The Future is Lab Grown Meat and that's a Good Thing

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^ ^ ^ Lab grown chicken but better for the planet.

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Stop overfishing idiots, lab-grown cultivated fish. It tastes jsut like fish from the sea. Stop killing fish and stand up for the planet.No more cold chain logistical nightmares for meat transport, with new tech from Hong Kong company.

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Had one of those impossible burgers from burger king once. It's impressive it tastes just like a burger king burger, the only downside is that it tastes just like a burger king burger
 
Is it more sustainable than the regenerative agriculture model? I don't doubt that it's better than current farming norms, but I find it hard to believe that this is the answer.
 
14218486:TOAST. said:
Is it more sustainable than the regenerative agriculture model? I don't doubt that it's better than current farming norms, but I find it hard to believe that this is the answer.
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Regenerative agriculture isn't sustainable at all. It can only offset 20-60% of emissions that those same animals produce in the first place.
 
14218667:Biffbarf said:
Fun fact- per unit use of consumption weed in colorado has a higher carbon footprint than beef.
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Thats because you need a 1000W HPS light per 10 plants or so. They just need to let the growers grow under the sun, which is free.
 
14218663:sqeellicbic said:
Regenerative agriculture isn't sustainable at all. It can only offset 20-60% of emissions that those same animals produce in the first place.
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I mean a decrease is a decrease, especially 60%. This lab grown meet is emmision free? Sure the best thing the human race could do for our planet is to stop existing, but until then we are going to create some emissions in order to eat.

What is your solution? I'm willing to look into anything, but from the small amount I have read regenerative seems pretty good and at least it's an improvement.
 
14218832:TOAST. said:
I mean a decrease is a decrease, especially 60%. This lab grown meet is emmision free? Sure the best thing the human race could do for our planet is to stop existing, but until then we are going to create some emissions in order to eat.

What is your solution? I'm willing to look into anything, but from the small amount I have read regenerative seems pretty good and at least it's an improvement.
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I mean that it only offsets 60% of the emissions that the grazing animals produce in the first place, not 60% extra. So grazing still adds carbon. And as of right now, we have no idea what the emissions of lab grown meat are gonna be but the number one thing you can do to help the environment is go vegan. Giving up animal products saves more carbon than giving up your car.

It's time that we address the fact that what we do to animals is destroying us. Whether it be pandemics or climate change, animal exploitation does not end happily for us humans.
 
14218837:sqeellicbic said:
I mean that it only offsets 60% of the emissions that the grazing animals produce in the first place, not 60% extra. So grazing still adds carbon. And as of right now, we have no idea what the emissions of lab grown meat are gonna be but the number one thing you can do to help the environment is go vegan. Giving up animal products saves more carbon than giving up your car.

It's time that we address the fact that what we do to animals is destroying us. Whether it be pandemics or climate change, animal exploitation does not end happily for us humans.
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Crops still need fertilized. I would think the best way to do that would be to use animals. Chickens can help control pests. My wife is vegan and I cant imagine that shipping in veggies from across the country/from other countries can be too sustainable. If you eat only local veggies I agree, but you still need animals to fertilize (can composting be done on a large enough scale?) so why not eat them once in a while or use them for other products.
 
14218843:TOAST. said:
Crops still need fertilized. I would think the best way to do that would be to use animals. Chickens can help control pests. My wife is vegan and I cant imagine that shipping in veggies from across the country/from other countries can be too sustainable. If you eat only local veggies I agree, but you still need animals to fertilize (can composting be done on a large enough scale?) so why not eat them once in a while or use them for other products.
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Yes there is enough plant based fertilizer. A vegan diet requires 1/16th of the land that an omnivorous diet requires. So not only are we capable of producing the fertilizer, but the quantity needed drastically decreases which makes it more doable.

As for eating animal products "once in a while," it is fine if your only goal is protecting the environment but it's not fine for preventing pandemics nor is it moral.

But yeah you are right that shipping food is a big source of carbon, but if the world went vegan then its still a huge net decrease in emissions.
 
Food is expensive, and kind of a pain in the ass to acquire, prepare, etc. Plus you gotta try and eat well it’s this whole other thing it’s just a lot of effort when it’s all said and done.

Sometimes I think it would be nice to just put 2 cups of kibble in my bowl and be done with it. This seems like it’s going that direction. In the future they claimed we’d all just have a pill for every meal. Well we got the pills part down and gave up on that dream.
 
