Stop Cork Abuse

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Trifes

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Can we collectively agree on that a cork is an off axis rotation and certain pros / referees should stop accepting peoples "cork" calls when those said people are dead flat in reality. Wobbles are lit , full on corkage is lit, but calling a flat ass rotation cork and claiming it , yet even getting a pass for it - is a disgrace for the cork lifestyle haha , just my triggered 2 cents

rant over. #stopCorkAbuse

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**This thread was edited on Apr 5th 2019 at 4:58:47am
 
But they lean their head and arms a bit so obviously a cork. But yeah, when you can tell somebodys trying to cork but doesn't even hit 5 degrees.
 
What should the cutoff be for calling something cork?

I'm voting for 50 degrees off axis or more, and it must clearly come back around.
 
14020962:john18061806 said:
What should the cutoff be for calling something cork?

I'm voting for 50 degrees off axis or more, and it must clearly come back around.
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Keep an eye out for the new jskis protractor- coming to a store near you
 
We stopped being able to take the moral high ground on calling tricks when everyone started calling wackflips "flat 3" back in like 2008. We live in a world where people are allowed to "identify" their tricks as whatever they want. It's a free for all now.

**This post was edited on Apr 5th 2019 at 12:53:35pm
 
14020962:john18061806 said:
What should the cutoff be for calling something cork?

I'm voting for 50 degrees off axis or more, and it must clearly come back around.
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My friend and I were discussing this the other day, I think it’s all about how you come out of the rotation. If you come out flat on that last 180 if your cork 3 then obviously it wasn’t corked. But when you get the cork properly you’ll do a licolny type last 180
 
From the old thread

Cork

A cork is a off axis spin that is leaned back, but so that the rider does not go inverted at any point. It is a popular trick, and many pro’s and amateurs do these very well.

Bio

A forward corking non-inverted spin. Note the lean the rider has forwards at about 360. Also, see CR Johnson in SM2, SM3 or Propaganda, he does them best.

D-spin

Set the same way a cork is, but is more leaned back. A d-spin is essentially any cork where you become inverted. In all of these videos note how the feet will go above the head. Evan Raps does these very well, also see Mike Douglas.

Flatspin

Flatspins are very close to rodeos. They are thrown almost the exact same, but the difference is that in a flatspin, the rider never gets completely inverted. Heres a way to think about it: A line extending through you from your head to your toes when you stand up. In a rodeo, this line ends up completely inverted at some point (although your feet can be somewhere else, like leaned back in a tail or a mute or something) while in a flatspin, this line never reaches true vertical. The line between what is a rodeo and a flatspin is understandably very blurry, especially when one considers tweaked grabs and such.
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Candide, Raps, and Mike D have the best d-spin in the game.
 
14021006:TWoods said:
We stopped being able to take the moral high ground on calling tricks when everyone started calling wackflips "flat 3" back in like 2008. We live in a world where people are allowed to "identify" their tricks as whatever they want. It's a free for all now.

**This post was edited on Apr 5th 2019 at 12:53:35pm
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so ill do a pencil 1080 while looking down and demand it to be identified as tripple 1080 (sarcasm)
 
Lol I remember when triple corks were the big controversy. The first one I remember was Bobby Brown in Grand Bizzare, but I'm sure there was one before that?
 
I love corks just as much as the next guy but personally it also gets on my nerves when a rider calls (let’s just say) a 10 but they don’t specify cork, and then proceed to bang out a completely corked 10. I think the rider should have to specify if it’s a cork and if they don’t call cork and do a cork the trick shouldn’t count. This is just because I think with a lot of larger spins it actually becomes easier to do a cork than spin a straight spin (maybe with spins over 9)
 
Also, Whole diffferent can of worms.. but a backflip with a cocked head is not a flat three. argue with me, but you're wrong.
 
14021061:ElizabethWarren said:
I love corks just as much as the next guy but personally it also gets on my nerves when a rider calls (let’s just say) a 10 but they don’t specify cork, and then proceed to bang out a completely corked 10. I think the rider should have to specify if it’s a cork and if they don’t call cork and do a cork the trick shouldn’t count. This is just because I think with a lot of larger spins it actually becomes easier to do a cork than spin a straight spin (maybe with spins over 9)
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do a flat based 9 or 10, no cork. Its harder than cork 9 & 10 and harder control.
 
