read this will know- no it will not work.
There is no difference between a 29.0 and 29.5 liner. What companies do in a 29.0 is put a thicker insole in or a volume shim to make it feel slightly snugger, but it is the same liner. This is more of a psychological thing in the store and it will not cause a problematic 29.5 to be fixed by going to a 29.0
The heels on my boots are definitely worn out, but I can replace those. They don't have replaceable toes though. Are these toes done? The front bottom of the lug is missing about 4mm according to the second last page ofhttp://www.rasc.ru/gear/pdf/dynastar/dynastar.race.2011.2012.pdf . The length of the worn out area front-to-back is about 5mm too long. Are those diagrams legit, or too conservative? I won't be at a good shop that might have a tool for this for a few weeks.
onenerdykid
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13603263:QuazBotch said:
I've seen worse toes, but those don't look too good... Eventually, you will need to take your boots to a shop and have them check it with the norm tool. Only the shittiest shops won't have it, so if there are a few shops around you at the moment call around and see if they have it. They'll probably even check it for free since it literally takes 30 seconds.
The dimensions of toe (and heel) lugs refer to total width, total height, thickness of lug, length of lug, and radius of lug. If any one of those is out of the norm, you could very well count on having binding release issues so don't wait too long before getting it checked.
onenerdykid
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13603244:Peter. said:
This is totally normal. However, if you generally have gaps all around your leg regardless if you are flexing or not you should have some volume reducing pads made (and put on the outside of the liner) that will take up that excess space. Gaps will lead to a lot of friction and your leg getting bruised, so these pads will help a lot with that.
Nick_77
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I got a pair of Full TIlt Booters maybe 3 years ago that I'd tried on in the shop, with help from the store owner. They fit pretty comfortably and the Shop owner said they were the right size (26.5). I've skied the past 3 seasons with these boots and have had a lot of problems with swelling, cramping, pain much worse than general soreness, and often I'd have to take off my boots for a little while in between runs. I don't complain much and try to make the best of things but this is just unbearable. Turns out I'm a size 25 for boots, not 26.5. It's not even a matter of getting new free boots or anything, but the owner blamed the mountain I skied at where they gave me insoles to try and see if it would help. the boot fitter at the shop where the boots came from has tried everything from baking the boots to putting foam fitters on the liner to take up space in the shell. Any here's what I'm getting at, will these boots ever fit comfortably or are they simply too big and I'll need to buy boots that are the right size? I've been to the boot fitter twice already and it seems like I'm running out of options.
ChachieRaybanz
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The Inside bone of my foot kills after skiing and sometimes during it. When I lift my foot it feels like the boot is pulling down on my bone. I have a pair of Lange XT100's and it is not ideal for when I am touring. I have worn them looser a couple of times and there was less pain, but still obvious. I have superfeet inside, but feet hurt after anyways.
ANDR3WNEWELL
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I have extreme pain in the middle of my chin and when I try to move it hurts and skiing is almost unbearable. I have full tilt twalls 2013-14 28.5 and the felt fine the first few days I rode them but this weekend I feel like I have really bad shinbang and it sucks cause I can't ski let alone ski to my potential. I occasionally get pain in my toes from overshooting stuff from my toe shooting up until the front of my boot. My boot is tight everywhere up until the top part of the boot right until the middle of my shin and it feels a little loose right at the top of the boot. I think because the wallischs are pretty stiff boots when my shins hit the front of the boot it's brushing my leg. Should I purchase softer tongues or booster straps to keep the liner closed to my skinny ass legs or both?
onenerdykid
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13612100:NeedPlacid said:
Your boot sounds like it is too big. Do this: take out the liner, step into the shell with a thin ski sock on, slide your toes to the front so they gently touch, and measure the space behind your heel. 1cm = race fit, 2cm is normal, 3cm is too big. What do you have?
Also, do you have a footbed? If not, then you need to get one.
onenerdykid
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13612529:soupcan said:
Are your boots new? It is common with new boots that have not broken in and/or your feet aren't used to them yet.
onenerdykid
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13613259:swisscheese said:
Is your liner damaged? Is it a new boot, old boot? Is there something in between your shell and liner that shouldn't be there?