14219038:Casey said:
Food is expensive, and kind of a pain in the ass to acquire, prepare, etc. Plus you gotta try and eat well it’s this whole other thing it’s just a lot of effort when it’s all said and done.

Sometimes I think it would be nice to just put 2 cups of kibble in my bowl and be done with it. This seems like it’s going that direction. In the future they claimed we’d all just have a pill for every meal. Well we got the pills part down and gave up on that dream.
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What did dogs eat before kibble?
 
idk bro the meat looks fine to me. as long as it tastes good and doesn't wreck the environment i'm fine with it, but I need meat
 
If it costs the same and tastes the same then I'm all about it. I don't particularly enjoy the mass killing of animals part of the meat industry. I think if this becomes a bigger thing then people should either go with it or kill and butcher the animals they eat themselves. Factory farms aren't natural and they aren't sustainable.
 
14222867:slitherysnake531 said:
idk bro the meat looks fine to me. as long as it tastes good and doesn't wreck the environment i'm fine with it, but I need meat
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Let's be honest though. It's going to be full of chemicals. Hopefully, the small organic sustainable farms stay open although talking to farmers they say they are suffering presently.
 
14222876:qazwsxedc34 said:
Let's be honest though. It's going to be full of chemicals. Hopefully, the small organic sustainable farms stay open although talking to farmers they say they are suffering presently.
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yeah if it's all chemical-y then I don't want any part of it, but if it is like what the articles are saying then I'm down for it
 
14218657:sqeellicbic said:
Animal exploitation is the biggest tragedy this planet has ever seen

bring on the downvotes or try to change my mind
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There is a difference between sustainable farming and killing of animals in human ways than factory farming fast food meat where the cows shit on other cows and are pumped with chemicals and then are thrown in a meat grinder whole.

Eskimos can surely plant a bunch of lettuce in the arctic and survive of of it. No need to stab seals with spears.
 
14222880:qazwsxedc34 said:
There is a difference between sustainable farming and killing of animals in human ways than factory farming fast food meat where the cows shit on other cows and are pumped with chemicals and then are thrown in a meat grinder whole.

Eskimos can surely plant a bunch of lettuce in the arctic and survive of of it. No need to stab seals with spears.
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There's no such thing as "humane killing" brotha
https://thevegancalculator.com/animal-slaughter/

Click the link, that's why I say it's the biggest tragedy this planet has ever seen. It's unfathomable.
 
14222923:sqeellicbic said:
There's no such thing as "humane killing" brotha
https://thevegancalculator.com/animal-slaughter/

Click the link, that's why I say it's the biggest tragedy this planet has ever seen. It's unfathomable.
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God has told us we can eat meat. Jesus did not refuse any meal he was given. Try living self-sustaining and you'll see you need to hunt and you'll probably need a chicken coup as well. At least we aren't paying factory farms to do the killing for us. There are non-painful ways to kill animals.

I'm all, however, for less meat consumption!
 
14222880:qazwsxedc34 said:
Eskimos can surely plant a bunch of lettuce in the arctic and survive of of it.
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False. Have you been to northern/western Alaska?

We harvest nearly all of the protein that we eat through hunting and fishing. Neither veganism nor lab-grown meat is in my future.
 
Meh, it’s a thing to discuss here. For example, I agree with the vegan politics, but I don’t really like how they are trying to make us all vegans. I mean, all those ads and Instagram posts, all about we are killing cows, but cows are our friends. Well, if you want to be a vegan, be, but it doesn’t mean that you have to make me vegan. For example, I would kill a man for some good beef jerkyhttps://www.bigwigjerky.com.au and that’s it, that is me and that is what I like. I will never appreciate lab meat, sorry, that is who I am!
 
14302508:nashandra said:
Meh, it’s a thing to discuss here. For example, I agree with the vegan politics, but I don’t really like how they are trying to make us all vegans. I mean, all those ads and Instagram posts, all about we are killing cows, but cows are our friends. Well, if you want to be a vegan, be, but it doesn’t mean that you have to make me vegan. For example, I would kill a man for some good beef jerkyhttps://www.bigwigjerky.com.au and that’s it, that is me and that is what I like. I will never appreciate lab meat, sorry, that is who I am!
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Ok I know this is a bot but this argument is so fucking stupid. Technically everything is a personal choice, but if you’re killing somebody and I try to stop you that doesn’t make me a pushy asshole.
 
