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Ok, is it just me or is every single post with the presidents name in it slanderous and thouroughly negative? I think that just what we need is a good old fashioned SUPPORT our leader thread. People have begun asking way to much of what the country can do FOR them, while forgeting that even more important is what THEY CAN DO FOR the country. You say that Bush was wrong in attacking Iraq? I will admit that the information which was used to justify the invasion was faulty regarding WMD, but honestly, unless you are a secular member of islamic jihad you must admit that the removal from power of Saddam Hussein- one who i have no problem grouping with Hitler and Stalin although thankfully never unleashed to the extent that they were- is a justified both strategically and morally as correct. Although i havent heard it from those of you on this site, there is the rising issue of our troops in Iraq. Every fucking day, you hear some whiny little bitch calling for our troops to be removed from Iraq and brought home. Just a question for said whiny little bitch... Who is going to take over? Certainly not the French, Russians or Germans. But what about the UN? O yeah, the UN, their peacekeepers have sure been effective for them in the past. And since you want all our troops at home, i guess this means that we will have to refuse a UN request for our troops to take the leading role (again) as peacekeepers, something which we are already doing. And then you go ahead and cry about the economy. Sorry folks, but guess what? 9/11 is still fresh in everyones mind, especially investors and that apprehension wont be going away any time soon. The one area where i am forced to agree with you all is the environment. Bush's decisions have been some of the dumbest and most environmentally harming in a long time by am american president. And for this reason and since i am a skier who enjoys my mountain air mountainy, i must agree that his allowing plants to emit more gasses and other such legislature is complete bullshit. But please do not fail to see that your country should be more dear to your heart than the fucking rabbits in the meadow. Thanks and remember, DO something, dont just expect the government to do everything for you, that system went the way of the cold war

If you have a 1380 SAT and a 86.71 GPA... what does everyone say? Not good job, not 'O wow, thats awesome!' No, they say things like 'You are an underachiever'

Originally posted by strode420

'it was impressive, sort of like a gay dude taking a cock that's too big for him without screaming'

 
how is having 1380 and 86 gpa underacheiving... cause that sounds about like me... anyway. heres the plan ive heard: troops come home in october of next year, replaced by new iraqi government. why october? because thats right before elections and itll make bush look better. straight from the press from the mouth of the guy whos taking over.

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yes, i do hate how politics impact the decisions of our leaders, because i think most people have come to the realization that Iraq will not be ready for self governance (no ones fault) by october. But think of it this way, if it had been Al Gore, Osama and the taliban would still be in control of afganistan, terrorism threats would be higher than ever and Saddam would be pursueing WMD

If you have a 1380 SAT and a 86.71 GPA... what does everyone say? Not good job, not 'O wow, thats awesome!' No, they say things like 'You are an underachiever'

Originally posted by strode420

'it was impressive, sort of like a gay dude taking a cock that's too big for him without screaming'

 
if you really support bush why dont you go to Iraq and show it, pussy.

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^ ur a dumbass...if u really dont support bush, then u go and show it...not just anybody goes dipshit...if your talking about showing it by joining the marines that is...hes taking the troops out anyway in about 7 months

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American troops aren't coming home anytime soon. All they've done is make things worse there. Somebody should tell them they are peacekeeping now, not killing innocent Iraqis.

 
WOW! that was a load of pretentious BULLSHIT!

you were forced into agreeing with liberal beliefs??? sounds to me as if you have a problem with these people and your disagreeing with them coz you dont want to be seen as a 'hippy' or a 'tree hugging vege freak'. FUCK UP AND as everyone else is saying on this site THINK FOR YOURSELF.

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^^ and how the hell do u know that they are just killing random people? i think they would know that they are peacekeeping...and yes, in about 7 months, the majority of them are coming home...some obviously staying to keep things straight

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maybe i'm completely missing something, but how can you be a secular member of islamic jihad?

dude, one time, I snorted ketchup off of a pizza. that sucked.

Oh yeah, republicans suck, you right winged conservative bastards, have fun burning in hell!!!!
 
Support Bush?.......Let him get himself a jockstrap.......actually he prob doesn't have any balls to support....

Also don't expect the troops to be leaving Iraq anytime soon....they'll be there for the long time......

