Tar/Oil Sands! Sooo fucked!

skisebski

skisebski

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http://travelingalberta.com/

Check this out website, its a mock travel website devoted to showing everybody the state in which alberta is in the tar sands Please take a quick look and tell a friend. Pretty fucked up shit

What comes to mind when you think about Alberta, Canada? Vast forests

and wilderness, towering mountains and ski hills, rodeos and cowboys?

That might have been true once, but not any more. Alberta is now home

to the largest and most environmentally destructive project on the

planet, as revealed in a new site dedicated to dispelling Alberta's

clean image.

Traveling Alberta (www.travelingalberta.com) is a mock travel site

that pulls back the curtain on tar sands development and shows the

world what the province is desperately trying to hide: pools of toxic,

deadly water It tells the real story of what travelers will find in

Alberta: massive CO2 emissions, toxic water and the planet's dirtiest

oil.

But waging a battle against Big Oil and exposing the world's largest

and most toxic industrial project is no small task, and we need your

help. We need you to VISIT THE SITE, to TELL YOUR FRIENDS and to

SPREAD THE WORD. We need to get our message to the Canadian and

Albertan governments that the world will not accept dirty oil

extracted at the risk of environmental, social and economic health.

And we need to do it now.

The tar sands are the dirtiest source of oil known to man. Unlike

conventional oil operations, the tar sands are extracted by building

huge strip mines or deep in-situ wells. While the rest of the planet

is finding solutions to decrease their carbon footprint, Alberta is

making ours bigger. Already, greenhouse gases from the tar sands are

roughly equal to the emissions of all the cars on the road today in

Canada. And they're growing.

Water used from the tar sands is so contaminated with toxic chemicals

it must be stored in huge "tailings ponds" that are visible from outer

space. A city of two million people uses an amount of water equivalent

to the tar sands annually. And just this past week, about 500 birds

perished after they came in contact with the toxic water. They are

typically scared away by air cannons!

More than 147,000 square kilometers – an area the size of Florida – is

at risk to tar sands development. Yet instead of slowing down

development, this government has approved every single tar sands

proposal that has come across its desk.

This is the dirty image Alberta's Premier will try to address as he

travels throughout the United States and Europe, spending $25 million

dollars to beautify Alberta's image. We need your help to send a clear

message to Premier Ed Stelmach: Stop the Tar Sands and clean up your

own backyard.

If you want to tell the Premier and Prime Minister Stephen Harper that

it doesn't have to be this way. If you want to tell them to clean up

their act and make Alberta a great place to visit again. If you want

to have your voice heard as loud as big oil companies who are

destroying the environment, visit www.travelingalberta.com and tell a

friend.
 
i disagree. i live in alberta and its really nice here. you'll never see any of these oil sand project things. there all in remote area. they are also a great source for everything. we give power to the rest of the world. if the oil sands stopped for something like this video thousands of people would be put out of the job. Canada would be alot poorer than it is right now. if you live here you would know that all that crap is north and to find a nice place to visit just go to the mountains at the west side. there is plenty of nice places here.
 
Out of sight, out of mind eh...I bet the people up in the Nortwhwest territories have a different opinion on this since all the resulting leakages and bad water flow north...
 
That is the biggest load of bull I have ever seen. That is a picture of a mining operation. That is how it is going to look. There is no such things as contamination ponds. They uses heater treaters and other methods to separate the oil. Canada has very stringent environmental policies.

Whatever its not worth arguing nothing like that is happening it is anti oil propaganda.

I think mining engineers say it best. "Stop strip mining, let the bastards freeze in the dark."

Tar sands need to be developed there is 300 billion barrels there. Don't buy into this crap not true.
 
from what i understand, the process is not profitable in the least. it costs more to remove the oil from the sand than it does to actually sell it... but maybe i just read some shit wrong...
 
With the prices of oil today maybe. The huge profits are mostly results from government subsidies. I do not know the specifics of the costs and profits, but even though technology to extract oil from the oil sands is getting better and better, it is VASTLY more expensive to extract than the price of a barrel of oil I bet. But, if the government did not spend money on extraction and subsidized the oil sands projects, the damage done to an oil starved economy would be way more costy than the subsidy and tax break the companies receive
 
Sometime its just better to think logical:

No, no it doesnt cost more to produce a barrel of oil from the oil sands than it is worth... How would that even make sense? Why would companies continue to invest and put massive resources and expansion into the projects involving oil sands? Its basically profitable at something around 70 dollar per barrel as it currently is.

Secondly, did you even for a second research this at all before saying something? It took about 10 secs to find articles and info on the internet that explains the profitability of oil sands. Here is one:http://www.counterpunch.org/holt02042006.html

Now on the topic of further logical thinking:

Who uses the most oil in the world, still has some the cheapest prices for gas, yet complains about gas prices the most? Well some of that may be subjective but the answer isn't that hard regardless, so I won't even say. Yet now the mayors of major cities of said country are getting together and calling for the ban of oil usage from the oil sands... Well I hope they happen to know where they can find another Saudia Arabias worth of conventional oil lying around. Idiots.

Of course it isnt the cleanest of industries, but the world demands it, Alberta provides it. Point your fingers at yourselves first. I personally would like to see development slow down up there and get industry practices down right, but that has to come from Alberta, not what a bunch of hypocrites think.

 
you would be betting incorrectly. The difficulty of oil or tar sands is offset by its porosity and density. Especially near surface where horizontal injection isn't necessary.

I read an spe paper a while back and oil sand production has positive ROR at 55 dollars a barrel.

There are other projects like the oil shales that are not quite there yet but they are getting there at about 98 dollars a barrel is what shell says they can produce oil shales in the peonce basin. So I assume that is pretty typical.
 
speakin of this subject the rocky mountains supposably have more oil in them than saudia arabia.... its just that its in the rocks and is in solid form.... idk if its true or not i just remember seeing it somewhere...
 
green peace created that website and wrote that long paragraph. i just wanted to evoke some discussion and see what other people had to say....
 
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