14302529:EdensDemise said:
Lab grown meat might be better for the environment but it still isn’t ethical. Just eat some fucking vegetables
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How is lab grown meat not ethical? There’s no way growing food in a lab is less ethical than killing animals, polluting the environment and wasting space and resources
 
14302536:asparagus said:
How is lab grown meat not ethical? There’s no way growing food in a lab is less ethical than killing animals, polluting the environment and wasting space and resources
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With the technology we currently have, you still need to kill animals for lab grown meat, just less of them. Yeah it’s better than “real” meat, but why choose a better option when we have a good option?
 
14302539:EdensDemise said:
With the technology we currently have, you still need to kill animals for lab grown meat, just less of them. Yeah it’s better than “real” meat, but why choose a better option when we have a good option?
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na. you can extract muscle tissue from living animals. we do it with people all the time.
 
14302508:nashandra said:
Meh, it’s a thing to discuss here. For example, I agree with the vegan politics, but I don’t really like how they are trying to make us all vegans. I mean, all those ads and Instagram posts, all about we are killing cows, but cows are our friends. Well, if you want to be a vegan, be, but it doesn’t mean that you have to make me vegan. For example, I would kill a man for some good beef jerkyhttps://www.bigwigjerky.com.au and that’s it, that is me and that is what I like. I will never appreciate lab meat, sorry, that is who I am!
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weirdest fucking beef jerky plug I think i've ever come across lmfao

this made me laugh, good bot.
 
14224113:Sdot. said:
False. Have you been to northern/western Alaska?

We harvest nearly all of the protein that we eat through hunting and fishing. Neither veganism nor lab-grown meat is in my future.
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That's only your choice tho. We've evolved and developed our supply chain to a point where you can get any food you want pretty much anywhere on the planet. You don't have to hunt or fish, you can eat whatever you want, you can be a vegan if you want and still get the proteins needed for healthy diet, that's the beauty of living in our (western) day and age. You seem to imply that "neither veganism nor lab-grown meat is in your future" because of you live in AK and that you have to hunt and fish to get your proteins, but you don't have to, you simply chose to.

More generally on this topic, people don't seem to realize that any innovation has to go through the steps, lab-grown meat is still in the infancy stages, as this industry develops, so will its quality and efficiency. So if lab-grown gets to a point where it's more efficient to produce, similar in taste, widely available while being animal-friendly, I mean it just becomes a no brainer, why wouldn't you eat it then?

Same reasoning with electric vehicles, goal is to get that to a point where it's as efficient to produce, similar in performance while being cheaper and more eco-friendly to run. I mean it will just be a no-brainer for everyone.

I'm all for innovation in general, but even more so in the face of our climate crisis, this isn't a luxury, we need to change, and I'm personally excited to see people coming up with these ideas.
 
14302552:Monsieur_Patate said:
That's only your choice tho. We've evolved and developed our supply chain to a point where you can get any food you want pretty much anywhere on the planet. You don't have to hunt or fish, you can eat whatever you want, you can be a vegan if you want and still get the proteins needed for healthy diet, that's the beauty of living in our (western) day and age. You seem to imply that "neither veganism nor lab-grown meat is in your future" because of you live in AK and that you have to hunt and fish to get your proteins, but you don't have to, you simply chose to.

More generally on this topic, people don't seem to realize that any innovation has to go through the steps, lab-grown meat is still in the infancy stages, as this industry develops, so will its quality and efficiency. So if lab-grown gets to a point where it's more efficient to produce, similar in taste, widely available while being animal-friendly, I mean it just becomes a no brainer, why wouldn't you eat it then?

Same reasoning with electric vehicles, goal is to get that to a point where it's as efficient to produce, similar in performance while being cheaper and more eco-friendly to run. I mean it will just be a no-brainer for everyone.

I'm all for innovation in general, but even more so in the face of our climate crisis, this isn't a luxury, we need to change, and I'm personally excited to see people coming up with these ideas.
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Uhhhhh, you're greatly overestimating the nutritional choices those who live in northern or western Alaska have.
 
Thought this was an [tag=129479]@X_ANKILLA[/tag] post for a minute. But then I realized he’s smart enough to not eat lab grown meat.
 
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