*******there has already been more american troops killed in the first 7 months in Iraq than were killed in the first 3 YEARS of the Veitnam War*****

 
I think its very good that every post here is slanderous and thouroughly negative against Bush. It shows me that the younger generations understand that what our government is doing is absolutely wrong. You will never be able to justify what he is doing as a right thing. Bush and all the people around him are just looking for power on every level. Think about it. Bush is just the puppet or a spokesman for all the people around him like Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfield. Why does Bush want to do the things he does? Why does he want to impliment what he said in a speech as a Total Democratic Revolution. Its his idea of putting Democracy in all countries. How is that not the same as communism? He talks about the US as being the last and only peaceful nation, why is he so quick to send 80 guided missles into Baghdad. Thats a pretty insane way of making peace being a peaceful nation

 
It's not so much that noone posts anything positive about him, but more so that those who are against it scream the loudest. While to Crankskimafia it may show how great of an understanding the younger generation has, to me it shows how misinformed they are. Honestly, how many of these rants have convinced anyone to think differently? All this hate without any believable explanations. It's great to be passionate about government, I encourage more people to get involved and to get informed, but know both sides of the story. Approach this topic rationally and think for yourself. Do you really think everyone in the government could've allowed things to go this far if they didn't agree with it? Allright, as the person above me said - Maybe this is a whole power issue. Could it be that a majority of the houses and the thousands of other people it takes to initiate a war, be involved in a conspiracy for more power? Possible, but I doubt it. Another thing, the military has authorities to answer to. Do you really think they'd place themselves into a huge fiasco by killing innocent people?

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all of whatg bush has done (Iraq and mabey afgan a little) will just create more terrorests and people that hate us in the long run. it is no ones job to control the world but Bush thinks it is his/americas. there are better ways to take care of such problems such as the ones Bush and America have faced in recent years.

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you or america or anyone else can't elimnate e veryone that dissagres/doesn't like you. so insted it is better to try to CHANGE so that whoever doesn't like you, begins to like you (or atleast not mind you)

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Read this and make your own conclusions

The Relevance of Yesterday's US Hypocrisy Today

by ELSON E. BOLES

You may feel disgusted by the hypocrisy of US plans to make war on Iraq and sickened at the inevitable slaughter of thousands of people. But if you could only vaguely recall the details of how deep the hypocrisy goes, then read on.

The US not only helped arm Iraq with military equipment right up to the time of the Kuwait invasion in 1989, as did Germany, Britain, France, Russia and others, but also sold and helped Iraq to integrate chemical weapons into their US-provided battle plans while fighting Iran between 1985-1988.

According to a New York Times article in August, 2002, Col. Walter P. Lang, a senior defense intelligence officer at the time, explained that D.I.A. and C.I.A. officials 'were desperate to make sure that Iraq did not lose' to Iran. 'The use of gas on the battlefield by the Iraqis was not a matter of deep strategic concern,' he said. One veteran said, that the Pentagon 'wasn't so horrified by Iraq's use of gas.' 'It was just another way of killing people _ whether with a bullet or phosgene, it didn't make any difference.'

Now consider just how deceptive the recent comments from the White House are. In late September spokesman Ari Fleischer said that British Prime Minister Blair's dossier of evidence is 'frightening in terms of Iraq's intentions and abilities to acquire weapons.' A few days later, while making his case against Saddam, President Bush said 'He's used poison gas on his own people.' Bush deceives because he hides the fact that US officials, including his father, had no qualms about helping Saddam gas Iranians. What is truly frightening are the US policies toward Iraq, the cover ups of those policies, and the US officials who personally profit in the millions of dollars from those policies. To whatever degree Saddam is a tyrant, he would not be that without the US government.

The question is not whether Saddam is willing to use chemical or other weapons of mass destruction again. The question is whether the US is currently selling and helping countries use weapons of mass destruction.

Details about Iraq killing Iranians with US-supplied chemical and biological weapons significantly deepens our understanding of the current hypocrisy. It began with 'Iraq-gate' -- when US policy makers, financiers, arms-suppliers and makers, made massive profits from sales to Iraq of myriad chemical, biological, conventional weapons, and the equipment to make nuclear weapons. Reporter Russ Baker noted, for example, that, 'on July 3, 1991, the Financial Times reported that a Florida company run by an Iraqi national had produced cyanide -- some of which went to Iraq for use in chemical weapons -- and had shipped it via a CIA contractor.' This was just the tip of a mountain of scandals.

