Somalia

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What a fucked up country, this is 1992 all over again.

NAIROBI — Famine in parts of southern Somalia has killed tens of thousands of people, mostly children, the United Nations said Wednesday in an official declaration of what aid officials describe as the worst humanitarian crisis in the troubled country in two decades.

The famine declaration comes months after U.N. and other aid agencies began sounding the alarm about a devastating drought in the Horn of Africa, where an estimated 10 million people need help. The crisis has been aggravated by civil strife, the lowest rainfall rates in half a century and sharp increases in food prices.

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“Somalia is facing its worst food security crisis in the last 20 years,” Mark Bowden, the top U.N. official in charge of humanitarian aid to the country, told reporters, adding that $300 million is needed within two months to help alleviate the crisis.

Somalia has grappled with civil war and ineffective governments since 1991, when Mohamed Siad Barre’s regime was toppled. Today, a weak and corrupt transitional government, backed by the United States and its allies, is in place, with little ability to address the famine. Much of its energy is focused on preventing the capital, Mogadishu, from being overtaken by the al-Shabab militia, a group linked to al-Qaeda that seeks to turn the country into an Islamic emirate.

On Wednesday, the United States announced that it would give $28 million in aid to Somalis on top of the more than $431 million in food and other emergency assistance it has provided this year to the eastern Horn of Africa.

But some aid agencies accused the United States and other Western donors of failing to respond to the distress in Somalia quickly enough, despite numerous calls for assistance.

“The crisis has been building for several months, but the response from international donors and regional governments has been mostly slow, inadequate and complacent,” Fran Equiza, the regional director of the British aid agency Oxfam, said in a statement. “There has been a catastrophic breakdown of the world’s collective responsibility to act.”

Equiza said there was still an $800 million shortfall in funding, adding that “by the time the U.N. calls it a famine, it is already a signal of large-scale loss of life.”

In 1992, hundreds of thousands of Somalis starved to death, prompting a U.S.-led peacekeeping force to intervene. Within months, the force was engaged in an intense operation to uproot Somali warlords. It eventually withdrew after 18 American soldiers were killed in a battle the following year, an incident portrayed in the book and movie “Black Hawk Down.”

This time, the famine is unfolding in the southern Somali regions of Bakool and Lower Shabelle, which are largely controlled by al-Shabab. Bowden said that nearly half of Somalia’s 3.7 million people face hunger, malnutrition and other related problems. Of those, 2.8 million live in the south.

“If we don’t act now, famine will spread to all eight regions of southern Somalia within two months, due to poor harvests and infectious diseases,” Bowden said. “We still do not have all the resources for food, clean water, shelter and health services to save the lives of hundreds of thousands of Somalis.”

Famine, said Bowden, is officially declared when acute malnutrition rates among children exceed 30 percent and when more than two people per 10,000 die every day.

Today, malnutrition rates in Somalia are the highest in the world; in some parts of the south, more than half of all children are severely malnourished. In some areas of Bakool and Lower Shabelle, six children per 10,000 younger than 5 are dying every day, Bowden said.

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“In Somalia, 20 years without a central government and the relentless terrorism by al-Shabab against its own people has turned an already severe situation into a dire one that is only expected to get worse,” Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said Wednesday.

Humanitarian funding to help Somalia has declined since 2008, U.N. officials say. The United States, once Somalia’s largest donor, has reduced humanitarian funding by 88 percent, according to a September 2010 report by the U.N. Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs. In 2008, the United States provided $237.4 million. In 2009, it gave $99.6 million; in 2010, roughly $28 million.

This year, the United States has given $78 million, including the $28 million announced Wednesday, U.S. officials said.

The decline in U.S. assistance to Somalia came after the U.S. Office of Foreign Assets Control, concerned about the diversion of aid by Islamist militants, imposed restrictions on agencies working in areas controlled by al-Shabab and froze some funding in March 2009.

U.N. officials are also concerned that Washington’s intensifying targeting of al-Shabab through drone strikes and other means could impede their access to Somalis in famine-stricken areas. “It does complicate our efforts,” Bowden said. “It increases their suspicions of humanitarian organizations.”

Since early 2010, al-Shabab has also prevented aid agencies from delivering assistance to large swaths of Somalia. The militants lifted the ban this month, but Bowden said the United Nations was still having a “dialogue” with them to allow international aid workers to enter famine-afflicted areas.

“Every day of delay in assistance is literally a matter of life or death for children and their families in the famine-affected areas,” Bowden said.

In her statement Wednesday announcing the new U.S. aid, Clinton said the United States remains “cautiously optimistic that al-Shabab will permit unimpeded international assistance in famine-struck areas.”

 
it really is tragic.. but unfortunately this is nothing new. and nothing is going to change any time soon
 
tl;dr and stop copy-pasting things from another site. Just post a link so the other site can get the views. Think of it like internet courtesy.

