Supply chain issues affecting skiing??

Notaskibum

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Anyone know of any wack issues affecting ski gear this year? Anything not available?

Surprised I haven't heard of anything.
 
I don't understand why we don't just give these jobs to homeless people or people that can't get a job
 
14343112:Piss_Boy said:
I don't understand why we don't just give these jobs to homeless people or people that can't get a job

Because why get a job doing shitty manual labor when you can live in a tent and do heroin with your buddies all day long?
 
14343112:Piss_Boy said:
I don't understand why we don't just give these jobs to homeless people or people that can't get a job

This might be the more ignorant statement to ever grace this website, bravo.
 
14343112:Piss_Boy said:
I don't understand why we don't just give these jobs to homeless people or people that can't get a job

Tons of employers wishing it was that easy right now.
 
I tried getting some faction prodigy 2.0 171cm and some stores i visted were out and couldnt get anymore from the supplier ended up having to get 177s instead
 
14343112:Piss_Boy said:
I don't understand why we don't just give these jobs to homeless people or people that can't get a job

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make then drink.

14343201:Piss_Boy said:
Whatever. But why can't we? I genuinely don't understand

Some folks don't want a "job". It's sad, but true. Some have severe issues. It's way deeper than just offering them a "job".
 
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as someone who works at a shop half the stuff was supposed to get here a month ago and hasn't even shipped yet or is stuck in cali
 
14343332:Piss_Boy said:
Shipping. They don't have people to unload ships and stuff

Thats a really broad statement. They don't have crane operators to pull the crates from the ships (Unionized workforce as well as skilled labor, hence can't just give that job to anyone) Also there aren't enough truckers to get the crates from port to their distribution centers (another skilled roll you cant just hand to anyone, you have to have a CDL). this is a multifaceted supply chain problem, not even going to speak to how other countries where brands get raw materials are struggling to continue to do so. its a breakdown along the entire product cycle.
 
Oh shit. I thought the only issue was was couldn't find workers. Then again I've only heard from people who heard from someone else so

14343456:IcantSki42069 said:
Thats a really broad statement. They don't have crane operators to pull the crates from the ships (Unionized workforce as well as skilled labor, hence can't just give that job to anyone) Also there aren't enough truckers to get the crates from port to their distribution centers (another skilled roll you cant just hand to anyone, you have to have a CDL). this is a multifaceted supply chain problem, not even going to speak to how other countries where brands get raw materials are struggling to continue to do so. its a breakdown along the entire product cycle.
 
I feel like all these supply chain issues will further accelerate the trend toward automation, as the overhead of automation will provide faster returns in an area where labor is more expensive than an area where labor is cheap. Obviously human labor is still needed but decreasingly on the physical manipulation side as the software and manufacturing methods get better.

Even with domestic manufacturing, there still needs to be the import of raw materials or the use of alternative materials. I could still see that simplifying the supply chain as there would be fewer buyers taking delivery of a larger volume of goods per capita.
 
Wait till stuff breaks at resorts. Snowmaking, lifts, grooming equipment. I’ve already had issues with parts and sourcing them. If it’s an odd ball part you could be in trouble.

Local ski shop by me had all their inventory in, but could not get anymore. So once they sell out of a ski or boot, that’s it for them.
 
14343459:Piss_Boy said:
Oh shit. I thought the only issue was was couldn't find workers. Then again I've only heard from people who heard from someone else so

I’m working in supply chain and sourcing - can tell you for sure it’s not any single sole issue. Hiring people is a problem for sure but that’s not causing the container shortage, or production shutdowns in China. It’s a cluster.
 
Im going to bring this thread all together:

Just get the homeless people and pay them the sweatshop wages we pay Chinese and then we can make all the stuff we need here and dont have to worry about shipping any of it.

Boom problem solved.
 
topic:Notaskibum said:
Anyone know of any wack issues affecting ski gear this year? Anything not available?

Surprised I haven't heard of anything.

Burton has had quite a limited supply of certain pants & jackets this season. Asked them when they're going to restock and got an honest answer telling me it's due to covid related supply shortage and no restock date available.
 
