Sony A7s vs Sony FS700

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I know there has been a tonne of these on here recently but heres another one. I would ideally like to own a Sony FS7 but can't afford one and so am now looking at either getting a second hand FS700 or buying a new A7s.

The way I see it, the A7s has low light superiority and the FS700 has better image quality and better slow motion. I want to know if anyone has used either of these cameras, do you think i will be missing out by settling for the A7s which is where I'm leaning right now? I know these are very different camera but I have done a heap of research and think it has to be between these two.

For anyone who has used the A7s, does it have full manual control in video mode, for thing like Gain, Shutter speed etc?

Thanks in advance
 
The obvious question here is what will you be using it for? I would be wary of the A7s for skiing due to horrendous rolling shutter issues, but whether it will be an issue for you is totally dependent on what you're using it for.
 
i have both an fs700 and a7s. for the price, id go with a7s. biggest things you wont get, that the fs700 has, is super slow-mo and build in ND filters. a7s has a better image and isnt a ridiculous size and shape. just get a few extra batteries with the a7s since its super tiny and battery capacity is about half a canon battery.

both of the Adventures in Transitions videos this year were shot with the a7s. rolling shutter isnt the biggest issue unless you plan on doing lots of whip-pans or filming out the car window at high speeds. but it is the worst of any dslr ive used. plus you can film usable footage up to 32000 iso, not just 1260.
https://vimeo.com/124957427
 
13421114:Forcillo said:
The obvious question here is what will you be using it for? I would be wary of the A7s for skiing due to horrendous rolling shutter issues, but whether it will be an issue for you is totally dependent on what you're using it for.
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I will be using it for mainly skiing but also for other filming, no photos
 
13421317:jake_s said:
i have both an fs700 and a7s. for the price, id go with a7s. biggest things you wont get, that the fs700 has, is super slow-mo and build in ND filters. a7s has a better image and isnt a ridiculous size and shape. just get a few extra batteries with the a7s since its super tiny and battery capacity is about half a canon battery.

both of the Adventures in Transitions videos this year were shot with the a7s. rolling shutter isnt the biggest issue unless you plan on doing lots of whip-pans or filming out the car window at high speeds. but it is the worst of any dslr ive used. plus you can film usable footage up to 32000 iso, not just 1260.
https://vimeo.com/124957427
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great, thanks, thats really helpful
 
13421317:jake_s said:
i have both an fs700 and a7s. for the price, id go with a7s. biggest things you wont get, that the fs700 has, is super slow-mo and build in ND filters. a7s has a better image and isnt a ridiculous size and shape. just get a few extra batteries with the a7s since its super tiny and battery capacity is about half a canon battery.

both of the Adventures in Transitions videos this year were shot with the a7s. rolling shutter isnt the biggest issue unless you plan on doing lots of whip-pans or filming out the car window at high speeds. but it is the worst of any dslr ive used. plus you can film usable footage up to 32000 iso, not just 1260.
https://vimeo.com/124957427
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A couple more questions, does the A7s have manual control over gain, shutter speed etc? (For video mode)

Also what lenses do you use? I have a rokinon 16mm but its for aps-c and so would have to use the a7s aps-c crop mode, does this degrade the video quality/sharpness/detail?

Thanks bro
 
You have manual control over everything.

I use Sony E and FE lenses, as well as tokina and rokinon. Anything other than the Sony FE lenses require the camera to be in Crop Mode. Same quality as full frame, but crop actually helps reduce rolling shutter slightly.
 
13421678:jake_s said:
You have manual control over everything.

I use Sony E and FE lenses, as well as tokina and rokinon. Anything other than the Sony FE lenses require the camera to be in Crop Mode. Same quality as full frame, but crop actually helps reduce rolling shutter slightly.
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sweet thanks
 
I just got an a7s a few weeks ago and it is AMAZING!!!!! I am in love. Stunning image and the low light opens up so much room for creativity. stellar photo camera as well.

I will write some things you should know about it because I have nothing better to do.

I have the "kit" 28-70 which I have found to be a really sharp and really high quality lens. Got it used for $200 which is nothing for that level of quality. If you want wider for filming skiing, I would look into some vintage minolta, canna or nikon primes and get an adapter. would save a lot of money since you don't need fancy autofocus for wide angle. A battery grip is a good idea for solving battery life issues. You can find 3rd party grips on ebay for like $40, but just know they won't be super durable or high quality. I had to jerry rig mine so the batteries wouldn't jostle around but works fine now. Also shooting in slog is great for getting super high dynamic range but you Need some quality ND filters or a single variable nd filter to film in daylight since slog's base iso is 3200 (not sure why but it looks great!). I would also consider buying the vision color osiris LUT package ($50ish) which gives you amazing film look and grade. I am just learning grading and grading in slog so this has sped up the process. From watching Adventures in Transistitions it looks like they used the osiris LUTS.

Imo the a7s's image just looks a whole league better than the gh4. Dynamic range of the camera makes it feel like you have a 15 grand cinema camera at your fingertips. For videographers who can't drop over $3000, the a7s is by far the best option.
 
13423031:Hodor said:
I just got an a7s a few weeks ago and it is AMAZING!!!!! I am in love. Stunning image and the low light opens up so much room for creativity. stellar photo camera as well.

I will write some things you should know about it because I have nothing better to do.

I have the "kit" 28-70 which I have found to be a really sharp and really high quality lens. Got it used for $200 which is nothing for that level of quality. If you want wider for filming skiing, I would look into some vintage minolta, canna or nikon primes and get an adapter. would save a lot of money since you don't need fancy autofocus for wide angle. A battery grip is a good idea for solving battery life issues. You can find 3rd party grips on ebay for like $40, but just know they won't be super durable or high quality. I had to jerry rig mine so the batteries wouldn't jostle around but works fine now. Also shooting in slog is great for getting super high dynamic range but you Need some quality ND filters or a single variable nd filter to film in daylight since slog's base iso is 3200 (not sure why but it looks great!). I would also consider buying the vision color osiris LUT package ($50ish) which gives you amazing film look and grade. I am just learning grading and grading in slog so this has sped up the process. From watching Adventures in Transistitions it looks like they used the osiris LUTS.

Imo the a7s's image just looks a whole league better than the gh4. Dynamic range of the camera makes it feel like you have a 15 grand cinema camera at your fingertips. For videographers who can't drop over $3000, the a7s is by far the best option.
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cheers thanks mate, yeah i think my mind has been made up, gonna get one this season
 
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