The next Newschoolersmobile?
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IanAvery-Leaf
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can somebody on NS please please buy this thing....or we should all crowdfund it or something
this piece of freeski history cant end up in the hands of some fuckin jerry
this piece of freeski history cant end up in the hands of some fuckin jerry
jackdonovan
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13419935:ski.the.east said:
this
if everyone threw like 5 bucks in, then this could easily be bought and fixed up
Big_Mtn
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So I went and checked it out today. It started up first try and it runs well... It needed a couple minutes for the turbo to warm up but once it did it sounded great. The guy at the marine place wasn't sure if the 4wd still worked but it ran and moved. It could probably use some new tires but the ones that are on it now would work for a little while. The inside is pretty rough, but there is a phone inside. Also, you don't quite realize how high it is off the ground until you try to get in it. I found out how it ended up in Florida. The guys at the marine place were enlisted to sell it by the owner(?) of smith who drove it down there from Idaho. They didn't know exactly what his position was but they thought he was the boss. The marine place was selling it and storing it because they were getting free sunglasses. The limo has been in Florida for 8 months so far which would probably work to the advantage of whoever might buy it as far as negotiating price. It was pretty cool to see this beast in real life.
Skates_skis
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This would have been so sick at wcs 9. Mabye next year?
13422110:Big_Mtn said:So I went and checked it out today. It started up first try and it runs well... It needed a couple minutes for the turbo to warm up but once it did it sounded great. The guy at the marine place wasn't sure if the 4wd still worked but it ran and moved. It could probably use some new tires but the ones that are on it now would work for a little while. The inside is pretty rough, but there is a phone inside. Also, you don't quite realize how high it is off the ground until you try to get in it. I found out how it ended up in Florida. The guys at the marine place were enlisted to sell it by the owner(?) of smith who drove it down there from Idaho. They didn't know exactly what his position was but they thought he was the boss. The marine place was selling it and storing it because they were getting free sunglasses. The limo has been in Florida for 8 months so far which would probably work to the advantage of whoever might buy it as far as negotiating price. It was pretty cool to see this beast in real life.
Whoa holy shit.... you actually went up there huh?
So you think its solid?
jackdonovan
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13423982:Mr.Bishop said:
yes
jackdonovan
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13424030:Mr.Bishop said:
crowdfund?
Literature
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13424030:Mr.Bishop said:
We could easily crowd fund this. I think the bigger issues would be maintaining it, storing it, and how we'd use it going forward. You see potential there Bishop?
13424102:Literature said:
You're absolutely right. Storing and maintaining is a big question mark to think about. As well, in order for it to be effective we'd have to get someone to take it out of storage, a resort that is willing to build a feature around it -money to cover some gas, etc.
I suggested to Andy to use it for Tell A Friend Tour, but he's rightfully worried about reliability (have to make tour stops) and logistically it would be really difficult to get resorts to build something every time around it.
My main worry if we just hipshot bought this based off of crowdfunding would be that it'd just end up sitting somewhere with nowhere to go.
Not saying no - just trying to be a bit realistic. There's loads of awesome things we could raise money for.
Big_Mtn
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13423970:Mr.Bishop said:
Yeah the guy that showed it to me had to move it from where it was parked and it needed to be jumped. He said he charged the battery and when I was there it started right up. It was driven from Idaho all the way to Florida without an issue so there's that.
Literature
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Good points.
Such are the separation pains of the important pieces of freeskiing history. I totally understand Smith deciding to move onward. Maybe someone can rescue this, but I don't see NS being the vehicle.
Such are the separation pains of the important pieces of freeskiing history. I totally understand Smith deciding to move onward. Maybe someone can rescue this, but I don't see NS being the vehicle.
ANDR01D
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mmallender.
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13424136:Mr.Bishop said:You're absolutely right. Storing and maintaining is a big question mark to think about. As well, in order for it to be effective we'd have to get someone to take it out of storage, a resort that is willing to build a feature around it -money to cover some gas, etc.
I suggested to Andy to use it for Tell A Friend Tour, but he's rightfully worried about reliability (have to make tour stops) and logistically it would be really difficult to get resorts to build something every time around it.
My main worry if we just hipshot bought this based off of crowdfunding would be that it'd just end up sitting somewhere with nowhere to go.
Not saying no - just trying to be a bit realistic. There's loads of awesome things we could raise money for.
bring it to vancouver, ive got hookups at ford/lincoln. bam maintenance problem solved
13424159:Troy. said:
Interesting...
13424345:Literature said:
There's a lot of pieces that would have to come together for this not to suck. I'd only want to do it if we could actually activate and make this awesome. Skiing history is important, but it has to be honored not just neglected.
