The look of skate edits...

Bryan*

Bryan*

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i personaly am not a fan of the traditional skate edit looks. with the fisheye and the low angles.. for example.

Now what i like...the riders may not be as good but i think this filming look's a lot better.

Two days of filming over Thanksgiving break with Matt Wendt, Jeremy Madera, Adam Fillion and Henry Shaw. Filmed at, Clinton skatepark, Deep River skatepark, and Middlefield skatepark.

Filmed & Edited by George Watts

Filmed w/Canon T2i w/16-35mm 2.8 Canon lens & 50mm 1.8 Canon Lens

Color Graded w/ Magic Bullet Looks
 
i fully agree. although i know there are a lot of kids on this site who love the traditional style. it's just classic, and a lot of skaters like it a lot.

but yea i would way rather watch edits that are well filmed.

on a side note, i think another big reason why i don't like the traditional style is that it's often used to film lines, which fucking put me to sleep. i never understood why pro skaters feel the need to show us that they can tre flip on flat ground...
 
yea i mean there are huge exceptions. for example, i love watching a stevie williams, chris haslam, or brent atchley line. but most of the time, i hate lines
 
It depends. I still love that cause I grew up skateboarding as a little kid (and am still growing up as a skateboarder). It would be sick to find a ski edit with this whole style and some dinosaur jr music or something. I don't know about vx1 footy with mega vig, we could do without the vig. Well filmed edits are cool too, it's just not what I think of when I think skateboarding yet. A smooth glide cam edit with a fish or wide angle followcam of a skier doing hot laps is sick, as long as dubstep stays away and it's not 100% slowmo. Hopefully skateboarding never reaches that trend.
Totally preference, but I draw a lot of preference from skateboarding and like to imagine skiing like skateboarding. Certain skaters are just better at lines and show you something you don't see often. That's just the way it works. Some people do a tre flip and others wallie over the ledge the other guy passed on the way to the 10 stair rail. Same with skiers. Watching somebody like garrett russel or max hill ski a line is different then watching wallisch or somebody like that. Not that tom isn't creative and really good, but who is more likely to do a 450 on 450 out, and who is gonna use that feature in a way that few people do?
I'm still waiting for skiing to put some iggy pop, t rex and people like that to lines through the park filmed with go pro/fisheye follow cam or something. But proper exposure and colors would be nice, as well as stability.
 
i think at least for me lines show that the skater can not only throw the tricks, but do them consistently enough to do them a bunch of times in a row on various shit without cutting to different shots
 
If you can't understand the point of lines then you clearly don't "understand".

It takes so much more skill, creativity, and time to land a line. Finding a good spot (with multiple features) is hard in itself.

With that said, FUCK the Sony VX series and fuck the typical way of filming skateboarding.
 
dude everybody in this thread understands the point of lines, calm down bro. the OP was talking about low fisheye angles, not necessarily just in lines but just in skateboarding in general. and the only lines that i don't understand are the ones that DON'T require more creativity, time, or skill to do. if i see a skater do some cool shit on a ledge, then take like 6 pushes, then do a kickflip, then push some more, then do a handrail, i can't help but wonder why they wouldn't just show the ledge and handrail. creativity? no. skill? probably not. it's a kickflip. time? i guess, but not every line has more than one difficult trick.
probably the epitome of pointless lines in my mind was i believe nyjah huston's part in some movie. he did a shove right in the middle of his line and i just didn't get why i needed to see that
 
because theyd rather do flat tricks in between major ones than just push?

haha no hate, i understand how some people dont like it, but i wish there were MORE lines in skiing. it takes so much more talent to link tricks than to just do them 1 at a time.
 
honestly i literally give 0 fuck that they were done in combination.
i would so much rather watch big single tricks than kinda big tricks done in combination
 
its much harder to film full consecutive lines then it is to get a single good shot, being able to skate/ski/ect a fluid, technical line shows much more skill then getting a single shot off a jump over and over again
 
no shit man, that's obvious. they're just not fun for me to watch though. don't get me wrong, i FULLY understand how hard they are, but they just bore me.
it's kind of like watching skiing sometimes. i know some people get really amped over seeing unnatural spins, and i can understand how hard they are, but i would rather watch somebody doing a sick natural spin than an unnatural spin that isn't as sick.
 
that's not true at all.
i skated for a fucking long time, but i always preferred park/mini ramp skating over street skating. therefore, i didn't like watching lines most of the time.
that's like saying just because somebody doesn't like watching big mountain lines, they don't ski.
 