I may read later tonight though.
 
yup. its so fucked, the rebel groups kill their own people and let those who don't die starve. parts of africa are so screwed up its unbelievable
 
So our country is giving/has given Somalia $450 million? That is absolutely ridiculous. That fact that we are in complete debt combined with the fact that Somalia doesn't have a government, and a good portion of that money will probably end up in the hands of the war lords who are running the country is absurd.
 
the sad truth is that if every country had people who reproduced at the rate that somalians do, we would all be starving do death. They either need to learn how to use condoms, or learn to not have kids when they have no ability to sustain themselves. its mostly the western worlds fault though, teaching the hunter gatherers to start farming on land plagued by droughts, but mainly i just dont have much respect for people who have sex and get pregnant with the knowledge they cannot support or feed a child, let alone 10 children. its literally a lost cause in my opinion
 
i am 30 and i have a decent earning but i still am not wreckless enough to bring a kid into this world that i cant fully support. And if i end up not ever making enough money to have kids, i dont think my genes would be worth spreading anyways... or i could just be another worthless human being and have the government support my kids, but the problem is mirrors, i would have to look at myself in one every once in a while...
 
Yep. The societal and cultural problems in Somalia (Africa) are arguably worsened by the foreign aid they receive. We need to stop helping them altogether.
 
the world is already way overpopulated with humans. Can you imagine if there were a comparably sized mammal to humans that numbered 6 to 7 billion?
 
its estimated that in 50 years, the glaciers feeding the Ganges River will be gone, which means 1/3 of India will have no water for 2/3 of the year. Those same glaciers also are China's main source of water, shits only going to get worse.
 
Meh, we go to help and they kill us and bitch. We don't help they bitch and possibly kill us by taking hostages from boats.

In the end, fuck them.
 
You would think the US would learn to keep their nose out of Somalia after what happen in 1993 at Mogadishu. Nothing good came out of that mess other than a sick movie (Black Hawk Down).
 
you sir, are a dumb fuck.

logically, then food becomes extremely valuable, there will be those who take advantage of the situation. These people are war lords and gangsters. Only a few people take hostages, and if you were in their situation, you would probably do the same. Seriously, Go to hell you ignorant upper middle class piece of shit.
 
What am I missing?

They are keeping their nose out. They're just sending food and economic aid, along with the rest of the developed world to an area that's about to see hundreds of thousands dead
 
You mad?

Explain to me why I should give a shit about a group of people, and mind you not just warlords and gangsters but the general populace to, who decide to KILL THE FUCKING UN PEACKEEPERS, RED CROSS PEOPLE, and relief workers who showed up with food TO HELP THEM! And then they dragged the body of the people they killed through the street to put them on display.

So, once again, fuck them.
 
The humanitarian relief efforts that the US conducted in the early 1990's led to the conflict that they went through with Somalia. The warlords intercepted and stole a ton of the money and other stuff that the United States sent over as an attempt to help Somalia out. All of the aid was in the hands of the wrong people who took it all in an effort to hold power over the civilian population by holding a majority of the money and food in the country.
 
When you say "they" you are referring to an entire population. As far as i know, the killings you are referring to happened in Mogadishu, the capital. Also, if you want to learn more about pirates; Many of them were formerly fishermen, who were suddenly unable to compete with the sudden move from major fishing industries to fish the mostly untouched waters off the coast of Somalia. I understand your frustration, and i agree that it is ridiculous. Logically, chaos ensues after a foreign power, that local war lords consider a threat, takes control of an area.

PS: read my comments, all i pointed out was that you are an ignorant ass hole who clearly does not understand how complex the situation really is and generalizes an entire country's population into one degrading category. I never said that i agree with aid to somalia, or that i dissagree, all i said was that you are stupid.
 
You know this how?

'They' could be referring to the pirates

'They' could be referring to the people in power

'They' could be referring to the groups that fought the Rangers, SEALs, Marines, and Delta guys in 1993

Stop being a fucking twit. I am sorry but they, being the people in power, are fucking assholes and frankly you can't just drop shit in the middle of nowhere to give it to the people that aren't fuckheads cause shit doesn't work that way.

So once again, fuck that area of the world.
 
You know this how?

'They' could be referring to the pirates

'They' could be referring to the people in power

'They' could be referring to the groups that fought the Rangers, SEALs, Marines, and Delta guys in 1993

Stop being a fucking twit. I am sorry but they, being the people in power, are fucking assholes and frankly you can't just drop shit in the middle of nowhere to give it to the people that aren't fuckheads cause shit doesn't work that way.

So once again, fuck that area of the world.
 
Well, maybe you were not referring to an entire population with "they", but in any case you did not explain this. Anyway, if this was how you wanted to express the word "they" then you should have elaborated.

"fuck that area of the world" is what you just said. right after listing possible meanings for "they". "I am sorry but they, being in power are fucking assholes". In this instance, you are referring to a vague, powerful group, which could be one of many in the region. I assume in this instance you are referring to muslim extremeists in Mogadishu. But then again, you could be referring to "the people in the war", which would include thousands people literally living in shit, who did not want to get involved. So unless you are grammatically retarded, then you have made it very clear what you mean.
 
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the worst part of it is that most of the money and aid, mostly aid, has just gone to the rebel groups or corrupt gov'ts in africa. they'd rather watch food aid rot than give it to the people that need it. its disgusting.
 
Its beyond rediculous we help them at this point. They cant live off aid forever. $450 million is way to much money to be giving away considering the debt situation we are in. The only way africa is going to sort itself out is to let them figure it out on their own, regardless of how it is done
 
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