A major break in uncovering Iraqgate began with a riveting 1990 Nightline episode which revealed that top officials of the Reagan administration, the State Department, the Pentagon, C.I.A., and D.I.A., collectively engaged in a massive cover up of the USS Vincennes' whereabouts and actions when it shot down an Iranian airliner in 1987 killing over 200 civilians. The 'massive cover up' Koppel explained, was designed to hide the US secret war against Iran, in which, among other actions, US Special Operations troops and Navy SEALS sunk half of Iran's navy while giving battle plans and logistical information to Iraqi ground forces in a coordinated offensive.

In continuing the probe, as Koppel explained in June, 1990, 'It is becoming increasingly clear that George Bush Sr., operating largely behind the scenes throughout the 1980s, initiated and supported much of the financing, intelligence, and military help that built Saddam's Iraq into the aggressive power that the United States ultimately had to destroy.'

A PBS Frontline episode, 'The Arming of Iraq' (1990) detailed much of the conventional and so-called 'dual-use' weapons sold to Iraq. The public learned from other sources that at least since mid-1980s the US was selling chemical and biological material for weapons to Iraq and orchestrating private sales. These sales began soon after current Secretary of State, Donald Rumsfeld traveled to Baghdad in 1985 and met with Saddam Hussein as a private businessman on behalf of the Reagan administration. In the last major battle of the Iran-Iraq war, some 65,000 Iranians were killed, many by gas.

Investigators turned up new scandals, including the involvement of Banca Nazionale del Lavoro (BNL), the giant Italian bank, and many of the very same circles of arms suppliers, covert operators, and policy makers in and out of the US government and active in those roles for years. The National Security Council, CIA and other US agencies tacitly approved about $4 billion in unreported loans to Iraq through the giant Italian bank's Atlanta branch. Iraq, with the blessing and official approval of the US government, purchased computer controlled machine tools, computers, scientific instruments, special alloy steel and aluminum, chemicals, and other industrial goods for Iraq's missile, chemical, biological and nuclear weapons programs.

However, the early reports on BNL's activities and the startling revelations that the US government astonishingly knew that BNL was financing billions of dollars of purchases illegally, were rather comical in view of later revelations regarding who was involved. US government officials didn't just know and approve, but some were employees at BNL directly or indirectly. It was Representative Henry Gonzalez (D-Texas) who relentlessly brought key information into the Congressional Record (despite stern warnings by the State Department to stop his personal investigation for the sake of 'national security').

Gonzalas revealed, for example, that Brent Scowcroft served as Vice Chairman of Kissinger Associates until being appointed as National Security Advisor to President Bush in January 1989. As Gonzalez reported, 'Until October 4,1990, Mr. Scowcroft owned stock in approximately 40 U.S. corporations, many of which were doing busies in Iraq.' Scowcroft's stock included that in Halliburton Oil, also doing business in Iraq at the time, which had also been run by current Vice President Dick Cheney for a time. Recall that this year President George Bush Sr. faced suspicion of insider trading in relation to selling his stock in Halliburton. The companies that Scowcroft owned stock in, according to Gonzalez, 'received more than one out of every eight U.S. export licenses for exports to Iraq. Several of the companies were also clients of Kissinger Associates while Mr. Scowcroft was Vice Chairman of that firm.' Thus, Kissinger Associates helped US companies obtain US export licenses with BNL-finance so Iraq could purchase US weapons and materials for its weapons programs.

Many US business-men and officials made handsome profits. This included Henry Kissinger, the former Secretary of State under Richard Nixon, who was an employee of BNL while BNL was simultaneously a paying client of Kissinger Associates. Gonzalez reported that Mr. Alan Stoga, a Kissinger Associates executive, met in June 1989 Mr. Saddam Hussein in Baghdad. 'Many Kissinger Associates clients received US export licenses for exports to Iraq. Several were also the beneficiaries of BNL loans to Iraq,' said Mr. Gonzalez. Kissinger admitted that 'it is possible that somebody may have advised a client on how to get a license.'

Perhaps the most bizarre revelations about the involvement of former US officials concerned a Washington-based enterprise called 'Global Research' which played a middleman role in selling uniforms to Iraq. It was run by, none other than Spiro Agnew (Nixon's former VP who resigned to avoid bribery and tax evasion charges), John Mitchell (Nixon's chief of staff and Watergate organizer), and Richard Nixon himself. In the mid-1980s, more than a decade after Watergate, Nixon wrote a cozy letter to former dictator and friend Nicolae Ceausescu to close the deal. Global Research, incidentally, swindled the Iraqis, who thought they were getting US-made uniforms for desert conditions. Instead they received, and discarded, the winter uniforms from Romania.

