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antwone

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i wrote some shit cause i dont actually know how that shit is called yo.

where do i find gear for hiking

ie: bindings that can detach on the rear and layer to put under ski to hike.

me is beginning to think that my fucking hill is boring and i want to explore unexplored mountains so where do i start

thank you
 
They're not bindings. They clip into your bindings so that you can tour with a regular alpine skiing setup. Or you could get real touring bindings instead.
 
what you are looking for is touring bindings and skins.

skins are pretty simple. things you put on the bottom of your skis so that they dont slip back on the way up. youll cut them to fit your skis once you get them.

some things to know about skins though. skinning on rockered skis = not much fun. you want as much surface area contacting the snow as possible, so you want to stick to traditional or zero camber skis for skinning. you can on rockered skis, but the more drastic the rocker, the worse its gonna be in terms of traction.

as for bindings, you are looking for touring bindings. they allow you to release the heel on the hike up, and lock them down for the descent. however because they have a releasable heel, they tend not to be as rigid or generally strong as a traditional alpine binding. so dont expect to be hucking big cliffs or landing switch like EP on em

but for bindings here you have a LOT of options

marker has the duke touring binding. its advantage is, for a touring binding. its pretty burly. aka you can ski it as hard as you could a traditional alpine binding, and its almost as rigid. on the other hand, its also extremely heavy, so its not much fun for things beyond short day trips etc. if you are planning on going on longer tours, hut trips etc, they are gonna suck because youll tucker yourself out skinning with em all day.

link

http://www.backcountry.com/outdoorgear/Marker-Duke-16-Ski-Binding/MRK0005M.html

black diamond has the fritschi diamer binding. another solid touring binding, a huge portion of the people i know tour on these. they have a couple different varieties, a beefed up 12 din version that will sacrifice a little weight for a much stiffer/more rigid and stronger platform if you want to ski harder stuff. they also have a lighter version thats lighter, and better for skinning, but slightly less rigid and strong.

lighter version link (i think this is it)

http://www.backcountry.com/outdoorgear/Black-Diamond-Fritschi-Diamir-Eagle-Binding/BLD0497M.html

12 din version

http://www.backcountry.com/outdoorgear/Black-Diamond-Fritschi-Diamir-Freeride-Plus-Binding/BLD0783M.html

the last major touring binding i can think of is the dynafit.

without a doubt, this is THE lightest of the bindings ive mentioned, but its also the least ideal for super hard skiing on the way down. i dont know much about this binding, but i know nomensteven has a pair and loves em. bottom line, super light, but not ideal if your looking to shred really hard.

link

http://www.backcountry.com/outdoorgear/Dynafit-TLT-Vertical-ST-Alpine-Touring-Binding/DNF0003M.html

what the kid above me posted are simply adapters, that allow you to use traditional alpine bindings, but release the heel. i know very little about these, but it seems to me that your best option would be a REAL touring binding, not to half ass it.

finally though, theres a TON of other stuff you are gonna need if you are going to start touring. before you venture out into the bc you are going to need a beacon, probe, shovel, pack, slope meter, and probably a snow saw as well. along with that you need KNOWLEGE. take some avvy classes, and get out into the BC with people who already have an extensive knowledge of how to analyze snowpack and risk on slopes.

hope all that helps
 
One thing AVOID Naxo touring bindings... i think rossignol and dynastar have rebranded Naxo bindings aswell...

But they are crap and unreliable...
When choosing your touring binding also think whether you are going to do more down than up..
Marker Dukes are very highly rated.
 
this is true. i too have heard that naxo's are less than fantastic. hence why they didnt make my list

but as for dukes, solid binding, but not really a true "touring" binding, cuz they are so damn heavy
 
This is why i made the point of dpends if they want to do more up than down. dukes are great for short hikes as for when you ride down they keep a low profile to the ski so you dont loose as much response as say the fritichi freeride
 
THX for all the information dude, but does the weight of the binding make a lot of difference for the hike up?

or is it that these types of bindings are really heavier then traditionnal bindings so you need to save as much weight as possible?
 
YES, touring is the only part of skiing where weight really matters

if you want lighter than holy hell, get dynafits with touring skis. but, since you didn't know what skins and at bindings were, you're probably pretty new at this, in which case you don't want dynafits as they're for 100% touring. i view it as dukes or dynafits unless you're very light. fritschis don't hold me in inbounds and naxos break so often. i use dukes for sidecountry and dynafits for solid long tours
 
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