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BrandonCool
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Whats happening???
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BrandonCool
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^yes i agree
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alpinecowboy84
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its nice to see that some people know about it. i should post an intro to a presentation that i edited where we walked around campus with my video camera and asked people if they knew about it and its just person after person saying 'no'
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BrandonCool
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^ since you say you know about it...then tell us!!!
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he just told you. its been going on for over a year. over a million black sudaneese farmers have been forced out of their homes, hundreds of thousands killed by a islamic millitant group called the janjaweed, which is, or has been supported by the sudaneese government. the AU (african union) is supposed to be handling the situation under the watch of the UN. i havnt heard latley how thats going, but im guessing probably not that great.
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It is an absolute atrocity. This is just another failure of the United Nations as well. We offered support but they told us to stay out. The UN keeps giving Sudan small slaps on the wrist and month long 'warnings' to stop killing (eye roll) otherwise the UN will come in and 'reprimand' them.
It is Middle Eastern Muslims slaughtering, raping, beating, and pillaging Sudanese/African Muslims. I don't even know what the death toll is at. I know it is at least 50,000 plus. It is sickening. It is amazing what a failure the UN has become.
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It is Middle Eastern Muslims slaughtering, raping, beating, and pillaging Sudanese/African Muslims. I don't even know what the death toll is at. I know it is at least 50,000 plus. It is sickening. It is amazing what a failure the UN has become.
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yeah and its fucking incredible how the media just isn't covering it. look i don't want to EVER suggest that 9/11 was a devestating tragedy, but it killed a infantescimal fraction of the number murdered in Sudan and it had no less hatred in its deliverance. Almost no one in the US or in many of the other 'western' nations has any clue that this is happening - and its been going for quite some time now.
but i'll tell you though, if you choose to learn about it, be prepared to get very very angry that no one is doing anything to help.
people said it after the holocaust and peoploe said it again after rwanda: 'never forget.' that meant never ever let ethnic cleansing happen again. well its happening and no one seems to be bothering to do anything about it.
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but i'll tell you though, if you choose to learn about it, be prepared to get very very angry that no one is doing anything to help.
people said it after the holocaust and peoploe said it again after rwanda: 'never forget.' that meant never ever let ethnic cleansing happen again. well its happening and no one seems to be bothering to do anything about it.
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Remember, the US offered to help. The UN and the African Union said they would handle it. They suuuuuure are doing a grrreeeaaaat job.
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Article from CNN:
NAIROBI, Kenya -- Warring factions in southern Sudan have signed a pledge to formally end their 21-year old civil war at a rare meeting of U.N. Security Council ambassadors in Nairobi.
The council wanted all of its 15 ambassadors to witness the memorandum of understanding in which the Sudanese government and its southern rebel opponents the Sudan People's Liberation Army have promised to reach a final peace agreement by December 31, according to Reuters reports.
The council left its New York headquarters for the first time in 14 years to go to the Kenyan capital to lend its weight to peace negotiations between the rival parties in Sudan.
The U.N. body has also voted unanimously in favor of a resolution aiming to bring peace to the country.
The move to conclude a two-year peace process for the south of the African nation came after U.N. chief Kofi Annan called on the council to issue its 'strongest warning' to forces fighting in Sudan to sign a peace deal before the end of the year.
In addition to finding an end to the civil war in Sudan's south, the council is meeting in Nairobi to end a humanitarian crisis in the western region of Darfur.
Nearly two million people have died, largely through war-induced hunger and disease, in a conflict between Sudan's Arab north and its Christian and traditionalist south.
The Darfur crisis began in February 2003, when non-Arab rebel groups took up arms to fight for more power and resources. The government responded by backing Arab militias, who have driven millions of villagers from their homes.
The United Nations has called Darfur one of the world's worst humanitarian disasters, and Washington has labeled it genocide.
Twenty-one months of violence have left tens of thousands dead and driven 1.8 million people from their homes, international officials say. Some 200,000 of the refugees have fled to neighboring Chad.
Sudanese Vice President Ali Osman Taha told the council his country was committed to peace, but the AP quoted him as saying 'the war in Darfur ... has been instigated by local parties who receive support from foreign parties.'