By late 1992, the sales of chemical and biological weapons were revealed. Congressional Records of Senator Riegle's investigation of the Gulf War Syndrome show that that the US government approved sales of large varieties of chemical and biological materials to Iraq. These included anthrax, components of mustard gas, botulinum toxins (which causes paralysis of the muscles involving swallowing and is often fatal), histoplasma capsulatum (which may cause pneumonia, enlargement of the liver and spleen, anemia, acute inflammatory skin disease marked by tender red nodules), and a host of other nasty chemicals materials.

To top it all off, there is the question as to whether Iraq's invasion of Kuwait was a set up. Evidence indicates that the US knew of Iraq's plans -- after all, the military and intelligence agencies of the two countries were working very closely. Newspaper reports about the infamous meeting between then-Ambassador Glaspie and Iraq officials, and a special ABC report in the series 'A Line in the Sand,' indicated that, although the US officials told Iraq that it disapproved, they indicated that the US would not interfere.

Bear in mind the attitude of the US policy makers not only regarding Iraq's use of gas against Iranians, but in general. Richard Armatige, then Asst. Sec. of Defense for International Security Affairs and now Deputy Secretary of State, said with a hint of pride in his voice that the US 'was playing one wolf off another wolf' in pursuing our so-called national interest. This kind of cool machismo resembled the pride that Oliver North verbalized with a grin during the Iran-Contra hearings as 'a right idea' with regard to using the Ayatollah's money to fund the Contras. The setting up of Iraq thus would be very consistent with the goals and the character of US foreign policy in the Middle East: to control the region's states either for US oil companies or as bargaining chips in deals with other strong countries, and to profit by selling massive quantities of weapons to states that will war with or deter those states that oppose US 'interests.'

The problem that Armatige refers to was the fact that by 1990, the US and allied arming of Iraq had given Iraq a decisive military edge over Iran, which upset the regional 'balance.' The thinking among the US hawks was Iraq's military needed to somehow be returned to its 1980 level. An invasion of Kuwait would enable the US to do that.

But initially many arms suppliers opposed the war on Iraq because they had been making huge profits from arms sales to Saddam's regime during the 1980s. Indeed, one US official interviewed expressed his disappointment with Iraq's invasion and the subsequent Gulf War because the relationship with Iraq could have continued to be 'very profit...uh mutually profitable.'

Bush Sr. and others expected that after the war, Saddam would capitulate to US designs on the region. With a heeled Saddam, the interests of arms suppliers, defense contractors, and the many US oil corporations could be renewed. Iraqi would have to re-arm itself and invest in oil drilling and processing facilities that were destroyed by US forces. And to pay for all that, Iraq would have to sell oil cheap, which served the interests both of the giant oil corporations and the American public who had begun buying GM SUVs en masse. It would be good for US business.

The invasion today is, above all, to renew US firm's access to Iraqi oil. As reported recently in the New York Times, former CIA director R. James Woolsey, who has been one of the leading advocates of forcing Hussein from power, argues that, 'It's pretty straightforward, France and Russia have oil companies and interests in Iraq. They should be told that if they are of assistance in moving Iraq toward decent government, we'll do the best we can to ensure that the new government and American companies work closely with them. If they throw in their lot with Saddam, it will be difficult to the point of impossible to persuade the new Iraqi government to work with them.'

His views are of course supported by the new Iraqi government-in-waiting. Faisal Qaragholi, the 'petroleum engineer who directs the London office of the Iraqi National Congress (INC), an umbrella organization of opposition groups that is backed by the United States' says that 'Our oil policies should be decided by a government in Iraq elected by the people.' Ahmed Chalabi, the INC leader, put it more bluntly and sadi that he favored a U.S.-led consortium to develop Iraq's oil fields, which would replace the existing agreements that Iraq has with Russia and France. 'American companies will have a big shot at Iraqi oil,' Chalabi said.

Note also that Bush and company have a personal stake in unilateral action. According to Leroy Sievers and the Nightline Staff at ABC, 'Dick Cheney's Halliburton Co. had interests in Iraqi oil production after the Gulf war.'

Thus, following the Gulf War, Cheney, Bush Sr. and others didn't expect that Saddam would refuse to abide by US interests and join the so-called 'family of nations.' This is really what President Bush Jr meant when he said at a cabinet meeting on Sept. 24, 2002 that he intends 'to hold Saddam Hussein to account for a decade of defiance.'