I hate watchin edits that are totally slow mo. Id much rather see raw, fast lines than slowed down single tricks.
 
exactly what i was going to say. when i think of skiing i think fast, raw tricks. i never got into that fully flared shit, give me a thrasher or black label vid instead. no slow mo.
 
i agree with you. i feel diagonal fisheyes look way better than vignetting fisheyes. i like to mix a diagonal fisheye with a wide angle lens in edits.
 
Fisheye's look good in certain situations, and should not be overused, and if you do use them to much it makes for a lazy filmer a very lazy one, but i guess its just a personal thing, i used to love them then i hated them and i like them in certain situations now, and fisheyes imo look horrible with vignette (fucking skaters and there omg omg minty vx1k with mk1) just my opinion, but yeah lines are sweet as long as they just arent like 4 flatground tricks then a stair set/gap/hand rail there should be atleast two features in the lines.
 
Just take a break from posting for like 12 hours. please.

On another note, I feel that there's a few things I find attrocious about skate filming

They often use shitty fisheyes that vignette

Low angles are so lousy

I rarely ever come across a skate edit with color correction

Always the same redundant angles

I feel that skating is a really cool subject to film though, I love watching skating even though I dont even skate. When a skate edit is done right, I feel that it's really something special that turns out great.
 
whenever i see this thread, this comes to mind.
and by this thread i mean the billionth fucking time this topic has been posted and discussed.

 
widelyfe!

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Here is a skate video I put together..not a real big fan on the fisheye either. This is my first skate edit so let me know what you think.

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I like the feel of this because it has good use of traditional fisheye shots mixed in with shots that are more natural looking.
 
will start, i respect you and your work but you're making yourself sound like an idiot in here.

It's basically like if someone skiing does a nosetap on a rainbow rail, and then cork 5 on a jump, and then on the next jump switch double flip, a lot of times, movies will leave those three shots together in one clip to show the technicality, and difficulty because you have to land three hard tricks instead of one. Then worry about the next, then worry about the next.
 
No, I'm not. I'm stating my own opinion, which happens to be different than yours.

And what point are you trying to make with that explanation? I stated multiple times that I fully understand the technicality and difficulty of lines; I never denied that. And I also understand why some people choose to show the whole line (when it's legit). I'm just saying that for me, I care much, much more about the filming and the way the sport is portrayed than specific tricks. Especially when the rider does one big trick, then has to skate a long way, maybe does a kickflip, then eventually does another big trick. Even though it's a line, I'd rather just see the two big ones separately and skip the shit in the middle. Especially because if the two big ones are filmed separately, chances are the shot will be waaaay sicker. Lines almost always lead to more mediocre filming.

Take the movie Life Cycles for example. I'm sure you are familiar with it, but if you're not look it up. There are basically two types of people who watch Life Cycles: 1. Those who appreciate the way the sport is portrayed and love the way it explored the nuances of mountain biking, and 2. Those who expected a banger mountain bike movie (in terms of the riding itself) and were disappointed by the lack of next level riding. Neither is wrong, (although I am type 1), just different.

Just because you appreciate videos mostly for good riding doesn't mean i can't appreciate them mostly for good filmmaking, even if it is at the cost of showing an entire line.
 
Here's a better way of what I'm trying to say:

I care much more about watching the way the filmmaker views the sport and chooses to portray it. This is why I don't care about tricks, and it is also why I don't care about lines (because they often make it harder for the filmmaker to use his own unique vision).

Others are more concerned with the riding itself, and if the filming is more meh in order to show something sick, it's worth it. I don't feel that way, but it's not like I think that's an incorrect way to feel.
 
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