Council divisions
The council is holding out a carrot of development aid, including debt relief for all parties, once a north-south pact is sealed. But so far there is no sign of a stick other than U.S. sanctions.
There are divisions on the 15-member council. Russia, China, Pakistan and Algeria object to strong language in a draft declaration condemning the atrocities in Darfur.
Earlier, the four abstained on a council resolution threatening an oil embargo if the Sudanese government failed to rein in the militias and hold them accountable for human rights atrocities.
In September, U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell -- who has called the violence in Darfur genocide -- accused the four countries of valuing business with Sudan over humanitarian concerns.
Ahead of Thursday's meeting, human rights groups insisted the council take a harder line by imposing an arms embargo or threatening sanctions against the government.
'Unless they are held accountable for abuses in the south, the Sudanese authorities will continue to believe they can get away with murder in Darfur,' Jemera Rone of New York-based group Human Rights Watch said.
'We very much want a peace agreement for the south because they've been at war for 21 years now and that's enough.'
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NAIROBI, Kenya -- Warring factions in southern Sudan have signed a pledge to formally end their 21-year old civil war at a rare meeting of U.N. Security Council ambassadors in Nairobi.
The council wanted all of its 15 ambassadors to witness the memorandum of understanding in which the Sudanese government and its southern rebel opponents the Sudan People's Liberation Army have promised to reach a final peace agreement by December 31, according to Reuters reports.
The council left its New York headquarters for the first time in 14 years to go to the Kenyan capital to lend its weight to peace negotiations between the rival parties in Sudan.
The U.N. body has also voted unanimously in favor of a resolution aiming to bring peace to the country.
The move to conclude a two-year peace process for the south of the African nation came after U.N. chief Kofi Annan called on the council to issue its 'strongest warning' to forces fighting in Sudan to sign a peace deal before the end of the year.
In addition to finding an end to the civil war in Sudan's south, the council is meeting in Nairobi to end a humanitarian crisis in the western region of Darfur.
Nearly two million people have died, largely through war-induced hunger and disease, in a conflict between Sudan's Arab north and its Christian and traditionalist south.
The Darfur crisis began in February 2003, when non-Arab rebel groups took up arms to fight for more power and resources. The government responded by backing Arab militias, who have driven millions of villagers from their homes.
The United Nations has called Darfur one of the world's worst humanitarian disasters, and Washington has labeled it genocide.
Twenty-one months of violence have left tens of thousands dead and driven 1.8 million people from their homes, international officials say. Some 200,000 of the refugees have fled to neighboring Chad.
Sudanese Vice President Ali Osman Taha told the council his country was committed to peace, but the AP quoted him as saying 'the war in Darfur ... has been instigated by local parties who receive support from foreign parties.'
Council divisions
The council is holding out a carrot of development aid, including debt relief for all parties, once a north-south pact is sealed. But so far there is no sign of a stick other than U.S. sanctions.
There are divisions on the 15-member council. Russia, China, Pakistan and Algeria object to strong language in a draft declaration condemning the atrocities in Darfur.
Earlier, the four abstained on a council resolution threatening an oil embargo if the Sudanese government failed to rein in the militias and hold them accountable for human rights atrocities.
In September, U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell -- who has called the violence in Darfur genocide -- accused the four countries of valuing business with Sudan over humanitarian concerns.
Ahead of Thursday's meeting, human rights groups insisted the council take a harder line by imposing an arms embargo or threatening sanctions against the government.
'Unless they are held accountable for abuses in the south, the Sudanese authorities will continue to believe they can get away with murder in Darfur,' Jemera Rone of New York-based group Human Rights Watch said.
'We very much want a peace agreement for the south because they've been at war for 21 years now and that's enough.'
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alpinecowboy84
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^thats true, but lets face it if the US wants to do something they're going to do regardless of what the UN says...(its another debate but remember that whole iraq thing?)
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alpinecowboy84
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if you really want to get a good sense of whats going on go to the human rights watch website
www.hrw.org
they have very good videos and everything
in fact somebody make a link. no ones going to bother learning about this unless theres a video to watch.
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www.hrw.org
they have very good videos and everything
in fact somebody make a link. no ones going to bother learning about this unless theres a video to watch.
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