Also ordered a pair of skis and two pairs of Pivots over a month ago from a supplier who has made their order to Look way back in the summer months, and we are still waiting for the Pivots. Look hasn't commented this in any detail, just stated there's a production delay. Or at least the shop didn't tell me about it. It's my go-to shop and one of the biggest shops in Finland so no doubts on them.

Has anyone heard this happening over the other side of the pond?
 
Worked in a shop in NZ this season. The entire shipment of salomon was delayed until *mid-august*, meaning (with lockdown) we only had september to try and clear an entire order of skis...
 
This is my 10th year in a ski shop and its crazy. We are out of rentals in certain sizes already and already low on some hardgoods this early in the season. Not to mention we cant special order anything for customers because the turn around time is so long.

Let me say this to help everyone thinking of buying anything ski or winter related. DO IT NOW!!

If you need anything go into a shop and grab it asap dont sleep on it.

Also side note, we are still waiting on some orders for the shop that were placed in February/March of this year.
 
14344008:rdhans24 said:
Everyone is still blaming Covid for this shit. Might be a bigger issue, like people too lazy to work.

again - labor supply isn't usually the issue here. Random small businesses not being able to find workers is not the same thing as too many containers stuck at the ports or a factory in china shut down.
 
14343503:SkiBum. said:
Wait till stuff breaks at resorts. Snowmaking, lifts, grooming equipment. I’ve already had issues with parts and sourcing them. If it’s an odd ball part you could be in trouble.

Local ski shop by me had all their inventory in, but could not get anymore. So once they sell out of a ski or boot, that’s it for them.

Damn I'm just thinking about how hard Sierra at Tahoe is going to have it.

A bunch of their snowcats burned along with a maintenance building... they need several lift cables and I'm sure a bunch of other parts.

Happy to hear the homies at Mammoth and Palisades and other resorts around are helping them in any way they can.
 
Yup, literally just buying any and all boots in stock regardless of model so we can still have something to sell
 
14343871:tominiemenmaa said:
Also ordered a pair of skis and two pairs of Pivots over a month ago from a supplier who has made their order to Look way back in the summer months, and we are still waiting for the Pivots. Look hasn't commented this in any detail, just stated there's a production delay. Or at least the shop didn't tell me about it. It's my go-to shop and one of the biggest shops in Finland so no doubts on them.

Has anyone heard this happening over the other side of the pond?

It’s fucked
 
i was taking to the manager at my local shop, he was saying snowboard gear has actually been more backed up then ski gear not sure why. Apparently most things are fine but outerwear may be an issue
 
Finally got The Call from the shop yesterday. They had ordered the batch in January and they got some of the ordered products yesterday, not rhe full batch. Pivots are very hard to find in the europe, even the biggest online retailers have very random stock, like 3 week delivery times in b95s and only have b75 & b130 in stock...

The go-to shop of mine had already placed the 22-23 season's Pivot order a month ago. It's crazy.

Super hyped to finally get my new sticks on monday tho! ?

14343871:tominiemenmaa said:
Also ordered a pair of skis and two pairs of Pivots over a month ago from a supplier who has made their order to Look way back in the summer months, and we are still waiting for the Pivots. Look hasn't commented this in any detail, just stated there's a production delay. Or at least the shop didn't tell me about it. It's my go-to shop and one of the biggest shops in Finland so no doubts on them.

Has anyone heard this happening over the other side of the pond?
 
14343133:Film. said:
Because why get a job doing shitty manual labor when you can live in a tent and do heroin with your buddies all day long?

That’s pretty pog man. Jkjk hard stuff is bad, but chillin in a tent? Get some drums with yo buds, scream, and you’re Gucci.
 
Honestly, I’m surprised it has taken this long to feel the effects. I remember in australia in 2020, so many shipments did not make it and inventory was super thin. I, also, noticed that USA prices seemed more expensive and inventory seemed less last year compared to usual.

I went to powder7 in golden this past week and they did not have nearly as many skis on the wall as I expected.

14354774:wasatch_rat said:
Shop I work for is definitely feeling the affects. Super thin inventory to start the season
 
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