There is no shock about any of this, nor of the sordid assortment of officials and individuals directly or indirectly involved -- from the infamous US-based international arms dealer Sarkis Songhanalian and former Gen. Secord, to Oliver North and Richard Nixon -- and many others. They had been part of covert US arms and drug deals and Mafia dating back decades. Iraqgate was in fact also part of Irangate, and both are about a shadow government that circumvents domestic and international laws in arming regimes and terrorist organizations to enhance the profits of US businessmen and corporations.

The public learned since the mid-1980s that the shadow government folks played all sides of various wars, and made curious business alliances. Profits were good, but there were also ideological reasons. While arming Iraq and putting proceeds into their pockets, the covert operators also armed Iran. Israel of course, had also been arming Iran since the Ayatollah came into power in order to counter Iraq. The US soon joined these operations after Regan came to power.

Oliver North, Bush Sr., Robert McFarlane, and Gen. Secord, and others purchased from the CIA spare parts for US-made weapons and more than two thousand TOW missiles, which the CIA had purchased at discount rates from the Pentagon. Secord and North sold the weapons and parts to Iran in exchange for cash and the release of US hostages in Lebanon.

In public, Ronald Reagan repeatedly condemned negotiations with terrorists in principle and even stated on national TV that there had been no negotiations with terrorists. He went back on air a few months later and said that while he still didn't believe 'in his heart' that the US had negotiated with terrorists, the facts told him 'otherwise.' He escaped impeachment because he 'couldn't remember' signing detailed instructions for sales of weapons to Iran and for the diversion of money to the Contras.

Insiders considered these trades 'business as usual.' Former General Secord, for instance, unashamedly told Congressional investigators during the Iran-Contra hearings that his arms-dealing firm, the 'Enterprise,' which sold the TOWs to other brokers and then to Iran, was a legitimate profit-making business. And as we all know, at the other end of the deal, North channeled a portion of the proceeds from those sales through Swiss banks and to the terrorist Contras in Honduras. Their job was to overthrow the Sandinista regime that overthrew the brutal 43-year Somoza family dictatorship supported by the US.

Again, in legal terms, the scandal was not only that Reagan's administration circumvented the Boland Amendment which outlawed military support to the Contras, but also that the CIA had also mined the harbors of Nicaragua. When the US was taken to the International Court of Justice (ICJ) and convicted of violating international laws, President Reagan disregarded this conviction saying the ICJ had no jurisdiction over the United States.

Bush Jr. has stated the following reasons for invading Iraq, all of which are accurate except the last: (1) Iraq used chemical weapons, (2) Iraq tried to build nuclear weapons, and (3) the US tried to bring Iraq into the 'family of nations' (said first by Bush Sr). He is correct that Iraq was willing to use chemical weapons and has been trying to build nuclear weapons for years. Of course, he just fails to mention that the US was willing to sell, and to help Iraq use, chemical weapons of mass destruction and that his friends profited handsomely in so doing. He also fails to note that today Hussein is not seen as an immediate threat by it's Arab neighbors, none of whom have called for his ouster, and that Iraq has only a shadow of the power it had in 1990. There is no evidence to support Bush or Blair's claims that Iraq has and is preparing to use chemical or biological weapons.

Lastly, what about Bush Jr.'s third contention, that the US had tried to bring Saddam into the 'family of nations?' In view of the thousands upon thousands of women, children, and men butchered with US battle plans and arms, as well as arms from Europe, one could only characterize that family as being composed of unscrupulous, profiteering, vile accomplices to mass murder. Perhaps this is also a reason why the Bush administration opposes the formation of the World Court and needs US politicians and military personel exempt from international law.

Elson E. Boles is an Assistant Professor of Sociology at Saginaw Valley State University University in Michigan.

 
I read the whole thing! and first i still support bush and what he has done. second the world was a diffrent place before 1989 and the fall of the soviet union.

Opinions are your own, but actions are not. Actions also affect others, for better or for worse.

that's my two cents

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yeah, the guy's a fucking retard and I'd support him if he weren't president but he is and that sucks so if you're gonna bitch about it at least bitch to somebody that can make a difference. I'll bet more than 75% of the population of the US hates him and over 90% of the world hates him but if everybody just bitches amongst themselves and never expresses their feelings to somebody who actually has a say then it's pointless wining so stop!