New precedents says that single corks should be called by their rotations, and double corks as dub followed by their rotation. Official discretion is given to the viewer, not the skier.

**This post was edited on Apr 6th 2019 at 11:31:50pm
 
14021245:big.love said:
do a flat based 9 or 10, no cork. Its harder than cork 9 & 10 and harder control.
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That’s exactly what I’m saying, straight 9’s or 10’s are harder to control and spot than cork 9’s and 10’s
 
14021043:trifonitchev said:
so ill do a pencil 1080 while looking down and demand it to be identified as tripple 1080 (sarcasm)
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That's absolutely correct

"PLEASE REFER TO MY TRICK BY MY PREFERRED AXIS IDENTITY"
 
The X-Games definition of a cork:

"The skier does one distinct off-axis or inverted horizontal rotation. At no point should the skier’s feet be above their head."

Hugo Burvall's Cork 5 blunt in his last game of SLVSH:
 
thats ok in my books as long anything happens , but people that remain flat , shall be sent to the ranch of Dr.Phil
 
14023080:BrawnTrends said:
The X-Games definition of a cork:

"The skier does one distinct off-axis or inverted horizontal rotation. At no point should the skier’s feet be above their head."

Hugo Burvall's Cork 5 blunt in his last game of SLVSH:
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The video isnt even level. straighten out the horizon line and he is in fact corked with his head almost at the same plane as his feet.
 
14023088:freeskibum82 said:
The video isnt even level. straighten out the horizon line and he is in fact corked with his head almost at the same plane as his feet.
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I did, and his feet are still above his head. You can compare it with his ao cork 5 lead mute in that same game:
 
14023080:BrawnTrends said:
The X-Games definition of a cork:

"The skier does one distinct off-axis or inverted horizontal rotation. At no point should the skier’s feet be above their head."

Hugo Burvall's Cork 5 blunt in his last game of SLVSH:
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wait so now we're yelling at people for getting TOO corked?
 
14023089:BrawnTrends said:
I did, and his feet are still above his head. You can compare it with his ao cork 5 lead mute in that same game:
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The pictures look the same bruh
 
14023170:eheath said:
The pictures look the same bruh
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Let’s agree to disagree on this one, interpretation is subjective anyway (so is the definition of a cork these days).

What’s the limit of invertion on a cork then? Is there even one? When does too much cork stops being a cork and becomes something else.
 
14023208:BrawnTrends said:
Let’s agree to disagree on this one, interpretation is subjective anyway (so is the definition of a cork these days).

What’s the limit of invertion on a cork then? Is there even one? When does too much cork stops being a cork and becomes something else.
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You're talking about a pretty rare situation with even a more rare outcome, getting nit picky about an off axis 540 is ridiculous.
 
14023213:eheath said:
You're talking about a pretty rare situation with even a more rare outcome, getting nit picky about an off axis 540 is ridiculous.
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It’s more a general question, the screen grabs were just examples because I had it in mind (just like Colby’s cork 6 out I just saw in his game an hour ago). I’m sure there are many more examples.

Speaking of Colby’s Game... Interesting call from Woodsy on Taisei’s cork 6, completely on topic with the general discussion here.

Was it really a cork?
 
14023223:BrawnTrends said:
It’s more a general question, the screen grabs were just examples because I had it in mind (just like Colby’s cork 6 out I just saw in his game an hour ago). I’m sure there are many more examples.

Speaking of Colby’s Game... Interesting call from Woodsy on Taisei’s cork 6, completely on topic with the general discussion here.

Was it really a cork?
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I wouldn't have given taisei the cork 6 out, he just slightly leaned his body while grabbing. What cobly did was a very proper cork 6 out.
 
New definition for cork in my book: it's corked if the inside shoulder is dropped on the set and at some point in the air the rider is off-axis enough that they would be absolutely screwed if they hit the ground in that position.
 
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