13424348:Han.Solo said:
You have no idea how badly I want to do something that involves RV's / Airstreams.
Ever read the article about Kamp K2? It was freaking epic.
13424391:mmallender. said:
Noted. Border and ownership becomes a challenge... but hey. Crazier things have happened.
13424688:Mr.Bishop said:
Hi, I'm Troy's agent, what can I help you with?
Troy.
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So, I worked out some math to show the feasibility of this beaut.
So, they’re asking $3200, but its been in Florida/on the market for 8 months now, which means the marine guys are probably ready to get rid of it. Most likely they’d let it go for $2000, but to be on the safe side, we’ll call it $2500. Additionally, while specific numbers on sales tax in CO are hard to nail down, sales tax for vehicles in UT (which you have to pay upon registering at DMV) is 7%. $2,500 • 0.07 = $175.
Now this thing is basically a Ford F250 plus a few feet for all intents and purposes. It has the 7.3L PowerStroke in it, which is widely regarded as one of the best diesel engines out there (easy Dodge fans, don’t get feisty with me). It was made from 1994-2003, but the trucks with these engines have a higher resale value than 2003-2007 6.0L, for a reason. It is an extended F250 or F350 chasis, with the Lincoln body on top. But, for fuel economy calculations, we’ll use conservative 1999-2000 Ford F250 numbers. According to Fuelly (http://www.fuelly.com/car/ford/f-250_super_duty) the 7.3 F250’s averaged around 13.5mpg, which the best being 15.1mpg and the worst being 13.3mpg.
From Aqua Tech Marine, in Palm Bay, FL to where I live in Fort Collins, CO is 1,965 miles. 1,965 miles ÷ 13.5 mpg = 145.56 gallons of diesel fuel. According to the US Energy Information Administration, as of 5/11/15 the average price for diesel in the US is $2.878 (http://www.eia.gov/petroleum/gasdiesel/). $2.878/gal • 145.56 gallons = $418.92 in fuel costs to drive the car from Florida back to the West, where it belongs.
Big_Mtn physically went and checked it out, and said it needed new tires. No biggie, every vehicle does. Best estimation from pictures is that the wheels are 16’s or 17’s, maybe 18’s but unlikely. Best tire for this would be the BFG All Terrain. Best all-around truck tire, its what I ran on my Tundra for a few years. For a set of BFG’s, a good estimation would be ~$800. Very soft ballpark, but a good starting point for the sake of this post.
Now gets to the shitty part: half restoring it. I spoke with the guy who owns it a few minutes ago, and while the frame is rust free, the body has a fair bit of rust. Best solution for this would be to pull all the vinyl off, either sandblast the rust spots (more time intensive, more money, and better quality), or throw bondo over rust (less time intensive, cheaper, worse quality but still good). Both options would be rhino-lined after, then vinyl wrapped on top, or the rhino-liner would be painted over with graphics/logos/etc. This is a harder number to ballpark because it mostly depends on labor costs. If we can find a NSer to help out, or other industry friend, this could be fairly inexpensive.
The cabin interior is pretty sloppy. The cheapest/best option would be to find a front bench that fits off of craigslist, which is fairly common as they used the same interior across several models for several model years. I’d expect to pay $100 at the most.
Then you have to clean up the back portion of the limo, which would most likely be just heavy duty cleaning of the carpet, and new mats perhaps. ~$50 + time.
The tint is also pretty shitty. Similar to how you mother always said that if your bed is messy, your room is messy, and if your bed is clean, the room looks clean, tint can make or break if the car looks like shit. Generally, tinting costs about $150 for a standard car, double it for the limo to hit $300 total. However, I have some friends who do tinting who *may* be able to help out, but $300 is the number I’m going with.
Additionally, it needs a new headlight assembly, which online is around $110.
Line items:
Limo itself: $2500
Sales tax: $175
Gas to Colorado: $418.92
New tires: $800
New front seat: $100
New carpet: $50
New headlight assembly: $110
Restoring body rust + graphics: unknown
Total cost back to CO and getting her ready for next season: $4,153.92
So, they’re asking $3200, but its been in Florida/on the market for 8 months now, which means the marine guys are probably ready to get rid of it. Most likely they’d let it go for $2000, but to be on the safe side, we’ll call it $2500. Additionally, while specific numbers on sales tax in CO are hard to nail down, sales tax for vehicles in UT (which you have to pay upon registering at DMV) is 7%. $2,500 • 0.07 = $175.