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funkymunk, the reference to secular members of islamic jihad was used as an example of someone who supported Hussein. There are no secular members of islamic jihad (hope im not being too subtle for all of you). And crankskimafia, in regards to your lengthy and plagarized post on united states hypocracy, which came to conclusions that i doubt you yourself could have come to by, yourself. I have two words for you Real Politik. Bizmark came up with it when he was ruling germany about 100 years ago incase you dont know. It means that as the world changes, your foreign policy changes. And as we can all see from you copied article, our foreign policy has changed, due to changes in the world.

If you have a 1380 SAT and a 86.71 GPA... what does everyone say? Not good job, not 'O wow, thats awesome!' No, they say things like 'You are an underachiever'

Originally posted by strode420

'it was impressive, sort of like a gay dude taking a cock that's too big for him without screaming'

 
due u are the dumest fukin american alive shut the fuck up bush and the skull and bonees socciety are fuking up the world, the only reason they went to war in iraq and afganistan was oil, 9/11 was set up for an excuse to get more oil and to push the new world order end of story shut the ffuck up on your cnn bull shit opinion and wake up and see wats really happening to the world beecasue of your so called leader fukin fagot

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yep we went to afghanistan for oil, good point buddy because theres so much oil in afghanistan for us to take, wait a minute! there is no oil in afghanistan

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who care you dont have a say in anything so why complain or get angry. is ur 1 little tiny opinion even gonna matter? how much time will you spend to get ur point across? yea, pretty stupid of urself to try and actually make a difference. so just stop worring about it and go on with ur life. hell it will make it alot less complicated.

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well, I am a member of secular islamic jihad, so Bush can go choke on a hotdog.

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And for America, there will be no going back to the era before September the 11th, 2001 — to false comfort in a dangerous world. We have learned that terrorist attacks are not caused by the use of strength; they are invited by the perception of weakness. And the surest way to avoid attacks on our own people is to engage the enemy where he lives and plans. We are fighting that enemy in Iraq and Afghanistan today so that we do not meet him again on our own streets, in our own cities. - George W. Bush

 
i saw this show on tv. it was about soldiers at a checkpoint in iraq. They killed like 30 innocent people in a week, and were in terrible shape because of it. The SOP is to fire a warning shot and then open up on the vehicle (even at night). Thats not what i'd call peacekeeping.

 
Lineskier10...while im not saying they went for oil or didnt go for oil, im just clarifying something....you my friend are the dumbass. Afghanistan is actually very important when speaking of oil. The reason why all the controversy started over Afghanistan is cause back in the day in the 70s and 80s, the Russians took the country over in order to build oil pipes across because there is actually lots of oil in that region. In return the USA provided local fighters with weapons to fight the Russians. Just trying to make you realize that you shouldnt be talking shit when you're actually wrong...Afghanistan is actually important in the grand scheme of oil.

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9/11 was set up for an excuse to get more oil and to push the new world order end of story

people who say shit like this just fuckiing piss me off. holy shit, how dumb are you? DO YOU KNOW THE FUCKING DEATH TOLL OF 9/11??????

if you really think that our country would do something like that for OIL (!!!!!) then you really need to take a look around. you believe what you see on conspiracy sites dont you? holy shit. i just hope youre kidding

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just stand closer to the explosion. it will make it seem biggger.-aoe

 
haha, if somebody actually said that they should kill themselves. You watch entirely to many conspiracy movies...

But 9/11 was definetely not what it was made out to be and the death toll was probably a good thing because of over population. People really do need to start dying (at least possibly willingly) for the good of humanity....

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can somebody show me proof that we have gained oil out of this war and that bush is now richer? That's probably because there is none, it's just bullshit propaganda put out by left media to promote anarchy in the U.S. So stop spouting this type of bullshit, you're just making yourself look dumber.

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^^if u think 9/11 was a good thing tahn i hope ur canadian casue if ur american im goin to kick ur ass and ^ that is a good point

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Obviously there's less terrorism because we stood against it. If you don't get caught stealing from a store, you'll keep doing it, if you get stopped and punished and punished you'll stop and realize it aint so easy.

Oil this, Oil that, its the only thing liberals can do a debate on, while its super irrelevant for that matter.

AND YOU GUYS DRIVE CARS!!! If you're against anything oil, than why should u be able to get heat, drive a car ride a bus, etc, etc. BECAUSE we all need it and we all use it, so quit your whining about something u use everyday!!! hypocrites meeeh

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