Now this thing is basically a Ford F250 plus a few feet for all intents and purposes. It has the 7.3L PowerStroke in it, which is widely regarded as one of the best diesel engines out there (easy Dodge fans, don’t get feisty with me). It was made from 1994-2003, but the trucks with these engines have a higher resale value than 2003-2007 6.0L, for a reason. It is an extended F250 or F350 chasis, with the Lincoln body on top. But, for fuel economy calculations, we’ll use conservative 1999-2000 Ford F250 numbers. According to Fuelly (http://www.fuelly.com/car/ford/f-250_super_duty) the 7.3 F250’s averaged around 13.5mpg, which the best being 15.1mpg and the worst being 13.3mpg.
From Aqua Tech Marine, in Palm Bay, FL to where I live in Fort Collins, CO is 1,965 miles. 1,965 miles ÷ 13.5 mpg = 145.56 gallons of diesel fuel. According to the US Energy Information Administration, as of 5/11/15 the average price for diesel in the US is $2.878 (http://www.eia.gov/petroleum/gasdiesel/). $2.878/gal • 145.56 gallons = $418.92 in fuel costs to drive the car from Florida back to the West, where it belongs.
Big_Mtn physically went and checked it out, and said it needed new tires. No biggie, every vehicle does. Best estimation from pictures is that the wheels are 16’s or 17’s, maybe 18’s but unlikely. Best tire for this would be the BFG All Terrain. Best all-around truck tire, its what I ran on my Tundra for a few years. For a set of BFG’s, a good estimation would be ~$800. Very soft ballpark, but a good starting point for the sake of this post.
Now gets to the shitty part: half restoring it. I spoke with the guy who owns it a few minutes ago, and while the frame is rust free, the body has a fair bit of rust. Best solution for this would be to pull all the vinyl off, either sandblast the rust spots (more time intensive, more money, and better quality), or throw bondo over rust (less time intensive, cheaper, worse quality but still good). Both options would be rhino-lined after, then vinyl wrapped on top, or the rhino-liner would be painted over with graphics/logos/etc. This is a harder number to ballpark because it mostly depends on labor costs. If we can find a NSer to help out, or other industry friend, this could be fairly inexpensive.
The cabin interior is pretty sloppy. The cheapest/best option would be to find a front bench that fits off of craigslist, which is fairly common as they used the same interior across several models for several model years. I’d expect to pay $100 at the most.
Then you have to clean up the back portion of the limo, which would most likely be just heavy duty cleaning of the carpet, and new mats perhaps. ~$50 + time.
The tint is also pretty shitty. Similar to how you mother always said that if your bed is messy, your room is messy, and if your bed is clean, the room looks clean, tint can make or break if the car looks like shit. Generally, tinting costs about $150 for a standard car, double it for the limo to hit $300 total. However, I have some friends who do tinting who *may* be able to help out, but $300 is the number I’m going with.
Additionally, it needs a new headlight assembly, which online is around $110.
Line items:
Limo itself: $2500
Sales tax: $175
Gas to Colorado: $418.92
New tires: $800
New front seat: $100
New carpet: $50
New headlight assembly: $110
Restoring body rust + graphics: unknown
Total cost back to CO and getting her ready for next season: $4,153.92
Troy.
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13424976:Fred_Bear said:
I have friends who are Delta kids and fly for free. We get one of them to fly out there for free, and then drive it back.
Or, Delta Buddy pass from SLC to JAX for ~$150 and then have a local friend in Jacksonville (where I grew up) give me a ride down.
Big_Mtn
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I'm not exactly sure what the guys position is at smith (or if he still work there)... But... If he is in a position of importance maybe they would be willing to trade ad space on ns and on the vehicle next season (pending further approval from Bishop of course) for the vehicle or at least a discount on the vehicle. Its a long shot but it doesn't hurt to suggest it.
Doug, just have Troy shuttle you and Travis to-and-from the Denver airport at SIA on arrival and departure days. Line it up with all your clients beforehand, and have the limo stocked with food, booze, and party treats. What better way to touch down in CO and handle your adbuy? Hell, you can even make an OTR episode out of it -- and it would allow you more time on the tradeshow floor to do your thing vs. sell ads.
Not to mention you'll be able to wave your big-limo-dick outside the Hyatt.
Not to mention you'll be able to wave your big-limo-dick outside the Hyatt.
SteezOnSkis12
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13424998:Troy. said:
This NEEDS to happen
LynxNation
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13425067:Troy. said:
I pretty sure this whole thing screams Troy. #votetroy2015
CashmereCat
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13425860:Mr.Bishop said:
I'd throw some money in, maybe have some incentive like if you give x amount you get your name on some plaque of something on the inside.
jackdonovan
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13425860:Mr.Bishop said:
13425868:Mousseau said:
this, i would definetly pitch in either way
but it could interest more people, if they throw in $10 then they can get an advertiser's product